Raid logs to look at my DPS.

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div>I've been a firm believer that our DPS has been "ok" on raids and been very good in groups, about the only improvement I want is a harder hitting dot and a bigger 'finish off the HO' damage spell even if it's on a long recast timer.  (we need lots of improvement in other areas)  Lots of people seem to think we can't do good DPS on raids, so I though I'd post an example of my guilds log parse.  This does represent a 'typical' dps fight for me but certainly not the maximum that I could get.  I have not really perfected the Prismatic Havoc with my guildmates yet, but we are getting better at it.  That alone could up my DPS alot.</div><div> </div><div>My damage spells are all adept3 or better with the exception of Prismatic Havoc which is adept1 still (upgrading it tonight).</div><div> </div><div>I'm showing these two fights because they are pretty dam easy as epic fights go; so no CC, no debuffs, no jousting and the mob wasn't mental resist.  I was pretty much pure DPS mode.</div><div> </div><div>Brius Lakado</div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_11brius.html">http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_11brius.html</a></div><div> </div><div>Wolan Lakado<!-- EZCODE LINK END --></div><div><a target="_blank" href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_11wolan.html">http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_11wolan.html</a></div><div> </div><div>Feel free to provide feedback on my spell choices.</div><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:49 AM</span></p>

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<div></div><p>thanks for shareing those Kalten.  I have been looking at my own parses reciently to improve my abltiles and dps as well and was wondering who do you buff your Dyna on?  I am trying to find the best classes to cast it on (ones that make lots of casts per minute are more effective then slower casts that hit for huge numbers... )  I found that I like to buff Troubs as Dyna and thier precision stack and makes for nices boosts in thier dps... Coercers also benfit alot as they too have alot of faster casting spells that they can cycle thru quick.</p><p>I'll have to look at your parses more closely and compair them to mine to get a better idea what else might be gleaned <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[SunT]

<div>I didn't look to closely but I can see at a glance that 20% plus of your damage was caused by a bard proc.</div><div> </div><div>Without a bard in your group you would be on par with my norm which is somewhere around 300.</div>

[Pins]

Well, albit this is from an entire raid(start to finish), <a target="_blank" href="http://www.physics.uc.edu/~pinskie/gates/raid.html">Gates of Ahket Ahken</a>. I had no other procs but dynamism from myself. As you can see our DPS is fine, specially with a brigand in your group <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>SunTsu wrote:<div>I didn't look to closely but I can see at a glance that 20% plus of your damage was caused by a bard proc.</div><div> </div><div>Without a bard in your group you would be on par with my norm which is somewhere around 300.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Don't you always have a Troub in your "Caster DPS" group?  I though everyone did, big big help.</p><p>I'm making an educated guess that when I've upgraded a few more things, maximized buffs, improve my casting order a little bit and worked out the kinks I have with my melee classes for Prismatic Havoc... I'll be 500-550 dps range.  Be interesting to see if I can pull that off or if other poeple have already on similar fights.</p><p>Do others think that's acheivable too or am I day dreaming?</p><p> </p>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>SunTsu wrote:<div>I didn't look to closely but I can see at a glance that 20% plus of your damage was caused by a bard proc.</div><div> </div><div>Without a bard in your group you would be on par with my norm which is somewhere around 300.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Don't you always have a Troub in your "Caster DPS" group?  I though everyone did, big big help.</p><p>I'm making an educated guess that when I've upgraded a few more things, maximized buffs, improve my casting order a little bit and worked out the kinks I have with my melee classes for Prismatic Havoc... I'll be 500-550 dps range.  Be interesting to see if I can pull that off or if other poeple have already on similar fights.</p><p>Do others think that's acheivable too or am I day dreaming?</p><p> </p><hr></blockquote>More than possible. I occasinaly hit 500-550 with a troub in my group, add in a wizard(icebound gift) and I could probably hit 500-550. I hit 440 against sunchild with a 57 troub in my group and a wizard. Had no melee(wish I had a brigand) in the group, else I would have easily broke 500.

[SunT]

<div></div><div></div><p>I do group with a troub often, I was just pointing out that the numbers were as much his as yours.  In PPR it is downright dangerous...in an exciting sort of way. </p><p>Those huge groups are a Sea of red.  Cast Color shower and watch the mobs run to me.</p><p>300 is a solid number for single target named epics.  If you are upgraded and can keep mashing you can maintain this.</p><p>I have logs at over 1k DPS and have been high on the DPS list several times but it is not the norm.  Our DPS is situational.  We need the right catalyst and a big group to do the big numbers.</p><p>I am all adept 3 or better, most are master and my INT is near 400 self Buffed.  Little over I think depending on the resist gear I have on.</p><p>Message Edited by SunTsu on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:42 PM</span></p>

[zit]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>SunTsu wrote:<div>I didn't look to closely but I can see at a glance that 20% plus of your damage was caused by a bard proc.</div><div> </div><div>Without a bard in your group you would be on par with my norm which is somewhere around 300.</div><hr></blockquote><p>Don't you always have a Troub in your "Caster DPS" group?  I though everyone did, big big help.</p><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>Well, this presupposes</p><p>1. every guild has a Troub online at every raid</p><p>2. the illu is always in the caster-dps-group as well</p><p>at least for my guild i can say, both is not always the case.</p>

[Pra]

<div>I do like your damage on the raid, what I find REALLY amusing though, is that the conjurers total damage is second only to the swashbuckler.  And I find the warlocks damage below yours rather humorous too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[trenor]

<div>while these raid parse or good most raiding guilds would not tie up a spot for a catylyst (tank) to proc havoc in caster grp ie troub, illusionist, walock, wizard, conjuror, and fury/warden.  The opttimum damage out put grp.  Because of procs on toubadors buff.  This is what i found so anyway you can take all that havoc damage away from most raiding illusionistsif they are in the optimum damage out put grp.  If dynamism damage was credited to you be a different story though. </div><div> </div><div>In doing tests we found that conjuror mae pets do about 200 more dps on average then the assassin one a good way to boost dps although it isn't credited to you is to put dynamism on the mage pet it procs mad.</div><div> </div><div>Fiz</div>

[Tuleri]

<div></div><div>Lately the group set up for me has been</div><div> </div><div>1) Illusionist (ME!!)</div><div>2) Inquisitor-for zealotry</div><div>3) Brigand</div><div>4) Assassin -for poison(occasionally a zerker or another healer)</div><div>5) Bruiser</div><div>6) Bruiser</div><div> </div><div>This group becomes a crazy melee DPS with haste an all & pris shock/bruiser ae every 15 seconds!  I am consistantly in the top 5-10 in raid DPS assuming not much CC is needed (which it usually isnt, unless it is a new encounter for us)</div>

[SunT]

<div></div><p>I have been parsing alot the past few days.  My average single target DPS is 450ish topping at jsut below 600.  My average group DPS is 800ish topping out at 1400ish.</p><p>No troubador in group.</p><p>So to amend my earlier comments, we can do this DPS if we dont debuf or provide ancillary regen.</p>

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><p>I'm making an educated guess that when I've upgraded a few more things, maximized buffs, improve my casting order a little bit and worked out the kinks I have with my melee classes for Prismatic Havoc... I'll be 500-550 dps range.  Be interesting to see if I can pull that off or if other poeple have already on similar fights.</p><p>Do others think that's acheivable too or am I day dreaming?</p><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>Sorta strange to be responding to my own post but I wanted to provide everyone with an update on this.</p><p>The first fight last night <a target="_blank" href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_18keeper.html">The Keeper of the City Keys</a> I hit <strong>550.24dps</strong> and that does not include any successful prismatic havoc chains just the normal 3 per cast.  The fight is so long and the DPS of the melee are so low becuase of the fact that we mistimed the first joust and had alot of splattered melee.  So keep that in mind when you see me at the top of the list of DPS, was more a fluke then being the norm.</p><p>The second fight <a target="_blank" href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_18capt.html">The Prismatic Captain</a> I didn't have a melee (went LD) to put Prismatic Havoc on so my DPS suffered as I tried to get it on pets.  I also had a line of sight casting problem at the start of the fight that cost me about 10 seconds of casting time that hurt my DPS average.  But still I got to <strong>430.43dps</strong>.  This fight also more accurately depicts my DPS in relation to the Assassin, Ranger and Swashy in the guild.</p><p>I missed nearly all of the Brius Lakado fight due to extreme vidio lag so I won't post that one to compare to the old one above in this thread... but I do have...</p><p><a target="_blank" href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_18wolan.html">Wolan Lakado</a>, this guy died right before I got off another Prismatic Havoc that would have upped my DPS some and I only had 2 migraine procs because I over wrote the DOT to early so I lost out on that additional 520damage. Still got to <strong>533.31dps</strong>.</p><p><!-- EZCODE LINK END --></p><p>I'm rather happy I've improved my DPS so much from the last parses I've posted here.  Those where 400'ish range, now im doing 500-550 range, pretty good DPS for our class i think.  I'd like to be a little closer to swashy damage (600-650) but I'm not to concerned about that.</p><p> </p><p>Dispite practicing I'm still not getting the Prismatic Havoc chains to work well.  I'm trying it with a 59 brigand and in our practice runs the most I ever got was 5 procs (instead of the normal 3) from Prismatic Havoc.  Could someone who is better at this then me give me details of how this is supposed to be done.  Thanks.</p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">01-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:27 AM</span></p>

[SunT]

<div></div><p>The two places I see uber Havoc is when the tank is using an attack that hits multiple times per round or an AOE mele.</p><p>Monks do nice mulit attacks and Pally's have a good aoe mele.  The best IMO is still the Zerk rampage.  It is a sea of red when they do it.  I am lucky to be alive after.</p><p>If you are timing then time it with one of those two attacks.  I really dont spend alot of time timing tho.</p><p>I use a Zerk when I can.  Prefer the MA Zerk in our guild if I am in his group.  If not him then I use a Brigand.  They may not be the best catalyst but they dont joust so you get it off all the time.  In non jousting I like a monk.  Single target multi attacks are great for it.</p>

[Pins]

Bruisers work well with Crushing Fury(8 hits), Monks have a 5 hit attack(forgot the name), Swashies have a 3 hit attack, and brigand have a 3 hit attack as well(I think). To get 5 attacks from a brigand, have them get lucky and hit twice, then nail their 3 hit attack, that'll give you the 5 procs. I prefer the bruiser, which works great as far as I've seen. Although deadly if you don't have somehow to lower your aggro.

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:Bruisers work well with Crushing Fury(8 hits), Monks have a 5 hit attack(forgot the name), Swashies have a 3 hit attack, and brigand have a 3 hit attack as well(I think). To get 5 attacks from a brigand, have them get lucky and hit twice, then nail their 3 hit attack, that'll give you the 5 procs. I prefer the bruiser, which works great as far as I've seen. Although deadly if you don't have somehow to lower your aggro.<hr></blockquote><p>Oh that's my problem then.  I though the Brigand had the 8 hit attack and it's the Bruiser Crushing Fury.   Ok back off to the practice feilds for me!</p><p>/bonk_self</p>

[Tuleri]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:Bruisers work well with Crushing Fury(8 hits), Monks have a 5 hit attack(forgot the name), Swashies have a 3 hit attack, and brigand have a 3 hit attack as well(I think). To get 5 attacks from a brigand, have them get lucky and hit twice, then nail their 3 hit attack, that'll give you the 5 procs. I prefer the bruiser, which works great as far as I've seen. Although deadly if you don't have somehow to lower your aggro.<hr></blockquote><p>The Bruisers I work with keep their stun on the ready while they are doing the Crushing Fury attack.  Assuming they are on their toes, they can easily save you. </p><p>Altough pris procs "better" with the Zerker rampage attack, the Bruisers have a 30 sec refresh, while the zerkers have a 90 second refresh. </p>

[Dufre]

I can usually get in the 400 dps range without bard or bruiser.  I will see if I can tweak some things to get into the 500 range.<div></div>

[RaspenJ]

Refresh on zerker Rampage (and Open Wounds) is 3 minutes, not 90 seconds.

[WikiView]

as i playing a 60 swash as my main i can say that its true that we get a triple hit CA but we also get another double CA plus we can increase our atkspeed (mostly i hit 3-5 times just autoatking <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )so iMO i would go for the swashy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[SunT]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>WikiView wrote:as i playing a 60 swash as my main i can say that its true that we get a triple hit CA but we also get another double CA plus we can increase our atkspeed (mostly i hit 3-5 times just autoatking <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )so iMO i would go for the swashy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div><hr></blockquote><p>The problem I have using a mele dps catalyst rathe than a tank is the targetting.  I am at the mercy of your target or I have to constantly retarget.</p><p>I prefer a Zerk who is MA.  Then I always have a target for the rest of my spells and every couple min I hit big numbers.</p>

[Manyak]

<div>well, depending on the classes ur guild usually has at a raid, putting a bruiser in the caster group may not always be a bad idea. alot of the times we have an excess in melee classes and not many casters, so when that happens i always make sure i get a bruiser in the caster group. also sometimes on easy mobs ill do it too, just to [Removed for Content] some wizzies off =)</div>

[ZeldanDream]

<div></div>Really, I have looked at my DPS.... if I really want to .. I win ^^. BUT... I don't wanna die ... so I cut the DPS a little. Really, my DPS hits the same as the Wizzies (and swashy/bruiser/assasin) but I have to make sure I am buffed up to it. I always run max INT(420) and Dynamism (Master 1) when I go DPS. Really folks, you can do it .. and you can die. Honestly, you just have to make sure you stay low on the hate list, I have killed myself over and over due to over DPS at all stages of epic battle (20% 60% ect) I don't have the uber proc mage gear from T6 either (I know of a cap and necklace with +300dmg on 7% chance for spells .. uber for solo .. but don't put em on unless you want to be one dead chanter .. fast!!!) .... I guess I am just Uber ^^

[Manyak]

<div>nope, not just u. tonight though PPR i had the pleasure of being grouped with a bruiser, and we had everything timed perfectly. i was putting out, on average, 850DPS on a single target, and god knows how much on aoes. i even managed to tank a few of em hehe. but of course, i died enuogh times from aggro (and thats with guardian deaggro on me, and dirge aggro on MT) to get to 20% armor by the 3rd floor, while evry1 else was still at 80%.</div>

[Pins]

Yes, it's so hard to do DPS as we've said. Heck, I peel even without gear on, well if there's aggro ditches and stuff going on <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Gotta love Poet's Palace: The Return, and peeling mobs after you break your gear(final mob, I end up peeling all over the place on those encounters, the last 3 nameds that is, well and the twins).

[Padi]

<div>One of the biggest challenges is self control.  You know you can do more damage, but you just have to say no.</div>

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><p><font color="#cc0000"><strong><em><u>Ok I best try and keep this in perspective before you go and read this.</u></em></strong></font></p><p>This is an example of something that is very rare for us. It has to be done on a night with a blue moon and a lunar eclipse other wise it won't work.  No but seriously you need to have the right group, the right tuants, the right timing the right big group of mobs to fight, the willingness to die ect.. ect..  I got really lucky in the sence that one of the rounds of color shower went off in the same second that the Prismatic Havoc chain did.  but.. unlucky too, I was dead 1 second later.</p><p> </p><p>This shows me doing 19,176 damage in 1 second plus My_Zerker_Friend  added in 9,300 damage with the hits that triggered my Prismatic Shock procs. In this snippit I don't have my normal Troubador in the group so I lost out on alot of damage from him. I'm almost scared to try this with a troubador in the group and while the troubador and Sorc both have up there short lived damage adds up and proc'ing too.  This Havoc chain would probally start pushing 30,000 damage or more.  Oh I'd be dead, very dead but it would make for great parsing fun.  Well I guess If I know im gonna die from doing this.... 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2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 600 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Stunning Howl hits remains of a failed raider for 684 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 641 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend tries to slash remains of a failed raider with Stunning Howl, but remains of a failed raider blocks.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Stunning Howl hits remains of a failed raider for 612 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 545 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Stunning Howl hits remains of a failed raider for 548 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 544 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Stunning Howl hits remains of a failed raider for 728 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 249 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 630 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 226 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 587 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 185 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 616 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 317 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 628 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Stunning Howl hits remains of a failed raider for 680 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 267 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 578 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 288 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 207 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Flametongue hits remains of a failed raider for 35 points of heat damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 624 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend launches a furious assault!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] My_Zerker_Friend's Furious Assault hits remains of a failed raider for 179 points of slashing damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 644 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 295 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Prismatic Shock hits remains of a failed raider for 569 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a holy weapon!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 332 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 311 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 340 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 319 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 310 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOU try to confound remains of a failed raider with Color Shower, but remains of a failed raider resists.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 292 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 272 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 291 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 296 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 318 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 285 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 330 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 290 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 284 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 288 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 285 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Dynamism hits remains of a failed raider for 318 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider is struck with a dynamic attack!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 296 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] You blast Remains of a failed raider with a color shower!(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] YOUR Color Shower hits remains of a failed raider for 295 points of mental damage.(1138513945)[Sun Jan 29 00:52:25 2006] Remains of a failed raider's brain sears under a shower of color!</font></p>

[zit]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><p><font color="#cc0000"><strong><em><u>Ok I best try and keep this in perspective before you go and read this.</u></em></strong></font></p><p>This is an example of something that is very rare for us. It has to be done on a night with a blue moon and a lunar eclipse other wise it won't work.  <font color="#ccff00">No but seriously you need to have the right group, the right tuants, the right timing the right big group of mobs to fight,</font> the willingness to die ect.. ect..  I got really lucky in the sence that one of the rounds of color shower went off in the same second that the Prismatic Havoc chain did.  but.. unlucky too, I was dead 1 second later.</p><hr></blockquote><p>dont forget about the most important : you need a lot of luck for the right proc (furious assault) to go off in the right moment. this is nothing that can be planned and as you stated happens very very rare, so rare that many of us may never experience it. very striking not only to the mobs when it happens :smileysurprised:</p><p> </p>

[Bedarra]

Best class to give dynamism is a fast hitting dual wielding melee class. i.e assasin.  I guess monk or melee ranger ( never saw one though ) would be great as well. <div></div>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Bedarra wrote:Best class to give dynamism is a fast hitting dual wielding melee class. i.e assasin.  I guess monk or melee ranger ( never saw one though ) would be great as well. <div></div><hr></blockquote>No, that is not a good thing to give them anymore. Spells(taunts, and damage shields are included) are the only things that proc dynamism now. From parsing while having a scout in my group which also includes a troubador, I very rarely see Precise Note or Dissonant Note procing for that scout, thus you should put it on try casters(enchanters and sorcerors), then druids(if the fights require very little healing and they are nuking), then summoners, then bards, then the MT.

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><div>I was only able to get this <strong>844.67dps</strong> on one mob <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_28ytalzak.html" target="_blank">Foreman Ytalzak</a> in <font size="2"><strong>Gates of Ahket Aken</strong>, because of Mez'ing and/or debuff duties, high resist rates, missed Prismatic Havoc chains yada yada.  So this is 1 fight in oh.. 20? Still it's worth noting what can be done for DPS.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2">This is offset by fights like <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_28magrick.html" target="_blank">Magrick the Destroyer</a><!-- EZCODE LINK END --> where I did <strong>98.94dps </strong>being nearly full time CC on the dogs.</font></div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">02-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:48 AM</span></p>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><div>I was only able to get this <strong>844.67dps</strong> on one mob <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_28ytalzak.html" target="_blank">Foreman Ytalzak</a> in <font size="2"><strong>Gates of Ahket Aken</strong>, because of Mez'ing and/or debuff duties, high resist rates, missed Prismatic Havoc chains yada yada.  So this is 1 fight in oh.. 20? Still it's worth noting what can be done for DPS.</font></div><div><font size="2"></font> </div><div><font size="2">This is offset by fights like <a href="http://home.earthlink.net/~shawndwire/1_28magrick.html" target="_blank">Magrick the Destroyer</a><!-- EZCODE LINK END --> where I did <strong>98.94dps </strong>being nearly full time CC on the dogs.</font></div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">02-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">07:48 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Actually you got 98.94dps because of immunities, not because of your CC duty. Then again, WAIT. How the HELL are you doing 100dps on magrick teh destroyer? That DPS isn't possible on a mental and magic immune mob.

[Manyak]

<div></div>my guess is dynamism/aria procs from mezzing the dogs, along with some DPS when the raid got to em

[KaltenAlTh]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:Actually you got 98.94dps because of immunities, not because of your CC duty. Then again, WAIT. How the HELL are you doing 100dps on magrick teh destroyer? That DPS isn't possible on a mental and magic immune mob.<hr></blockquote><p>The damage came against the dogs after Magrick the Destroyer was dead with some additional damage from Dynamism procs while mezing.</p><p><span class="time_text">Also I don't think he's magic immune in which case you could (but i didn't) use Word of Force for about 500 damage every 3.5 seconds or so.</span></p><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">02-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:35 AM</span></p>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>KaltenAlThor wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>Pinski wrote:Actually you got 98.94dps because of immunities, not because of your CC duty. Then again, WAIT. How the HELL are you doing 100dps on magrick teh destroyer? That DPS isn't possible on a mental and magic immune mob.<hr></blockquote><p>The damage came against the dogs after Magrick the Destroyer was dead with some additional damage from Dynamism procs while mezing.</p><p><span class="time_text">Also I don't think he's magic immune in which case you could (but i didn't) use Word of Force for about 500 damage ever every 3.5 seconds or so.</span></p><p>Message Edited by KaltenAlThor on <span class="date_text">02-01-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:25 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Nope, he is magic immune. Gnoll Master's Strike, and Word of Force both show up as fails to inflict damage, if you get them to even land, glad that is sort of going away.