All lvl 27.6+ coercers

[Dranlin19]

The stun you get from your lvl 20 training is linked to the reset of unnerving stare, so basicly is worthless if you have it. So don't make the same mistake I did and take it thinking you would have 2 stuns. Im sure the mezz is liked to mesmerize as well which makes it pretty worthless as well. Id take the root nuke since Despotic mind and muddled thinking's resets are also now linked, but ego strike is not.Really wish SoE would have said something about this before we made our choices, would have made my selection different.On a side note, the extended duration breeze ROCKS!!!

[Gnus]

Pretty worthles... but not completly... .the reason is the duration is longer.. The mes ability lasts for 50 seconds where the mes spell lasts for 40s. I would imagine the stun is longer too...

[Dranlin19]

Also for the lvl 10 trianing I chose the buff and didnt even get an icon, in the process of a petition right now.

[Wikod]

<DIV>add the lvl 20 mez to that list of same timer waste of a pick lol</DIV>

[Wikod]

<DIV>How where you able to get extended breeze?</DIV>

[Sweetwat]

<DIV>This is a quote from today's patch notes (1/6/05):</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Training allows you to choose one of four new abilities. Each of these spells or arts builds off abilities you've been using but substantially increases their effectiveness and benefit."<BR></DIV> <DIV>     It doesn't say anything about getting new or extra spells or abilities.  Why would they award us enchanters with an additional mez or an extra stun spell?  That wouldn't be balanced at all.  The note clearly says "builds off abilities you've been using."   The "substantially increasing their effectiveness" part may be argued.   But if we can get an extra 10 seconds out of our mezes, or added time to our stuns, or power regens, that's great.  I look at it as a free gift that I didn't need to already be effective in my class and i like the idea of a little customization.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Wikod]

<DIV>As we all know with ae mez being useless and a single target mez with a 9 sec recast time is hardly worth it we are quickly being replaced in groups for more dps since we have no main function and groups have learned that cc isnt a big deal in eq2 I was hoping for a little break but it doesnt matter to much im currently not playing my coercer anyway (I was hoping this would give me a reason to play him again and make the class a bit more worth playing). </DIV>

[AuroriaPurehea]

<DIV>Wouldn't a longer lasting mez be a good choice here?  If it's 10 sec longer than Mesmerize that means you can keep one additional mob mezzed (9sec recast timer).  </DIV>

[Orki who Pos]

<DIV>Its not a biggie, if you need to mez more than 2 mobs anyway, you should most likely be doing AE damage instead</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>Nah its not worthless...</DIV> <DIV>Read the discription</DIV> <DIV>..... Coercer trained in this skill gain ability extend impairment ...</DIV> <DIV>That mean spell MEANT to replace Unnerving Stare  - stare at adep 1 is 15s duration stun ... other stun should have longer duration....</DIV> <DIV>Same goes for mesmerization .... spell meant to replace your orignial spell because it have longer duration</DIV>

[Aoi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanatus wrote:<BR> <DIV>Nah its not worthless...</DIV> <DIV>Read the discription</DIV> <DIV>..... Coercer trained in this skill gain ability extend impairment ...</DIV> <DIV>That mean spell MEANT to replace Unnerving Stare  - stare at adep 1 is 15s duration stun ... other stun should have longer duration....</DIV> <DIV>Same goes for mesmerization .... spell meant to replace your orignial spell because it have longer duration</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Yep, new mes is on same timer, but at level 31 has an approx 50 sec duration.  It does, however, have a lower level max than mesmerise.  There were several mobs in Runnyeye I could not mes with reverie, but could with mesmerise.</P> <P>I don't think its necessarily a replacement 100% of the time, but an extra 10-15 secs is more than you may think when you CAN use it.</P> <P>Cyene</P>

[ganthornrodsu]

its an upgrade to fascinate no mesmerize it ups the level of fascinate to about 35 and soon it should be unlinked to mesmerize but not fascinate so it should be useful to have a 2nd mes for longer

[Dranlin19]

<blockquote><hr>Tanatus wrote:<DIV>Nah its not worthless...</DIV><DIV>Read the discription</DIV><DIV>..... Coercer trained in this skill gain ability extend impairment ...</DIV><DIV>That mean spell MEANT to replace Unnerving Stare - stare at adep 1 is 15s duration stun ... other stun should have longer duration....</DIV><DIV>Same goes for mesmerization .... spell meant to replace your orignial spell because it have longer duration</DIV><hr></blockquote>Its not a replacement for unnerving stare, it cons blue and drains less power... However would have been great to have at lvl 20. Because there was a couple lvls that I couldn't land daunting gaze on anything worth killing.At the time when I got it (lvl 31) it made it worthless and I wish I had chosen the root nuke instead. That might not be the case for someone at lvl 20 getting it when they are supposed to get it. I was just putting a warning out to all other coercers that had gotten unnerving stare that this ability was not worth getting thats all.