Hehe I had to repost this here in case anyone missed it, just too priceless :)

[Pil]

<DIV>Quote from Tunaboo, a Guardian...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"Illus isnt played much so it doesn't get nerfed as fast as other classes.. but it is definately the most overpowered class atm. DPS of a wizard when you count everything it does, and able to solo mobs like cazel? Illus are good stuff."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DPS of a wizard?  In what world?  The only time i can out DPS a wizard is when that wizard is either AFK, dead, or not logged in.  And no, i dont wanna see posts of how such and such chanter parsed 500dps.  We cant put that down consistently for any length of time, not fighting solo or group level and difficulty appropriate content.  Lock down a mob with old root, and let a wizard go full burn on it.  Not even funny.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But people like this, are one of the many reasons we continue to go downhill...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Btw, i am lvl 50, have adept 1's, no fabled gear, 245int, 3100pow.  I am hardly uber, but i consider my equip adequate, but i also dont expect to kill heroics.  I expect to kill solo encounters, and even that is near impossible with any degree of consistency.  Why am i, a CC class, worried more now about getting and add, and having to run?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pilan 50 Illusionist Ogguk</DIV>

[Darmash]

You are sure it's a guardian speaking, not a dev ? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Both those groups of people seem to know so much (and about the same thing) about our class.<div></div>

[Tristinfate]

<DIV>I'm pretty sure that is talking about enchanters in EQ1, Cazel is a massivly underconned giant in the desert , I haven't seen him yet in EQ2 if he exists here.  He had the higest per tick health regen I have ever seen, and he could summon you to him if you tired to run, I died many times to him and cursed the day he was born.</DIV> <DIV>And enchanters are an entirely different creature in EQ1, I didn't play it much but I remember hearing they were no more than buff bots most of the time.</DIV>

[Jaxidi]

<DIV>Cazel is in EQ2 in an instance off of POF.  I say bullpoopy to those who think we can solo him!  With a 60 guardian, assassin, ranger, and a couple of healers plus myself we were barely able to take him down.  Considering he chaincasts a 15-second stun that has no range limit, I'm very curious how one things we can solo this guy.</DIV>

[Fizwi]

<P>Ah, the EQ1 chanter...if by buff bots you mean overpowered gods, then yeah.</P> <P>*grampa voice* Back in my day, we were charming things in Tipt that quadded for 1200 a hit!  With procs!  We didn't use no sissy Total Domination AA either!  And we hasted them!  Uphill both ways!</P> <DIV>Sadly Tunaboo <STRONG>is</STRONG> referring to the EQ2 chanter.  Cazel is a big nasty quest mob who made his reappearance with the DoF expansion.  DPS of a wizard?  Yeah, a level 30 one.</DIV>

[Fundi]

      I'm pretty sure the spell that this guardian is talking about that makes illusionists overpowered is the Prismatic Havoc line.  When coupled with a bruiser's savage blows or crushing fury, or a berserker's rampage or open wounds, this spell does insane damage, plus the recast is incredibly low (15 sec).  In addition, we get spellshield, which keeps Terrorantula from membluring and makes him a walk in the park.  Illusionists are one of the strongest classes in EQ2 right now, but I wouldn't say they're the most overpowered.  I give that title to the bruiser.  With regard to soloing Cazel, there's no way in hell.  The guy was probably exaggerating because illusionists could (before root nerf) solo places like Scornfeather Roost.  This was a root problem that made all mages overpowered, not purely an illusionist one.  Imo, what should be our strong points (roots, mezz, stifle, power drain) are our weak points, and what should be our weak points (damage dealing) are our strong points.  SOE just screwed up.  They'll soon realize it and our damage will be nerfed too.  Yippie!

[SunT]

<P><STRONG>This was a root problem that made all mages overpowered, not purely an illusionist one.</STRONG></P> <P> </P> <P>The Sorc have had no change in thier root.  They can solo Heroics far easier than we can/could both pre and post CU.  So if the plan was to stop everyone, they failed miserably as those who have the most prowess are not affected.  Sorc can still solo Poets to the first guaranteed master.  Still solo all SC named.  Still solo Scornfeathers.</P> <P>No 'Fix' of exploit...only a Nerf of Chanters.</P> <p>Message Edited by SunTsu on <span class=date_text>11-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:20 AM</span>