OMG.................5 casts of root just to try in a group and not one lasted more than 3 seconds

[trenor]

<DIV>Holy crapole!!  I played for about an hour and i can't now i need to go have a rum and coke i really feel for you all that need to lvl now.  Root like all other spells was adept 3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fiz</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S. Glad I am 60 and dont need to lvl</DIV>

[Chrysostom]

<div></div>My MASTER 1 root will not hold a green v ten levels below me.  "Slight chance to break" my foot.  I am so ticked right now. I was taking a "wait and see" approach to this patch. What was Sony thinking?  And also, why all the stealth nerfs! They should at least have the courage to post all the nerfs to our class so people can see them. <div></div>

[Travelin'Man]

<DIV>I stopped playing and just put up my trader. This is rediculous. My adept 3 root broke each and every encounter wih one up, even con solo mobs. We used to be the toughest class to solo, had 2 months to see what true soloing was about, and now we are back to the beginning. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Glad I hit 60 before this nerf. I feel for all that are still xp'ing. </DIV>

[Cylanth]

Yeah, same here, my master root is breaking on greys.  GREYS!

[Kurai_Mitsukai]

<DIV>This really sucks... finally make our root mean something and take it away a couple month later... guess I will go get my monk, least they didn't screw with them.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You never know though, it might not have been their intention for our root to be broken... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oopajuu - 58 Froglok Illusionist</DIV> <DIV>Cogglesprok - 50 Gnome Monk</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Leader of solo patron guild - Level 16</DIV> <DIV>Lavastorm</DIV>

[Frippy]

<P>I played my coercer for about an hour.  Was looking forward to getting level 45 tonight.  But after dying 3 times to root breaking and dreadful awe time reduction messing me up, I put up my trader and called it a night.  I hope they fix this, because their "small" chance of it breaking is more like frequently breaking, making root worthless.</P> <P> </P> <P>Pondering if I should quit EQ2 again or try rolling up a different toon that they'd probably just nerf when I start having fun on it.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[merkla]

<P>this is just ridiculus</P> <P>in 6years of everquest 1 i never seen a mass of mistakes like this</P> <P> </P> <P>i always thought: they had a lot of time to learn how to bring up a online game..but what is this?</P> <P>balance class? probably to balance class is the most hard thing to do.... evry class is special for some ability </P> <P>root is again completely broken... illusionist and coercer are the hardest calss to play.. in a game where skill seems to be banned couse when u show em ur class get nerfed so u cant do that anymore.. we become completely useless</P> <P>1) raids:</P> <P>dps: low (and not what this class is inteend to.. or i am wrong?)</P> <P>utility: spellshield(work up to 60 and if it work on highermobs... just 1 spell???)</P> <P>          dismay(the epic mob oesnt suffer the difference)</P> <P>          mana battery(nerfed yes if u dont remember insight masterI is 31mana per tik)</P> <P>         IA(lol no commen)</P> <P>buffs: we give good mental,divine,magic resist plus 69 wis (still godo it seems)</P> <P>SiSRM: our role!!!</P> <P>           0% useful in raid except oh yes psichotic spectrum that can bu slightly useful with 2 illusionist in raid that can do a           GReAT team work chain castin it with a difference of 4.5sec between evry cast..find me a guild with 2 illusionist<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>on my server  there are like 12 active 50plus illusionists.....</P> <DIV> <DIV>full Group</DIV> <DIV>dps: still low</DIV> <DIV>buffs: as upstairs</DIV> <DIV>utility: as upstairs but dismay make a slightly difference</DIV> <DIV>sisrm: in a well balanced group that isnt killing orange mobs all this abilityes becomee trivials except some rare occcasions</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Small group</DIV> <DIV>here is only where i see an utility</DIV> <DIV>Sisrm get very usefull specially vs casters and rooted targets while the wizy nuke it down, mez good for adds</DIV> <DIV>buffs: as upstairs</DIV> <DIV>utility: IA can make a difference and dismay can lower dps of mob in long fight</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solo:</DIV> <DIV>that is completely ridiculus</DIV> <DIV>we are back again at before Cu... WHY u did CU if u regret 70% of what u did???</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>epic again unstiffables roto again broken, mezz again like bards....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>the most important thing in evry relationship between someone that decide (developers) and a bunch of people that follow (us)</DIV> <DIV>is: if u cant afford to give an improvement dont give it...cuz if u give it and after u want to go back the followers will upset.... u make our class fun to play for 2 monthes.... now... the absolute darkness... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ihope and really hope u are still working out to resolve this  couse right now i dont see any way how to enjoy my illusionist..  if we have to play with a clas like that u will surely lose more and more followers</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>ill keep play this game dunno how long still... just couse u made a great game with eq1 but trust... the nerfing isnt a solution specially when is dictaded to stop player with skills to kill hard mobs....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i dont care if u want to keep root broken..or waht else..but right now illusionist have no role...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>at least would be cool to see a post on this forum where said: "we are working to give u role: pls be patient"</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>

[Phimos]

<P>PLEASE EVERYONE: PETITION AND FILE A BUG REPORT.</P> <P> </P> <P>I think they overlooked the ramifications of their changes and they will fix it in a hotfix.  They need to know about this asap though.  My theory is that "small chance of breaking" is based on the spell level (47) for teminal root.  A level 47 illusionist can't hit for 650 points (prismatic havoc) and if they are hitting for 650 dps on a second to second basis, then yes, the root should break.  </P> <P>When I solo, I average around 500 dps and in group, around 350 dps.  Chanters have very high dps now when well equipped and with spell upgrades.  I can understand them wanting to make our root a little less stable, because it is a real snoozer to nuke 50^^^ mobs at 35 meters in permfrost or sol eye when you know that it will never break because the mob is deeeep green.  </P> <P>I have never posted anything on these boards but I had to come here today.  This Sh*t is seriously broken.  I can't even use root to crowd control, like root and run away when I get aggro from debuffing a mob.  As soon as the mob hits me, my Adept III pet hits it and root is gone.  I've had the root disappear from maintained spell window before  my 0.5 second recover time is up and on to next spell in cue. </P> <P>Completely unfair and unwarranted.  If the change was meant for game balance, please re-balance it so that we can solo comparable to any other class.</P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks for your time, because I know that the Devs will be lurking here.</P> <P>Dreww, 56 illusionist, Najena. </P>

[lik]

<DIV>i agree  i feel  like  i  want  the   past  2 month  of  my  gaming life  back........i  am  very  honest  when i say this -->.i really really  enjoy this  game.........but  with  what  has happend to my enchanter  <.ie     live  16 >......i want  to  log in and  play....but i know  if  i do, i will not  want to play this  game  even more (</DIV>

[K3mik4l]

So the prerevamp root went live regardless...Oh well, gonna harvest some rares and get agi and sta gear made.

[Pil]

<P>Ok, well trying to solo, i wasted over 50 casts of root over a couple hours.  Longest one lasted ~5 seconds, was a white con lvl 50 solo mob, and only my pet was on it.  If i had pet + construct, or a dot or 2, usually would be broken before the casting animation was done.  I dont solo heroics, i solo solo mobs.  Sometimes pairs of single downs, get an add here and there, but i am an enchanter, i can handle adds.  Well i could.  Without root, and no way to deaggro, or get my pet to aggro, after i mezzed something twice, it was glued to me permanently.  Stun is an option, except the durations on the stuns all got shortened too.</P> <P>Some might think its funny, that as a CC class, i am now more worried about getting an add then anyone else.  Because i CANT handle it anymore.</P> <P>Pilan 50 Illusionist Ogguk</P>

[Pins]

Soo, every other class can successfully kill Grey Level 48 Heroics at 60, right?Welp, we can't.So I went into Miragul's Managerie to do some quick testing of the root-nerf. Cast root, cast brainburst, broken root, wait for recast, cast root again, a tic from brainburst breaks it after the 2nd tic.Lovely. A Master I root, and I feel it's WORSE than pre-revamp. Our root pre-revamp was better than this.