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Barobra
03-07-2006, 03:37 AM
<div>Just curious, what kind of damage do these do at master or adept 3?</div>

Mobindi
03-07-2006, 03:49 AM
<div>Check the spell list sticky in this forum, it has a linky on the second page by Pinski, has all screenies of t7 spells at M1.</div>

Barobra
03-07-2006, 04:04 AM
<div></div>Good call, thank you. All tho...really annoying to find the spells you want on that page. :smileysad:

Pins
03-07-2006, 04:30 AM
<div>Just go here instead of the actual webpage: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.physics.uc.edu/~pinskie/spells/">http://www.physics.uc.edu/~pinskie/spells/</a></div>

Barobra
03-07-2006, 08:05 AM
That works for me.<div></div>

Fizwi
03-07-2006, 12:29 PM
Anyone else a little disappointed with the upgrades thus far?  It seems like App 4s of the new tier are equal to Adept 3s of the precious tier, in almost every skill I've looked at.  This makes me real hesitant to pay for Ad1s, and drives me to spend hours trying for moonstones (and instead racking up the acrylia!  woot!).<div></div>

Etillchou
03-07-2006, 05:00 PM
<div>got to say i'm dissappointed on the entire level.</div><div> </div><div>I got several moonstone but I cant even consider 4 spells that are really worth upgrading. Synergy was one.. solar shower is a common drop for master 1. (altho solar shower compared to color shower ísn't really that much better, just check the wizzie spell for lvl 70, the upgrade there is way bigger).</div><div> </div><div>but seriously.. what to upgrade. oohw wauw a spell for 10 more int and wis for the group. crap. Mezzes for both versions.. nobody can tell how much better they are and mezzes in raid..</div><div> </div><div>power drains.. okay the upgrade there is big.. but.. still crap and useless. For the stun and stifle.. offcourse but.. for a raid?</div><div> </div><div>I can continue like this. I got the rares.. but the upgrades are so small that I feel helpless. Can as well sell the rares and wait for the masters to drop. Nobody will notice what I'll use</div>

Einy
03-07-2006, 06:42 PM
<div></div>Worst is our haste. I have master1 of lvl48 Legerity which is +56% and the new tier7 haste at adept3 is +56% so you need tier7 master1 to upgrade a lvl48 master1. I /bug reported this.

Zebsen
03-07-2006, 07:07 PM
<div></div><p>As for haste, considerable upgrades to this spell will make it useless one way or another as I believe that 100% haste is the cap (correct me if I'm wrong).  They don't have much room to scale this spell, but essentially not upgrading it is worse.</p><p>Mezz is getting to the point that the extra few seconds just isn't worth it.  You have plenty of time to remezz with our T6 mezzes.  I already have those spells at master I, so I will just continue to use those (which are more power effecient as well).  They still don't work on epics, and now on some heroics.  Same thing with stun/stifle.  The extra second added onto these is nice, but not worth replacing a master version for a small duration increase.  The Seal line might be useful if you aren't at the int cap, which I found much easier to reach in T7 than T6.  I never keep the Aspect line up unless we're fighting a mental/magic mob.</p><p>What's worth upgrading in T7?  Color shower, aneurysm, prismatic havoc, and our other AoE (can't remember the name), dynamism, and insight.  Did I miss any?  Shimering beam doesn't get a T7 upgrade.  That leaves 6 spells, 1 of which you can pick as a master 2 choice at 64, leaving 5 others to upgrade.  Maybe a few more if you need the seal line upgraded.</p><p>Yes, I'm disappointed in the lack of increases with our spells, but more disappointed with the lack of dev attention to our class.  You only need to upgrade 5 spells in T7 by my count and our "new" spell does more potential harm than good. </p><p>Zebsen</p>

Pins
03-07-2006, 07:21 PM
You forgot Devitalizing Stare, and the Power/Resist buff. Those are the only other 2 spells I can see us really wanting to upgrade, besides the personae(which is really nice for soloing heroics).Also next level cap increase, we will more than likely not get a new haste spell, and will be stuck with Rapidity till the end of time, due to the 100% haste cap.

Manyak
03-07-2006, 08:10 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Etillchou wrote:<div>solar shower is a common drop for master 1<hr></div></blockquote>on befallen, i havent seen it on the broker once. where does it drop? i wanna farm for it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Pins
03-07-2006, 08:47 PM
<blockquote><hr>DaMutation wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>Etillchou wrote:<div>solar shower is a common drop for master 1<hr></div></blockquote>on befallen, i havent seen it on the broker once. where does it drop? i wanna farm for it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>All level 70 masters and adepts drop in the dragon ring event area on the top floors of the Palace of the Awakened.