Liskias grievous Quietude

[Vlaven]

<DIV><IMG src="http://pages.infinit.net/ouch/EQ2.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I chose that over mind gorge at lvl 40 and I am very happy.  A few things that motivated my choice :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1)  Faster recast then mind gorge</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) Skill cap at 250 so I can safely ( I assume sinc ei am lvl 43) use untill I am 50</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now can anyone post an agonizing silence picture?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Vlav Tox server</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Vlaven on <SPAN class=date_text>02-24-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>09:25 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Vlaven on <span class=date_text>02-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:26 AM</span>

[outputrotati]

<DIV>It's a way good spell.  I use stifle on just about all of the mages and healer mobs.  Great combo with erudite aura sense.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've also tried it on group x2 mobs and noticed it landed.  It also seems to land on group x3.  Haven't yet tried it on group x4.</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>As a dot its much weaker then Mind Gorge because it do 3 tic and Mind Gorge do 5 tic (damage per tic and upon impact I beleive same). </DIV> <DIV>If its lands on X3 group mobs then it will lands on X4 group too - this is HUGE plus</DIV> <DIV>I have Withering Silence Master 1 it drain a bit more power per tic (32-39 or so) from target but in sence this spell is Adept 2 Withering Silence with DoT attached to it</DIV> <DIV>Mind Gorge on other hand drop group power tap and up untill lvl 49 Mind Gogre was better power tap then Master 1 Devouring Tought</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>About Agonizing Silence - spell dont have any DoT attached to it, it drain more power then Liskia but have HUGE drawback it cannt be casted on any +++ type mobs</DIV>

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<DIV>Can agonizing silence be cast on ^^^ mobs when it's adept 3?</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>It can not even at Master 1 ... its nature of spell</DIV> <DIV>Withering Silence can be landed on +++ mob even at Apprentice 1</DIV> <DIV>Angonizing Silence cannt be landed on +++ mob even at Master 1</DIV>

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<DIV>that sucks</DIV>

[Ramir]

<DIV>A few notes:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1. Besklar's Mind Gorge restores less power to group at 50 than Adept III Devouring Thoughts.  However, it stacks with Devouring Thoughts (although they share the same timer).  So if you've got a multi-Coercer raid, you really want one person to be using Mind Gorge and another to be using Devouring.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. The haste ability is not only better than standard Coercer haste, it stacks.  In addition, it stacks with the same Coercer.  Now, I will not assert that the <STRONG>effect</STRONG> stacks, only that the icons stack.  It remains to be seen if the two abilities together allow for enormous amounts of haste.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3. Liskia's has a higher overall damage than Besklar's for the simple reason it refreshes more often, even though its duration is less.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4. Liskia's and Withering both work against ^^^ targets.  However, if you look carefully, you'll realize they don't actually <STRONG>stifle</STRONG> those targets.  They merely power drain them.  The stifle portion of the spell is simply ignored.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Blub]

<b>I use stifle on just about all of the mages and healer mobs.</b>Hmm I just wonder, why would you use it only on healers and mages-type mobs? It works on all mobs and greatly reduces the damage which a fighter mob can inflict (since he wont use most of this special attacks anymore).<p>Message Edited by Blubby on <span class=date_text>02-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:48 AM</span>

[Gilbert]

<DIV>Based on what you know now what would you suggest to pick? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mind Gorge or Liskias?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mind Gorge sounds like a nice utility spell to keep everyone's power going, but when it comes down to +++ or ++++ mobs it's really nice to be able to drop the power drains and make the encounter simple.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm leaning toward Liskias unless they change agonizing silence.</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>You can hit +++ X3  and X4 with Devouring toughts line and Mind Gorge as part of this line.</DIV> <DIV>Each trait have own merit bear in mind you get Mind Gorge at lvl 40 then you dont have Clarity, Mind Eye and Devouring Toughts - thus having this mana tap that attached to DoT (and it drain hell a lot more then Consuming Toughts almost as much as Master 1 Devouring Toughts at lvl 49 MG 43power/4.8s DT 49power/4.8s) help you and your group recover mana much much faster within combat</DIV>

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<DIV>Stifle works on other mobs besides casters?  F-bomb.  I didn't know that.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>