Anormal resist on etheral fiend

[ppRaistlin]

<div>Hi,</div><div>I went to kill Varsonn yesterday night (lvl 34) and the last wave before him was the Etheral Fiend (34+++). And then I have lived my longuest serie of resists of my short coercer carreer <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div>Every mez and stun were resisted. I have read that the fiend was immune to mental and heat damage but the spells i casted were not mental DAMAGE.</div><div>Is there a thing that i have missed herer ? Doest total magic (damage and other) resistance exists ? Is there the case here (if you remenber of course) ? If that s the case what am i supposed to do ?</div><div> </div><div>Thanks for your response</div><div>Take Care</div><div>Frustated Varsoon coercer</div>

[Pins]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>ppRaistlin wrote:<div>Hi,</div><div>I went to kill Varsonn yesterday night (lvl 34) and the last wave before him was the Etheral Fiend (34+++). And then I have lived my longuest serie of resists of my short coercer carreer <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div>Every mez and stun were resisted. I have read that the fiend was immune to mental and heat damage but the spells i casted were not mental DAMAGE.</div><div>Is there a thing that i have missed herer ? Doest total magic (damage and other) resistance exists ? Is there the case here (if you remenber of course) ? If that s the case what am i supposed to do ?</div><div> </div><div>Thanks for your response</div><div>Take Care</div><div>Frustated Varsoon coercer</div><hr></blockquote>They may not do mental damage, however they use mental resist check to attack him, so that is why you are getting so many resists.

[ppRaistlin]

<div></div><p>So total immunity on mental spell may exist ?</p><p>Does any totems or whatever exist to lower this resist?</p><p>Does INT decrease lower this immunity ?</p><p>Thanks</p>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<div>They aren't immune... they have insanely HIGH resists though.</div><div> </div><div>I haven't tried with my coercer, but my Dirge has some mental attacks and was having trouble even though she was green.</div><div> </div><div>However, when my wife landed her massive resist debuff on it (that wasn't mental based), I was able to hit every once in a while. Get a couple debuffers and you might be able to land every blow.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Get a brigand with you that has their vicious rake upgrades... landing a melee based 1500 resist debuff will certainly help your cause. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div>

[ppRaistlin]

<div><p>oh... I see the light at the of the tunnel... thanks Raidi <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Does someone knows some powerful mental debuff tools ?</p></div>

[kerryne]

<div>i think you should have a mental debuff at that level</div><div>also if you get an int hex doll, the spell you cast with that is a mental debuff.  looooong cast though...so you probably want to pull the mob with it so it's not whacking on you while you're casting</div>

[Raidi Sovin'faile]

<div></div><p>Yeah.. the only problem with our mental debuffs (we get two, one all resists, the other mental, magic and divine) is that they seem to be mental based... so before we can land our mental debuff, they resist it. Flawed concept if you ask me.. at the very least it should have a higher than normal chance of landing (now that we can see that percentage).</p><p>It's nice when grouped with others that have different resist based debuffs. Get a healer witha  divine based all-resists debuff (inquisitors i think?). Brigands and Swashy's have a physical based debuff. I know for a fact that brigand's debuff is humassive, and they get a couple by end game.</p><p>The hexx doll is a good replacement, in that you can land that and hopefully land your own debuff because of it. Start the chain reaction. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p>

[ppRaistlin]

<div></div><p>Thanks for your responses.</p><p>We have tried the fight several times yesterday night. Well 7 or 8 times in fact. Let me explain the situation.</p><p>We are duo. One brawler and me coercer. Both lvl 34. The etheral Fiend is lvl 34 +++ so con white.</p><p>We have beaten way <strong>apparently </strong>harder and way higher in lvl mob with this duo but everything is changed by this f*****g mental resistance.</p><p>Note that i say resistance and not immunity now because I was able to land some mental based spells. Here are the empiric things I have noted during this fight (I have an Hex Doll +6 INT - 385 (almost) for all resistance and a debuff master I (scarred Psyche) -580 Mental</p><p>- The Hex Doll land rarely at the begininng => Mental Based ?</p><p>-The Scarred Psyche is based on mental (dumb imo) and is highly resisted</p><p>- At the beginning of the combat everithing is very resisted. In the middle (30 or 40 sec), if you can lan a debuff, you begin to land some mez (1/5) and Stun (1/5). The first minutes are the hardest (hit the tank for 900 in the first 15 sec if not avoided)</p><p>In fact, if we want to have a chance, we have to open fight with Scarred Psyche. If it land I may land other spells more often like the Hex Doll or even mez or stun. We have to keep the two debuff (hex doll and scarred psyche) on during the entire fight. On this, depends the resist of all stun and mez. It s a very hard combat for a duo with a coercer but I have the feeling that 4 or 5 more tries and we will win (but this win will be based on luck..so not very interesting in term of strategy)</p><p>My only hope is that Varsonn is resistant to all styled except mental because it will be real pain <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Anyways i m kind of happy that total immunity is not applicated here.</p>

[kerryne]

<div></div><p>i know at my level, the psyche line lands very easily most of the time even though it is mental based when i'm getting a lot of resists.  i also try to land the int debuff + power regen for group but it doesn't land quite so often.  hex dolls are about a 50-50 chance of landing...but i'm not the same level as you are.  it sounds, though, that the same resists happen to you as they do to me.</p><p>try to land psyche first, then go right off with a reactive...in this case, i wouldn't use mezz because it would eat up your debuff time and as soon as the mob is attacked the mezz breaks sooo...just do your best to try and kill it without pulling hate off your buddy.</p>

[Mandelbro]

<div></div>Varsoon is a pussycat compared to the fiend.  Just keep silence on him and keep him stunned when he's not silenced.  He'll hit like a wet noodle and drop quickly.