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[Grimda]

<div>29 illusionist and loving it.  Prior classes were 60 wiz and 53 ranger.  Starting an Illusionist was a gamble since I didn't understand much about this class except grouping with them added a new dimension to the game.  But its become such a challenging yet powerful class I'm sort of hooked. Enough to invest in full set of master spells through level 33.</div><div> </div><div>And we are rare enough that I find myself giving these annoying lessons to new group members; inevitably it just takes one ignorant noob to get us killed.  i can do better soloing than a full group if just one individual doesn't understand aggro control and respect mezzes.  </div><div> </div><div>Yet I think all these quirky group variables makes our class more fascinating.  My thoughts so far is that SOE got illusionist right at least at the 1-30 range.  I can't speak for upper levels.. and raid issues aside (which I don't care about), I'm having a blast!!</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Pari]

<div></div><p>After my Monk got 62 I decided Ineed something different for a change and rolled an Illusionist.</p><p>It's very different in playstyle and challanging. I like to play my Illusionist a lot. Not an easy class to play but that's what I like about it.</p><p>Haven't played in groups much yet due to the fact, that most other players still have no clue what an Illusionist does. Only once was in a good group and people where surprised. Specially the healer since he had to heal the tank much less due to the fact that only 1 mob was hitting him and not a whole bunch.</p><p>Can't wait to get to lvl 32 and see what the construct is capable of.</p>

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Grimdayl wrote:<div>29 illusionist and loving it.  Prior classes were 60 wiz and 53 ranger.  Starting an Illusionist was a gamble since I didn't understand much about this class except grouping with them added a new dimension to the game.  But its become such a challenging yet powerful class I'm sort of hooked. Enough to invest in full set of master spells through level 33.</div><div> </div><div>And we are rare enough that I find myself giving these annoying lessons to new group members; inevitably it just takes one ignorant noob to get us killed.  i can do better soloing than a full group if just one individual doesn't understand aggro control and respect mezzes.  </div><div> </div><div>Yet I think all these quirky group variables makes our class more fascinating.  My thoughts so far is that SOE got illusionist right at least at the 1-30 range.  I can't speak for upper levels.. and raid issues aside (which I don't care about), I'm having a blast!!</div><div> </div><div><hr></div></blockquote><p>What's this like the 5th "<em>I'm lvl 20 something and this class rocks</em>" post I've seen recently.</p><p>Yes yes we all know this.  The class is alot of fun before lvl 35 when it all starts down hill till lvl 50 (get the AE spells).  Even still it's a great group class to play.</p><p>But try and raid as an illusionist and 50% of those cool spells that you learned to love in your 20's and 30's are not usable at all.  Go to a raid and with a few minor exceptions you'll find yourself pressing 1,2,3,4,5 on your keyboard to do some ok but not great damage.  1,2,3,4,5 for 'ok damage' for your entire raiding career.  Woopee ya da day!</p><p>For the last time people.  The general concensus is:</p><ul><li>Illusionists solo = Good to go just not fast.</li><li>Illusionists in group = Ya baby that's the stuff I like.</li><li>Illusionists in raid = Why the hell can't i do what I've done for 70 levels!!!!!! /scream!!!</li></ul><p>Now stop coming here and telling me and the community how great we are at lvl 20 something. jeez.</p><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">03-15-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:27 AM</span></p>

[Domini]

<div>Well I'm a level 60 Illusionist, and in my opinion, I like the lower levels coming here and bringing a breath of fresh air.  I'm tired of hearing how bad we are at raiding, and the endless complaining.</div><div> </div><div>Every class discussion board has the same thing -</div><div> </div><div>1.  We need (fill in the blank) and we are going to cry about it until we get it.</div><div> </div><div>Fact is, the Illusionist class is one of the most powerful classes out there, and the most respected.  We are asked endlessly for groups.  During raids, our combat buffs procs alone are worth are being there.</div><div> </div><div>My wife is a conjurer, and we duo together.  It's a scary combination.  Funny thing is that when we go to the conjurer board it's the same old complaining.</div><div> </div><div>Don't lose your enthusiasm, New Illusionists.  Our class is one of the best in the game, and extremely enjoyable to play.</div><div> </div><div>Magnificent Domonic</div><div>60 Barbarian Illusionist</div><div>Befallen</div><div>Legion of Legend Guild Leader</div><div> </div>

[Imagikka]

<div></div>I am in a raiding guild, and we love our illusionist on raids!!!!   There are several raids that have heroic adds, and he makes them so much easier.  The buffs he gives are amazing as well.  I believe it is one of the most difficult classes to play, and not everyone can do it well.  A lot of the value that a chanter adds is not always easily seen, and therefore underappreciated.  As far as grouping goes, a chanter rocks there too.  For example, taking on a named heroic mob, both healers and one of the dps is down- looks like a sure wipe - then the chanter saves the day!  He mezzes the mob, a dirge rezzes one of the healers, who in tun rezzes the other two people, everyone meds up a little and we smack down the mob!  How awsome is that!  Okay, I know alot of your spells don't work on epics, and that kind of sucks.  But the buffs and mana regen are still awsome.  Rumors that your dps is bad are just that- rumors.  I've seen illusionst parse in the top 6 many times on raids.  Over all, chanters are a great utility class and will always shine in the right light. 

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Imagikka wrote:<div></div>But the buffs and mana regen are still awsome. <hr></blockquote><p>Let me tell you how much fun it is to provide buffs to a group....................</p><p> </p><p>I want to be more then a buff bot with ok damage on raids.  I want to do meaningful CC on more then 1 in 10 epic fights.</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">03-16-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:57 AM</span></p>

[Tuleri]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Imagikka wrote:<div></div><p>I am in a raiding guild, and we love our illusionist on raids!!!!  </p><p><font color="#cc0066">Yes, being a raiding illusionist myself has caused me to focus on my sense of humor and bringing the raid a few good laughs.  Considering how [Removed for Content] we are on raids, it is important for the illusionist to come up with creative ways provide a role.  Our spells sure dont give us a raiding role.</font></p><p><font color="#cc0066">Why dont you raid with an illusionist?</font></p><p> </p><p>There are several raids that have heroic adds, and he makes them so much easier.  awsome is that! </p><p><font color="#cc0099">There isnt a single raid that cannot be done easily without mez. Not ONE.  Oh...several t7 heroic mobs are immune to mezz and such. Enjoy!</font></p><p> </p><p>Okay, I know alot of your spells don't work on epics, and that kind of sucks.  But the buffs and mana regen are still awsome. </p><p><font color="#cc0099">7 spells to be exact (3 mez, 2 stun, powerdrain/stifle, root).  And there are several spells that loose a key effect (color shower, migrane or whatever etc)</font></p><p><font color="#cc0099">Yes it does suck BIG TIME.  No other class is so nerfed on raids then enchanters. Oh and those buffs are cast once and last until you die.   Sound like fun to you?</font></p><p>Rumors that your dps is bad are just that- rumors.  I've seen illusionst parse in the top 6 many times on raids. </p><p><font color="#cc0099">I am still looking to the post you are referring to.  People who have 1/2  a clue are not concerned about our DPS.</font></p><p>Over all, chanters are a great utility class and will always shine in the right light. </p><p><font color="#cc0099">We all wish that this "light" will shine on us in raids soon.</font></p><p></p><hr></blockquote>

[Impetus]

<blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<p>What's this like the 5th "<em>I'm lvl 20 something and this class rocks</em>" post I've seen recently.</p><hr></blockquote>It is kinda amusing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />One tip for all you level 20 illusionists. Please don't overmez. Mezzing within an encounter is usually not needed, and you slow down everyone from using their AEs. Let the healer earn their keep, too.If you want to mez an add, great. If you want to mez a named and beat down his cronies first, that's fine. But if you're in a group with my alt and you mez 3 out of 4 mobs in an encounter, I'm gonna break all those mezzes with my AEs because it's faster and not dangerous at all.

[Pucswift]

I will aggree i've played a fury to 53 and  a templar to 50 as well as a shadownight to 45 I started a illusionist the other night just to see what all the fuss was about and I really enjoyed it at the lower lvl im only 18 i know still wet behind the ears but I do enjoy it its a change and to mez 1 target root the other and kill the 3rd then move down the line is alot of fun compared to what im use to.  Im interested into seeing how well it plays out and im not a big raid person so  its the questing and crafting that'll be it for me!!<div></div>

[Belizarius]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Impetus wrote:<blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<p>What's this like the 5th "<em>I'm lvl 20 something and this class rocks</em>" post I've seen recently.</p><hr></blockquote>It is kinda amusing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote><p>Heh.  Maybe they're all devs...</p><p>One thing I think it's a telling point though.  More than a year after release, and still most people don't know much about grouping with chanters.  If anything, it's probably gotten worse. </p>

[Rayvne2]

<div></div><blockquote><blockquote><hr></blockquote><p>Heh.  Maybe they're all devs...</p><p>One thing I think it's a telling point though.  More than a year after release, and still most people don't know much about grouping with chanters.  If anything, it's probably gotten worse. </p><hr></blockquote><p>/nod</p><p>Example:  Last night I tell my group to let me mezz the Named in a multi mob encounter and then they can aoe to their hearts content on the rest of the encounter.  They laughed at me saying "That's that first time I have ever had a Illusionist tell me to use AOE's".  Sometimes a fulll group will be XPing and someone will comment about me not mezzing a encounter.  I calmly explain that I will only mezz adds from outside the targeted encounter and any powerful mobs in a tough encounter as required since overmezzing slows down xp.  Everyone seems to be happy after hearing this since a lot of classes feel restricted when a enchanter is in their group.</p><p>We all assume that everyone knows how to play with a Illusionist in the group and that is where some of the problem lies.  Politely educate.</p>

[Barobra]

<div></div>Its tough to educate sometimes. People get offended you try to educate at all even if your polite. Some kind of ego thing since they think they know everything about there class and what they should do. Of course these people are pretty rare....but I run into them from time to time.

[Rayvne2]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Barobrain wrote:<div></div>Its tough to educate sometimes. People get offended you try to educate at all even if your polite. Some kind of ego thing since they think they know everything about there class and what they should do. Of course these people are pretty rare....but I run into them from time to time.<hr></blockquote>Not really interested in grouping with people like that anyways. :smileywink:

[whytakemine]

<div><span><blockquote><hr>Rayvne2 wrote:<div></div><p>Example:  Last night I tell my group to let me mezz the Named in a multi mob encounter and then they can aoe to their hearts content on the rest of the encounter. </p><hr></blockquote>Careful - you're correct that they can AOE the <b>rest of the encounter</b>, but many people will read that they can AOE to their hearts content.  I've even got it macro'd into my mezz what will break the mezz, and some people still don't get it.</span></div>