to use the newest mez or not

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<div>I'm sure this has been asked before but what is the benfit of upgrading to the latest mez spells?</div><div> </div><div>When I dinged 66 I scribed my master 1 version of <u>Empty Mind</u> and replaced the Adept 3 <u>Abduct Mind</u> easly.  Less resists (or more resistablity as its displayed on the spell)  and a longer (5 second longer) duration made this an easy choise for what to use. </div><div> </div><div>However, when I dinged 68 last night I scribed my adept 1 version of <u>Lustrious Regalia</u> and noticed it wasn't any different in duration then my adept 3 of <u>Brilliant Regalia</u>  the resistably rateing is lower and nothing else seems to be differnt (other then a slightly higher power cost with the upgraded spell but thats to be expected).  Is there a reason to use the 68 level version above the 54 level version if the 68 version is less quality then the one its replacing?   I have had Brilliant be able to stick on mobs up to level 72 so far (highest I have encountered to this point that I have tried to mez) so I am kinda at a loss of what the purpose is.</div><div> </div><div>Given the fact that moonstones are in preaty high demand right now its not likely I am going to buy too many of them right away, espcially  when master chests seem to be dropping from trash mobs preaty regularly (meaning I see one or two a night) it seems more likely that I will be able to find a master 1 of most spells well before getting them adept 3'd and then upgraded to masters as I can find them like I did in DoF.</div><div> </div><div>I'd be intersted in hearing what other's think when faced with this situation where the upgrade has no obvious benfit to be used over the spell its replacing unless its an equal or higher quality then the spell its replacing.  If the duration was longer or recast a little shorter I would use the higher level spell of lesser quality but thats not the case in this instance</div>

[Pins]

The Regalia line does get upgraded to 25.0s with the latest one. As for which one to use, honestly I'd go with the one that you have higher. Use the Master over the Adept 3, and so on. The difference in duration isn't that big a deal, whereas the resistability is more useful than the little duration increase.

[Bawang]

<div></div>I've been wondering about a similar situation.  I'm nearly 36 now and have the lvl 24 Entrance spell which I upgraded to master II.  When I get the Capture Mind spell at 38, will I get an option to upgrade it to master II? and if not, should I use Entrance for less resistability rather than Capture Mind?

[Barobra]

<div></div>The difference when it comes to mezzes and picking master 2's is very small. But its actually a nice increase over the adept 3 but not a very nice increase at all if you have the master.

[Einy]

<div>I have the same problem. I have master2 lvl52 Abduct Mind. I didn't make adept3 lvl66 Empty mind yet cause resistability is only 20% compared to 31% and noone knows if spelllevel counts into resists as well. Empty Mind is 50sec compared to Abduct Mind 45sec but its not that important. Empty Mind is probably one of the last tier7 spells I will make adept3.</div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Einyen wrote:<div>I have the same problem. I have master2 lvl52 Abduct Mind. I didn't make adept3 lvl66 Empty mind yet cause resistability is only 20% compared to 31% and noone knows if spelllevel counts into resists as well. Empty Mind is 50sec compared to Abduct Mind 45sec but its not that important. Empty Mind is probably one of the last tier7 spells I will make adept3.</div><hr></blockquote>Spell level is meaningless for resists. Go ahead, bring out your ancient Mez spells, and you'll see if they're of the same quality, they'll have the same resist rate.

[Manyak]

<div></div><div>the way i do it, is i use my most upgraded mezz, as long as it isnt more than 1 tier behind. i mean, if u  have master 2 fascinate for example, its not using it over empty mind adept 3 cuz the difference in duration is HUGE. But between abduct mind master 1 and empty mind adept 3, id use abduct mind until i can get my hands on empty mind master 1, either off a drop or for a reasonable price. the same goes for all control spells.</div>

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<div></div><p>Thanks for the feedback everyone!</p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote><hr>DaMutation wrote:<div></div><div>the way i do it, is i use my most upgraded mezz, as long as it isnt more than 1 tier behind. i mean, if u  have master 2 fascinate for example, its not using it over empty mind adept 3 cuz the difference in duration is HUGE. But between abduct mind master 1 and empty mind adept 3, id use abduct mind until i can get my hands on empty mind master 1, either off a drop or for a reasonable price. the same goes for all control spells.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Yea this is preaty much what I am doing currently also. </p><p>I dont think I am really going to spend much time or money on adept 3's.  Three weeks into an expnasion I am 40% into 69 and have 4 differnt master 1's of t7.  The higher level trash mobs seem to be droping master spells  at a good clip (much much better then DoF where I raided for 4 months to get more then a couple masters)   Where in DoF it was easy to get the rares to get adpet 3's made and much harder to get master spells... it seems to that the opposite is true in KoS (with the limiting of rares to make adepts ... and that moonstones are so highly sought after by nearly everyone the prices on a moonstone on my server are just crazy )</p>

[Tuleri]

<div></div><div>On a similar note, I have noticed my Ad1 of the t7 Root spell seems to hold a bit better then a master1 of the t6 (or is it from t5) spell.</div><div> </div><div>Anyone have any comments on this?</div><div> </div><div>T</div>

[Manyak]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Tulerine wrote:<div></div><div>On a similar note, I have noticed my Ad1 of the t7 Root spell seems to hold a bit better then a master1 of the t6 (or is it from t5) spell.</div><div> </div><div>Anyone have any comments on this?</div><div> </div><div>T</div><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>I actually noticed the same thing, even said it on the coercer forums. Its not supposed to, but for some reason im finding that it is.</p>