lets sum it up

[zit]

<DIV> <P>lets sum it up.</P> <P>there have been some changes with huge impact to the illusionist class. all in all i would say we are almost at the state where we always wanted to be.</P> <P>our mez got improved. although it was more or less sufficient as it is on live atm i still like the changes. feeling a bit like someone who is adicted to shoes... the more the better, even if they cannot wear all at the same time. :smileywink: being able to chain cast AE mez and not getting mezed myself (even if its only affecting 4 targets now ) is something we have hoped for for a long time. faster cast time and recast on mez in general was wished by many also.</P> <P>our stuns got improved. this i would consider to be the best change we get out of this all. recast shortend from 1 min to 30 sec and duration increased from 9 sec to 11 sec and our AE stun made a noticeable duration also, is nothing we should underestimate. stuns are useful in much more situations than mez.</P> <P>our stifle got a huge improvement. the change to Color Shower with faster cast time, a bit faster recast, longer duration is absolutely great and the high power cost seems to be justified now. Same for Mind Drain . Both also work to some extend on epics now, which will give us a new role in raids.</P> <P>root got improved. it still got the fast cast time but its max duration is now much longer than the recast. actually duration is longer than it is on live atm. even if it has a chance to break on damage, its still an improvement.</P> <P> </P> <P>so basically all our CC spells got improved, some of them significantly and beside a slight overkill in mez skills i would say that these changes have been long overdue and exactly what illusionist have asked for. Also other things have been addressed and changed to the better:</P> <P>our buffs, although not better than other mages still give us the feeling they are worth to cast now. (Dynamism...)</P> <P>tedious rebuffing with breeze is a thing of the past. utilizing all our power regen abilities we still will be best power regen class after coercer. but we fall behind bard now if only keep breeze up (depending on lvl and upgrade of spell), which doesnt seem right to me. i can live with it though.</P> <P>we do not have to tank ourselves when soloing but got a Doppelgaenger to help us.</P> <P>we get some new and unique spells like Spellshield and Fear of Death which could create some distinction between classes. (although i can imagine that they will get nerfed soon).</P> <P> </P> <P>this leaves 2 topics on our wish list.</P> <P>one of them are illusions. important for the fun factor of the class, but i wouldnt put it top priority.</P> <P>second one is dps. considering that only one single spell got changed (Psychotic Spectrum) and it drops us back to crap dps again (in comparison to other classes, maybe not to live) should make us aware how bad our over all damage really has been. </P> <P>if we could get some improvement here - and i ask those on beta to pls raise our concerns to the Devs - i would feel an almost perfect class. reasonable i would consider an increase of scorching beam of at least 50% and an increase of Psychotic Spectrum of at least 100%. this would still be less than what we had before on beta and would still leave us far behind most other classes but at least would be somewhat worth to cast.</P> <P> </P> <P>edit to add: after having a look at other classes spells again (with focus on damage potential of healers and mages) i more and more think that it would be appropriate and necessary to change Psychotic Spectrum back to its original damage and bring our other spells up at par with it. everything else just wont cut it.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P></DIV> <P>Message Edited by zitha on <SPAN class=date_text>09-07-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:22 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by zitha on <span class=date_text>09-07-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:50 AM</span>

[Secret-P]

<P>Well, i play a 49 enc as my alternate, and at first when i read the illusionist changes, i could have wept! And i felt soooo bad for those who had theillusionist as their mains. But now, it looks much better =)</P> <P>Grats all on the win here =)</P> <P>Ive had so much fun on my illusionist on live, and i am glad to see the fun will continue. I have always been of the opinion that enc = utility.  I did not make mine to dps.</P>

[Catl]

You forgot that our group invisi got major nerfage.  That was actually one of our most useful spells.  Our power regen ability received major nerfage also from the raid point of view.  It was very useful to buff all the healers in a raid.  The 10 sec duration on group mez with a 1 min recast took that spell right out of the game, except for cast and run use.   We are ending up a low dps, generic mage class.  Glad someone is happy.

[Catl]

Disregard my comments on the group mez if it makes it to live play but I would gladly trade it for our old group invisi any day/

[KaynanEmberwood]

<span><blockquote><hr>Catlea wrote:Disregard my comments on the group mez if it makes it to live play but I would gladly trade it for our old group invisi any day/ <div></div><hr></blockquote> Bah!  With as many mezzes as we have now I plan on running down to naggy visible and just mezzing everything along the way!   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Barakas]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KaynanEmberwood wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Catlea wrote:<BR>Disregard my comments on the group mez if it makes it to live play but I would gladly trade it for our old group invisi any day/ <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bah!  With as many mezzes as we have now I plan on running down to naggy visible and just mezzing everything along the way!   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I use to have a blast when our tank accidentally pulled more than one group....keeping 5 or 6 mobs locked down....ahhhhh, now that's where our power lies.  With the changes upcoming....*I* may be the one 'accidentally' pulling extra groups <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I wonder exactly how many mobs I'll be able to keep locked down if the current mez changes go live next week.</P> <P>Sakarab</P>

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Barakas wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KaynanEmberwood wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Catlea wrote:<BR>Disregard my comments on the group mez if it makes it to live play but I would gladly trade it for our old group invisi any day/ <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Bah!  With as many mezzes as we have now I plan on running down to naggy visible and just mezzing everything along the way!   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I use to have a blast when our tank accidentally pulled more than one group....keeping 5 or 6 mobs locked down....ahhhhh, now that's where our power lies.  With the changes upcoming....*I* may be the one 'accidentally' pulling extra groups <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I wonder exactly how many mobs I'll be able to keep locked down if the current mez changes go live next week.</P> <P>Sakarab</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>we just lost one mez ....  so there goes that idea /sigh<BR>

[SunT]

<P>I really think we are just down to a bump in DPS to finish this up.  </P> <P>We have effective CC.</P> <P>We have decent Utility not as good as it should be IMO but not bad.</P> <P>We have a big increase in our Stuns(my highest priority) and roots.</P> <P>Stifle and Drain look on par and balanced.</P> <P>We will be able to solo effectively.</P> <P> </P> <P>That leaves DPS.  If they bump the Fast Cast Nuke to 800-1000 we are gtg.  Or bring them to 500-700 and triple the recently nerfed Spectrum.</P> <P>I think with those bumps it will be a wrap and I will shut up and be content with the class feeling as though we got a fair deal.</P> <P> </P>