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Ol'b
05-03-2005, 02:33 PM
<DIV>Well i was so happy with myself for writing more than a few sentinces i figured i would post it as a thread.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>You can certianly classifly me as one of those people that complain .. I have said many things like "coercer sucks" or "dead class" and for good reason. You may disagree with my coercer opinions and thats fine, but..... Crying can work! It has already for wizzy's & Illusionest.... Believe me when i say , wizzy/warlock  definetly should be some of the best DPS in game .. Second or equal to assassins should be there place if u ask me.. Assassins are a little weak in DPS right now and offer harly any group utility but thats another story (and no i dont play an assassin)..  The problem is we dont have a very large player base ...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> Here is an example for you , before SOE nerfed minds eye we were the best power regen class in game.. I think once the first illusionest cought wind of this it took soe all of about a month to "correct" the problem .. Now not only are Illusionests the best power regeners but they are also, better mezzers, do the same amount of dps when you account for coercer lack of AOE dmg.. Not to mention that now i cant even invis my group.. I was using an exploit to invis my whole group for quite some time but i bet an illusionest soiled the beans =p .  My point here is with the amount of Illusionest playing game +  the fact they represent "the good side" aka sonys primary concern = will always be a better class to play.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>WizzyWarlock were very comparable to enchanters , BEFORE they got a huge DPS upgrade.. Now it's simply not even an argument and  im ok with that, but.. The only reason i say that is because i play a warlock also. Solution is simple , you have to make enchanters uber , there needs to be more of them around... I mean COME ON they were super uber in eq1 for a reason! Almost every group had one, simmilar to healers.. Very few people want to just make sure everyone is breezed , mezz here debuff/stile there ..... YOU need to reward these classes for being buff bots , not punish ( cough* our level 50 spells SUCK! , a slap in the face i like to call'em) yes i know you can now use ae stun with ae mezz, got it thanks...  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV></DIV> <P>A few things I want to add , Your voice as coercers is heard by SOE on these very forums... I know this due to the fact that i have recieved replys to "cool down" or "watch my language agian or im gone"  from these boards. So they are listening , and changes will come but im sure you can draw your own comclusions as to what enchanter class will be best in the long haul.. That is what it's all about , right ? The long haul ... That is why i spend time reading all these posts and replying when i have the time. I am working on my 4th and 5th toon to 50 so i typically post just a few lines, but lets get serious. Since the sorc. dps upgrade and minds eye nerf + invis exploit fixed , too much poop has been shovled in coercers faces for far too long.. </P> <P>It's simply amazing to me at times some of the upgrades my classes have recieved over the course of eq2.. Its really funny , i mean some spells on my Warlock that i get and im thinking to myself this is just unnecessary , i dont need another DD right now on its own timer , with a stun to boot. Or issues i had with spells and such on any class other than coercer have been fixed and tweaked a few times over now and quickly , while soo many coercer issues went left alone for the longest time and some still exist. </P> <P> Ohh yeah and all you people leveling up coercers for Withering Silence , dont bother .. I used it on a raid mob today and no longer works , at least on one i had been using it on for a month or so .. You can still cast it but his aoe was ripping thru our group even while he was stifled..</P> <DIV>Im sure your prolly reading this Mr.T and i like the joy i can sense in your posts about your 37 warlock , you pushed the envelope as a coercer and you seem to be doing the same with your warlock.   Good for you...</DIV>

Tanatus
05-03-2005, 06:45 PM
<DIV>So to speak disbalance in CC capability between Illusionist and Coercer been fixed and now its really hard to say who is better.... imo coercer have slight edge (due to superior AE mez). My warlock already lvl 39 btw <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV>I have compared head to head warlock to coercer and guess what untill up to low 30s both classes goes almost head to head.. Only at lvl 30 warlock getting second serious nuke on independed timer... At lvl 37 hell brake lose - ND along add 80+DPS that's the turning point... Before lvl 37 coercer if he push hard can probably clock 66-75% of warlock DPS... Problem is that coercer hit cap of damage at lvl 37 and by lvl 50 damage do not increase at all... sorcs are triple damage that do at 37 by lvl 50... </DIV> <DIV>There is 1 thing that keep me in a good mode... SOE always fix most gimped classes into something jawfalling ... atm most gimped class is coercer so go figure</DIV>

Zephyrus1
05-03-2005, 11:28 PM
<DIV>One of my biggest disappointments so far in the class balances, is that so many other classes get better stuns, stifles, power drains than we do, and theirs also usually provide a nice big shot of damage.  With our lacking the damage components, it would be nice if they were more effective and worked on epic mobs.</DIV>