Master vs adept: Lets start a thread!

[Vlaven]

<DIV>I would like if people could post their master spell image so we could start seeing what is worth to upgrade.  For best results, please also post the level of the coercer taking the screen shot...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Here a few of mine :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer Ignore (App 2)</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/ignore%20apprentice.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer ignore Master</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/ignore%20master.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer eerie focus adept 1</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/eerie%20focus%20adept.JPG"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer eerie focus master</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/eerie%20focus%20master.JPG"></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer annoying demeanor adept 1</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/annoying%20demeanor%20adept.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer annoying demeanor master</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/annoying%20demeanor%20master.jpg"></DIV></DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer muddled thinking adept 1</DIV> <DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/muddled%20thinking%20adept.jpg"></DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer muddled thinking master</DIV> <DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/muddled%20thinking%20master.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer enthrall adept 1</DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/enthrall%20adept.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Lvl 44 coercer enthrall master</DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/enthrall%20master.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As you can see enthrall does NOTHING.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vlav Tox server</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Vlaven on <SPAN class=date_text>03-03-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:39 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Vlaven on <span class=date_text>03-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:01 AM</span>

[Severi]

Where did you get Enthrall Master I and how are you seeing those details like does X damage? I examined my spell books before I scribed them yesterday and could not see that detail.Sev

[Vlaven]

<DIV>1)Entrhall came from deathfish citadel named</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) Right click on a spell (only one thta you have scribed) and select examine</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vlav Tox server</DIV>

[Severi]

I got withering silence master 1 off of the emperor in that zone two nights ago I wonder if he also drops enthrall. Was he the mob do you know?Sev

[Tanatus]

<DIV>I have 4 masters</DIV> <DIV>Binding Light - in time it was no better then Adept 1 - same problem it was brakes from first tic of dots... </DIV> <DIV>Muddled Thinking Master 1 - awesome spell - still my secondary nuke 76 power 190-233 damage vs. Seizure Adept 1 101 power 194-237 damage</DIV> <DIV>Withering Silence Master 1 - well not bad - stick rather well on raid targets - dont stifle but do drain still requied Ravage Psyche land first before it would stick</DIV> <DIV>Devouring Toughts Master 1 - well ... 47 power/4.8s to group .... apperently same as Apprentice 1 funny part that Belkor Mind Gorge have 44 power/4.8s</DIV>

[bouncer]

<DIV>do the adepts/ masters not increase the lvl range of mob that if can affect?  Like the ignore spell has up to lvl 44, as opposed to lvl 40 effectiveness, would enthrall not incrase the maximum lvl mob it can affect?</DIV><p>Message Edited by bouncerad on <span class=date_text>03-08-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:30 PM</span>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>No its not </DIV> <DIV>Master 1 Mesmerize still wont work above lvl 41 mob ... much like Apprentice 1 Mesmerize</DIV>

[bouncer]

<DIV>bah, then that really isn't that great then :smileymad:</DIV>

[Vlaven]

<P>Adding a few spells. All pictures from a lvl 48 coercer</P> <P><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/disregard.JPG"></P> <P><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/haruspex.jpg"></P> <P><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/tyrannical.JPG"></P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vlav Tox server</DIV>

[robm6]

[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] man, how the hell you gettin all those Masters? I haven't seen *one* master coercer spell yet and Im almost lvl 50.  Actually, i've only seen 2 master skills drop period.

[Tanatus]

<DIV>I seen a lot of Masters drops of Named Broker in LongShadow Valley and Named Fence in East Freeport - try camp em ....- both as soloable</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S. Interesting Tyr Mind at M1 do 737 vs. A3 647</DIV>

[Gilbert]

<P>I don't have the App/Adept comparison but here's the Master spells:</P> <P><IMG src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/juicepod/EQ2_01.jpg"></P> <DIV><IMG src="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y77/juicepod/EQ2_02.jpg"></DIV>

[Motl]

<DIV><IMG src="http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0VAAAAKYaZ5ZgHUEcHPBl8kIJ1RqYmbYb2TtRouxD8v4FeLTcC k*LujwgLPfZtGyKDn8FHlClHq0HcHwdcipbB1yrc!rD2al0ozj nrQd5yGKVox6LPTJClekapjb4HFqH/ReekOfTerrorMaster1.jpg?dc=4675516994938308143"><IMG src="http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0UQCz*1sZ6S1gHUEcHPBl8sIweUgICgm7SjW1D6iCrdBgRBcec 3WHRRMClYeakHn6iiRqlxmMvdhf84YjNLVSBDuvmyA9TWqlK*O d2fD7tUOo9GKpPu*rZ*98a5SnTDeb/ReekOfTerrorApp1.jpg?dc=4675516994935249171"></DIV>

[Vlaven]

<DIV>AT lvl 50</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/velocity.JPG"></DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>Got Master 1 Despair cost 117 power reduce magic/arcane mitingation -1296 damage per tic 108-134</DIV> <DIV>Compare to Adept 3 Despair  111 power reduce magic/arcane mitingation - 1205 damage per tic 88-108</DIV>