Are we a little bit NERFED ?????

[Dekka]

<DIV>I'm level 18 atm and going to be a Coercer soon...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm takin a look on spells and i found that we take CHARM at level 37!!!!! :smileymad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We are mage but...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We have less Spells DPS of a WIZARD :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>We do not have a Pet :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>and...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>We CANNOT CHARM MOBS ???????????  :smileymad::smileymad::smileymad:</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This sound a little bit fantastic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>a Coercer cannot coerce any mobs.... :smileysurprised:</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Dekkard on <span class=date_text>11-26-2004</span> <span class=time_text>02:47 AM</span>

[Zaber]

<DIV>Not to worrie , i am at 22 and I have plenty of spells for crown control.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2 different Mezz , 2 different Stun and 1 stifle :smileytongue:</DIV> <DIV>If you do your job well the groups will love you .</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Dekka]

<DIV>Group importance is sure understanded :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We have Haste and Breeze to donate and sure Mezz/Stun...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But where is the Soloist opportunity ?????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and WHY WE DO NOT HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO CHARM ????</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Coercer is a word that's means "Someone that force someone else to do something" :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Azmode]

<DIV>I can solo just as well as any other Mage.  Root and Rot is your friend.  Oh and did I mention we have less downtime too!!</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>Nah we solo just fine - learn kiting my friend , we have zero downtime at soloing as been already said too</DIV> <DIV>At lvl 22 I can solo skeletons and bears in Nektulos all day long w/o risk of death. Root- stack all dots and med in peace while mob rotting - once root broken - reroot if you fail hit HO and proceed with dauting gaze and hit mob with mind Jolt after ward then reroot you will have plenty time for that. Anyway soloing is simple like 1-2 - only problem you need you spells at Apprentice 3 or better</DIV>

[Degas]

<DIV>I don't think our spells are nerfed.  What needs fixing is the Very Light Armor quest reward system and loot drop system.  You don't see any other class running around at Level 22 still wearing armor they got at level 10.  There's only so much you can do with Jewelry and buffs to increase your AC and resistances.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And level 20 tailors can't make a damned thing that level 20 mage class would wear.  That also needs to be fixed.</DIV>

[Ry]

<DIV>I have to agree with the armor quest statement. It's not worth it. Even though I am evil I am hunting in the Crypt of Betrayal with some friends and at 21 I am getting drops that are way better than the stats on our class quest. I am not going to waste the time doing the quests.</DIV>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>Mmmm have you tried lvl 20 coercers armor quest? I am not sure what drops you are talking about but quest armor averaging + 15-20 power +15-20 health +50-90 resistance in 2-3 area +4-6 to primary stats +2-3 to secondary stats +30-50AC per piece of gear. Quest have 6 steps - glove, bracer, boots (boots of Malice from FG quest just a tiny better imo), Mantle, Pants and Robe. Then quest finished your resistance in every area should be 200-250+ primary stats probably boosted +20-30 +100-200 power +100-200 health.</DIV> <DIV>The only thing that is missing is head gear. Agate jewels can cover you in terms of rings/earring/bracers/necklaces (they are WAY superior over things that drops in tier 3). Nice belt drops of named beaver in Nektulos.</DIV> <DIV>P.S. But I do agree that quests for armor for evils A LOT harder then for goodie</DIV> <DIV>Mondor lvl 23.6 coercer/lvl 19 scholar (jeweler soon)</DIV>

[Jaggid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dekkard wrote:<BR> <DIV>I'm level 18 atm and going to be a Coercer soon...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm takin a look on spells and i found that we take CHARM at level 37!!!!! :smileymad:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We are mage but...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We have less Spells DPS of a WIZARD :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>We do not have a Pet :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>and...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>We CANNOT CHARM MOBS ???????????  :smileymad::smileymad::smileymad:</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This sound a little bit fantastic</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG>a Coercer cannot coerce any mobs.... :smileysurprised:</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by Dekkard on <SPAN class=date_text>11-26-2004</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>02:47 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> What are you talking about?  You get tanks!!!!! :smileymad:  Seriously, if you want a tank to do something, just threaten to leave, they will comply.  :smileyvery-happy:

[Tanyla]

<DIV>Actually .... there are armor quests in Fallen Gate for evils from items that drop form mobs.  Much of it was orange at lvl 19 and is right up there with the coercer quest armor  in stats,  just a lil change here and there as to what stats.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would post the stats  .... lol but the peices I had gotten JUST got replaced with my quest stuff.</DIV> <DIV>(items  in the bank, so next time if i remember will jot them down)</DIV><p>Message Edited by Tanyla on <span class=date_text>12-02-2004</span> <span class=time_text>04:19 AM</span>

[Tanatus]

<DIV>Not much item actually directly quested from FG</DIV> <DIV>Scorched wooden staff .... I personally like Academy Staff of Coercion more</DIV> <DIV>Boots of Malice - yes those are better then Armor 20 quest part 3 imo (a little more power, life and a bit more MR)</DIV> <DIV>Cap of Malice - yes great piece of gear very uncommon thou</DIV> <DIV>If I am not mistaken of contructs and deeper you can get ring and neck piece that need to be upgraded in same way like it was with staff, boots, cap</DIV> <DIV>P.S. Speaking about resistance at lvl 24</DIV> <DIV>I have 520 Mental, 300+ Magic, Divine, 200+ Cold, Poison and only Heat and Disease are below 200 (150s or so)</DIV>

[Ol'b]

<DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV>Not to worrie , i am at 22 and I have plenty of spells for crown control.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2 different Mezz , 2 different Stun and 1 stifle <IMG height=16 src="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif" width=16 border=0></DIV> <DIV>If you do your job well the groups will love you .</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Lol don't worry soon you will only have 1 Mezz...  Since all the mobs that give decent xp you wont be able to mezz with yer lower lvl spell, and Mezmerize takes forever to recast.. Ohhh btw you have no AOE mezz , the you get is worthless and requires a thoughtstone =p</P>

[clar]

<DIV>coercers are awesome... use your skills the right way not the name way or for gods sake not the eq1 way...</DIV> <DIV>i say we are the best.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>the consuming thoughts spell line we get at 32 is GREAT!!!!.. just u wait.. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[tob]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> clarah wrote:<BR> <DIV>coercers are awesome... use your skills the right way not the name way or for gods sake not the eq1 way...</DIV> <DIV>i say we are the best.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>agree Clarah ,  people still tend to compare the classes to EQ1 classes ,  BIG mistake</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if you find yourself playing a useless class as a chanter,  YOU are either doing something wrong , or just to stupid to keep track of a multi purpose class</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>sorry about the namecalling ,  but its a fact , Chanters make a really big difference in a grp  ,  if you know what you are doing</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and on that not,  a stupid chanter can have the opposite effect on a grp and make things really iffy , really fast</DIV>

[Drizim]

The only thing I wish they would do is add another Mezz spell ...you get a single target mezz at 22 named Mezmerize then you get a AE mezz spell at 25 (which I rarely use because you cant move while its casted) then the next mezz spell is at 38 called enthrall. Thats a long time between single target mezz spells (22 to 3<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and im level 34 right now and alot of mobs I encounter resist Mezmerize.