Please respond to my desperate plea to leave our roots alone (spells forum)

[Dystr]

I state that i can only speak for coercers because i don't know enough about your abilities to speak for you guys.  The thread is in the spells and abilities forum.  its probably pointless...but who knows. <div></div>

[zit]

<P>thanks Dystrax for putting this thread up in the abilities forum.</P> <DIV>as long as there are enchanter willing to spend time and effort to voice our concerns, there will be reason to hope.</DIV>

[Aelore]

They need to leave our root alone, or else give us more dps or something.  This will put us back to where we were before the combat upgrade....I don't get it... <div></div>

[Pogball]

Agree. This just seems like it will just take us back to pre-cu solo'ablity and worse and i for one will finally admit defeat and hang up my chanter and play something else. Going back to pre-cu is not an option for me.I am starting to believe SoE just dont want chanters in the game. All this makes me so angry after all the effort i've put into my chanter. I'm sorry if i posted this several times in different boards and threads but it seems obvious SoE are not listening to us or they would start with whats wrong with our class not with the nerfing the root.Damil, 57 AfkBuffbot, Splitpaw

[Zebsen]

<DIV>Can someone refresh my memory on how the level of the root affects damage?  If I remember correctly, for most roots (non-enchanter), upgrading the spell helped increase the chance the root would hold through damage.  Can someone confirm this?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If that's true, what bothers me about this whole change to the spell is that Lockeye is nerfing root based on someone who obviously can and will upgrade gear to at least adept 3 quality.  If the spell is made to break at that quality level on damage so that named heroics aren't possible with uber gear, what will this do to those that can't upgrade past adept 1 roots?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>A lot of speculation, I know.  We need to play it and test it, but I have fears that nerfing the ubers soloing heroics is going to hurt the rest of the enchanter class a lot worse than it will the intended targets.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess there's not much to do but play and find out.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zebsen Chanter</DIV> <DIV>Level 50 Illusionist</DIV> <DIV>Lavastorm</DIV>

[Legionus1]

Im making posters and circling the devs with:  hell no, leave are roots alone!!! Level 52 Illusionst Runneye <div></div>

[Travelin'Man]

<DIV>Well, our root is definately nerfed. Adept 3 Terrifying Vision broke on every encounter vs one up even con solo opponent. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So much for soloing...it was a good 2 months. Now we are back where we were before the combat update. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Not a happy camper here!</DIV>

[SunT]

<DIV>Thank God I am 60 already, I really, honestly feel for you guys who are still exp'n.</DIV>

[SpeedyBuff]

<font size="4"><font face="Arial"> I tried an Adept 3 Lock Mind on a level 37^^ Heroic and I'm level 46.  I'm dead.  Four times in a row.   My personae can't take the beating, neither can I.  Not fun.  Not fun at all.  Please restore our root back as it was before LU16. </font></font>

[Phimos]

<DIV> <P>PLEASE EVERYONE: PETITION AND FILE A BUG REPORT.</P> <P> </P> <P>I think they overlooked the ramifications of their changes and they will fix it in a hotfix.  They need to know about this asap though.  My theory is that "small chance of breaking" is based on the spell level (47) for teminal root.  A level 47 illusionist can't hit for 650 points (prismatic havoc) and if they are hitting for 650 dps on a second to second basis, then yes, the root should break.  </P> <P>When I solo, I average around 500 dps and in group, around 350 dps.  Chanters have very high dps now when well equipped and with spell upgrades.  I can understand them wanting to make our root a little less stable, because it is a real snoozer to nuke 50^^^ mobs at 35 meters in permfrost or sol eye when you know that it will never break because the mob is deeeep green.  </P> <P>I have never posted anything on these boards but I had to come here today.  This Sh*t is seriously broken.  I can't even use root to crowd control, like root and run away when I get aggro from debuffing a mob.  As soon as the mob hits me, my Adept III pet hits it and root is gone.  I've had the root disappear from maintained spell window before  my 0.5 second recover time is up and on to next spell in cue. </P> <P>Completely unfair and unwarranted.  If the change was meant for game balance, please re-balance it so that we can solo comparable to any other class.</P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks for your time, because I know that the Devs will be lurking here.</P> <P>Dreww, 56 illusionist, Najena. </P></DIV>

[Pil]

<DIV>If the issue is heroics, make the change so that root can drop from damage with heroics.  Solo content shouldnt have a double whammy chance to break root, while sorcerors still have only break on damage.  The whole premise is wrong, in actual use, the crowd control classes have a less effective root.  Theirs breaks on damage, but they can 2 or 3 shot a mob, 2 or 3 shots to break.  Ours can break still on resists, as well as on damage, and it takes how many spells to kill a solo mob of equal level?  At 50, i nuke for 350 dd.  I'd die of old age before i killed something.  So i stack pets (personae and construct), and stack dots (withering, lobo, color shower, and psychotic spectrum, i am lvl 50).  From that perspective, the quicker damage on color shower is also a nerf, beyond the 25% less duration of stifle.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just sillyness.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Read the reasoning for the change too.  Lockeye "saw" a coercer kill 2 heroic ^^^ while mezzing 2 other seperate encounters, and so we all get nerfed.  Watch a bruiser do it, and its all working as intended...</DIV>

[evil_drag]

Yep no fun :smileymad: /feedback that mothrfu*kers :smileymad:

[Becky Sterling]

<P>I can nothing but agree with you all. Soloing with an illusionist is now totally out of the question. Seeing that we've got armor like a warlock/wizard, but the our dps is lower than of a platemail tank, a solo-con doubleup our level will kill us in 1 or 2 hits when they break the root, which they do all the time thanks to most of our DoT attacks.</P> <P>Enchanters having the best root in the game makes sense because of the lack of dps. A wizzy/warlock can rely on their massive amounts of firepower to keep them alive. What can we rely on after we've landed 4 DoTs on a mob? Mezz don't work since they continously take damage. Root don't work for the same reason now... Our pet does not hold aggro without the root alas making it completely useless.</P> <P>All this has been said previously on the test feedback forums, and probably reached Sony from the test server in-game /bug /feedback reports too, but do they listen or even care?</P> <P>I don't usually complain on forums, but this is outrageous. I stopped playing my illusionist before the major combat changes seeing that they could barely solo cackling cadavers (22-23 solos) at level 30...</P> <P>As you said, posts like these are nothing but a waste of time and effort, they're not gonna listen, as usual. Since the combat patch it's been great, but now it's over. Back to being the most useless class in EverQuest 2 again <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />(</P> <P> </P>