Perpetuality

[Lolthinae]

<DIV>So often when we talk about illusionist DPS I see people say, go for perpetuality and see the amazing speed with which we can cast, and the amazing DPS we therefore can do. True we can cast at an amazing speed with perpetuality - and run out of things to cast even faster ;p</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My problem is not the casting speed, it's the recast duration. With chronosiphoning (rank <img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> and chronology (rank 5) I cast 39% faster than "base value", and with only that I already run out of things to cast before recast timers are up again. And by that I mean that I run out of nukes, dots, buffs, debuffs, powerdrains, and anything else that might do damage or trigger a damage proc. Into this mix I freely toss stuns, daze, and stifles when dealing with trash mobs on raids, but tend to keep these for an emergency on named. Even when using these, I still find that I'm looking at my spellbar for seconds on end, and have nothing left to cast.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So, I simply fail to understand how perpetuality can help me do more DPS.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is there something here I have missed? Something I have misunderstood?</DIV>

[Manyak]

<DIV>Do the following:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- get cheldrak's ring for 5% reuse timer reduction</DIV> <DIV>- get all the proc gear u can (ring of supremacy, breath of the destroyer, bracelet of thule, etc)</DIV> <DIV>- get at least the shimmering beam, brainburst, prismatic chaos, and synergism AAs from the Illusionist tree</DIV> <DIV>- cast shimmering beam between all spells</DIV> <DIV>- recast brainburst only after it terminates</DIV> <DIV>- give priority to prismatic chaos and solar shower when they are up, make sure u cast them even if u have to skip a shim beam somewhere in the cycle</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i promise u wont be able to keep up with recast timers, and ull do MAX dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>then u can put a wizard and troubador in your group and get them to cast frigid gift and precision of the maestro whenever they are up, cuz with that spell haste ull get crazy amounts of procs from those.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but of course, if u cant get the proc gear stick with max crits.</DIV>

[Banditman]

Now for some more realistic gear suggestions:1.  Mystical Orb of the Invoker - Collection quest.2.  Grizfazzles Walking Stick - Heroic quest in Bonemire.3.  Bone-Clasped Girdle - Heritage quest.  Requires crafting, but with the commission system there is no need for you to actually do it yourself.4.  X'haviz Gown of Glory - drops off boss mob in Nest of the Great Egg.  Might take a few runs for it to drop.5.  Cloak of the Burning Prince - Diety quested, Solusek Ro.None of that requires any raiding to aquire.Don't forget about Adornments!  You can add quite a bit of INT through Adornments as well as +damage to specific damage types.There are Legendary Adornments to add +45 to all Mental based spells.  There are Fabled Adornments that add +25 to an entire damage type . . . Arcane for instance which adds +25 to Magic, Mental and Divine.  There are Adornments which add +25 to all spell damage types.When you start using cast haste like this, it's all about patterns imo.  You simply have to learn a pattern of spells that works for you.  It takes time, and the best mobs for working on this are raid mobs.  They last long enough for the patterns to extend beyond 10 spells or so.<div></div>

[Lolthinae]

<DIV>Thanks for the replies. I actually have most of the proc items listed by DaMutation (and a few that are not), but my question wasn't really about DPS or proc gear, it was a about the usefulness of perpetuality. I started out with perpetuality, but respecced months ago, the main reason being that all it did was extend the period when I had nothing left to cast. Since then, I still regularly run out of things to cast, and I just hate sitting there, doing nothing but wwaiting for my spells to refresh. Thus my question.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't know if this has changed with the new AAs, I still only have 83, but I'm gonna give it a try (I still have some cheap respecs left), but my feeling is that the change isn't great. I may be wrong.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And I'm not talking groups or solo play here, I know that perpetuality can add a huge amount of DPS to short fights, I'm talking about raiding and boss mobs that take 5 mins or more to kill - when I cast and cast and cast and cast again, and then for a bit have nothing left to cast, rinse and repeat :smileywink:</DIV>

[Stumpwater28]

<DIV>So here is what I do. I seriously never run out of spells to cast ever.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I run this feel free to mix up, this is what I do most of the time though on a single target mob (the *X = Perpetuity state) and I am using the relic ablosh hope):</DIV> <OL> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam *1</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Chronosiponing *2</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Prismatic Chaos *3</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Abolish Hope *4</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Brain Burst *5</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam *5 and you will stay this way. </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Ultra Violent Storm </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Savante </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Solar Shower </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Devastating Gazes </FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Prismatic Chaos</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Ultra Violent Storm</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Abolish Hope</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Brain Burst</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Extract Essence</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Tribulation</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Ultra Violent Storm</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Prismatic Chaos</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Tumor</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Solar Shower</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Devastating Gazes</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Abolish Hope</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Brain Burst</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Ultra Violent Storm</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Tribulation</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Savante</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Chronosiponing</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Extract Essence</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Prismatic Chaos</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Abolish Hope</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Brain burst</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Devastating Gazes</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Shimmering Beam</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Ultra Violent Storm</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Tumor</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Reapply Tribulation</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Solar Shower</FONT></LI> <LI><FONT size=3><FONT color=#000000><FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT color=#ffffff><SPAN> </SPAN>… keep it going like this.</FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></LI></OL> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>While that tactic may not be the exact highest DPS of them all, it is a very good mix of keeping mana up on your and your group.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3></FONT> </P> <P><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#ffffff size=3>Remember a few things:</FONT></P> <OL> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>If you are in a group of five or more Momentary sentiment is going to put you at *5 right away. </FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>You are going to use a huge amount of mana whith perpetualty with the above meathod, so use savante, devistating gazes, extract essences, hearts, shards, mana flow in balance.</FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Rule 2 should be modified and so should the spell chain list if you are using the INT line with Volatile Magic. For this it is best to not use the power regen spells until you are at about 40% mana. At that point drop off a mana flow and then continue to burn until 20% then start working on the savante and devistating gazes. Oh yeah tell your MT never to worry about you returning to full mana because of this. </FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>The biggest key to keeping perpetualty going is recasting maintained spells like brain burst, abolish hope and tribulation. The recast timers are up on those before the duration is off. Recasting these will most definitly allow you to keep it going, not to mention you proc like crazy. WIth all of that in mind it is not advised by me to sink AA points into Abloish Hope because it will never wear off. Brain burst is still cool. </FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Dont forget about dispell. That spell has a pretty fast casting time and recast time. You can use that to help keep things going too. </FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Group mobs are easy, start with Dazzeling Array, then Ultra Violent Storm. If both of those are down and so if Momentary Sentiment just cast Phantasmal Replendance.</FONT></DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV> If all else fails you can just recast a group buffs to return to *5.</DIV></LI> <LI> <DIV>Last thing, If you find the mobs are resisting everything, which can kinda mess of the flow of things, move Abolish Hope up higher on the priority list to decrease resistance.</DIV></LI></OL> <P>-stump</P> <P> </P> <P>On raids sometimes I start with this though (depending on the hate gain level of the MT)</P> <OL> <LI>Tribulation</LI> <LI>Forsake Will</LI> <LI>Chronosiphoning</LI> <LI>Tumor</LI> <LI>Drain Tought</LI> <LI>Abolish Hope</LI> <LI>Then go ape po0 crazy with the rest of the chains.</LI></OL>

[Stumpwater28]

<DIV>-----------------</DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Do the following:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- get cheldrak's ring for 5% reuse timer reduction</DIV> <DIV>- get all the proc gear u can (ring of supremacy, breath of the destroyer, bracelet of thule, etc)</DIV> <DIV>- get at least the shimmering beam, brainburst, prismatic chaos, and synergism AAs from the Illusionist tree</DIV> <DIV>- cast shimmering beam between all spells</DIV> <DIV>- recast brainburst only after it terminates</DIV> <DIV>- give priority to prismatic chaos and solar shower when they are up, make sure u cast them even if u have to skip a shim beam somewhere in the cycle</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i promise u wont be able to keep up with recast timers, and ull do MAX dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>then u can put a wizard and troubador in your group and get them to cast frigid gift and precision of the maestro whenever they are up, cuz with that spell haste ull get crazy amounts of procs from those.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but of course, if u cant get the proc gear stick with max crits.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dude: cast shimmering beam between all spells - Stump: I personally beleive this should be about every other rather than inbetween each There is about ~1s left on adverage after other spells if you are a lvl5 perpetualty so that could put you at a risk of losing a rank. However it is important to get your other spells off so that the recast timers start ticking on them quickly.  Just my two cents here. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>recast brainburst only after it terminates - Completely dissagree here. This is useless because casting these right after they are ready is going to result in procs that will equal more damage than the termination damage does. Also recasting this will get you closer to the >30% mana for the INT line if you go with that. Perhaps it would be useful after the >30% mana to not recast this spell and wait for the ternmination.</DIV></DIV>