Spell upgrades (and pics)

[Sever]

<P>I had just finished doing a major t5 spell upgrade spree and I felt compelled to share what upgraded on what spells n such with the rest of the community...So here goes (hope it works!)<BR><BR><IMG src="http://www.[Removed for Content].com/matthew2185/eq2pics/EQ2_000194.jpg"></P> <P> </P> <P><BR>Anyways, hope that helps in your future spell upgrades.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Saden<BR>50 Illusionist<BR>Officer of Genesis<BR>Highkeep<BR></P> <DIV>**EDIT** Found where the lost pics ran off to! I'll have to try and find a better host server, but theyre back for now. **EDIT**</DIV><p>Message Edited by Sever on <span class=date_text>06-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:48 PM</span>

[yodas_bud]

<DIV>Thats a brilliant post, very useful! (when i get to a higher level)</DIV>

[zit]

Just keep in mind that spell description not always shows what the spell is actually doing.

[Archai]

nice work, i'm jealous <div></div>

[KaltenAlTh]

<DIV> <DIV>Dam 3 master and 5 adept3, that's impressive upgrades.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm jelous.</DIV></DIV>

[Aedos]

<div></div><div></div>Here are some more pics tried not to get any duplicates of what Sever already showed in those pics. Anyway not all are tier 5 but all have end game uses expect maybe speechless but thought you guys might wanna see what master1 of every illusionists favorite spell looks like <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="http://millsplace.com/eq/images/EQ2_000085.jpg"><img src="http://millsplace.com/eq/images/EQ2_000086.jpg">couple new spells...<img src="http://millsplace.com/eq/images/fewmore.jpg">Edit: now you can actually see the pics :pEdit2: changed pic hosting site thanks to MillsFairchild offering to host them and added couple new spells<a target="_blank" href=""><span></span></a><p>Message Edited by Aedosen on <span class="date_text">05-08-2005</span><span class="time_text">10:41 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Aedosen on <span class="date_text">06-20-2005</span><span class="time_text">04:05 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Aedosen on <span class=date_text>06-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:06 PM</span>

[Archai]

That is extremely helpful... thanks for your work, I've got an idea of what to look forward to!

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<DIV>great post ... will definatly use it as a referance </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>5 stars </DIV>

[Dufre]

<P><IMG src="http://home.twcny.rr.com/doogez/aspect60.jpg"><IMG src="http://home.twcny.rr.com/doogez/aneurysm.jpg"></P> <P>  </P> <P>Legerity master is 66% haste.  I saw it for sale one time.</P> <P>Signet of intuition our only agility buff lvl 12 at master gives 14 agility.  2 more then adept 1 not really worth alot of money.</P> <P>I still keep signet up if im in a mostly melee group.</P> <P>--Edited to reflect stats at level 50 on May 18th,2005</P> <P> </P> <P>Message Edited by Dufrest on <SPAN class=date_text>05-10-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:52 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Dufrest on <SPAN class=date_text>05-18-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:43 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Dufrest on <span class=date_text>05-18-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:48 AM</span>

[MillsFairchild]

<div></div>Noooo!  The first couple images finally appear to be broken.  /sigh  I've been using these as an upgrade reference since they were posted! Does anyone have these saved, or a cache of them? If so, send me a PM to let me know so I can mirror them on my server. <div></div><p>Message Edited by MillsFairchild on <span class=date_text>06-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:31 AM</span>

[Sever]

<DIV>Thanks for bumping the thread up, I almost didnt see it! I'll look into why they aren't showing up and get back to you soonish :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=136679110" target=_blank>Saden</A></DIV> <DIV>50 Illusionist</DIV> <DIV>Officer of <A href="www.eq2genesis.com" target=_blank>Genesis</A></DIV> <DIV>Highkeep</DIV>

[Pins]

<blockquote><hr>Sever wrote:<DIV>Thanks for bumping the thread up, I almost didnt see it! I'll look into why they aren't showing up and get back to you soonish :smileyhappy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=136679110" target=_blank>Saden</A></DIV> <DIV>50 Illusionist</DIV> <DIV>Officer of <A href="www.eq2genesis.com" target=_blank>Genesis</A></DIV> <DIV>Highkeep</DIV><hr></blockquote>They look like they're working now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[MillsFairchild]

<span><blockquote><hr>Sever wrote:<div>Thanks for bumping the thread up, I almost didnt see it! I'll look into why they aren't showing up and get back to you soonish :smileyhappy:</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=136679110" target="_blank">Saden</a></div> <div>50 Illusionist</div> <div>Officer of <a href="www.eq2genesis.com" target="_blank">Genesis</a></div> <div>Highkeep</div><hr></blockquote>Thanks!  They are working now! But the irony is... my bumping the thread to get the <i>original </i>two images working caused the images in a <i>subsequent </i>reply to hit their bandwith cap.  lol.</span><div></div>

[SunT]

<P>What is the max per tick regen we give at 50?</P> <P> </P>

[Vurin]

Insight master 1 is 60 <div></div>

[MillsFairchild]

I picked this master up the other day for 1p.  It's a HUGE upgrade to the Adept III of this spell posted above.  It has a lower health cost and provides nearly double power replenishment. <img src="http://www.millsplace.com/temp/eq/siphonselfmaster.gif"> <div></div>

[Sever]

Nice one above! Thanks for the info. My friend has master1 Dynamism and it does 178-288, but I use Master1 Intensity, which does 20 damage less at 158-266. Have Master1 Capture Mind and Master1 Convincing Regalia, no real change on effectiveness, but it could be there! Have Master1 Dismay and Mind Drain that ill post later when I can get the ss's taken. In that case, I guess ill just repost the masters since some spell descriptions have been tweaked recently to more accurately reflect what they actually do. <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=136679110" target=_blank>Saden</a> 50 Illusionist Officer of <a href="www.eq2genesis.com" target=_blank>Genesis</a> Highkeep <div></div>

[Hermex D'illusionai]

That master Siphon Self is nice. 407 health to get 686 power is a pretty nice conversion rate.

[nvrpost]

Don't have a hosting site but thought i'd add the one i haven't seen in the thread: Dismay M1 = -9 to abilities and no shortage of agro <div></div>

[Jaxidi]

<DIV>If anybody wants some pics hosted but can't host them, please email them to me and I'll put them up and make them available:<BR>[email protected]</DIV>

[SunT]

<DIV>I see Lobotmize adept 3 does 73 plus 73 per tick, and master 1 does 90 plus 56 per tick...?  So is the upgrade to Lobotmize only an upgrade in the initial direct damage?  Or is it a per tick upgrade as well.  Secondary effects seem the same.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mind Drain adept 3 is here but i don't see master 1.  What I think is great about this spell is hte reduction in caster level.  Does this scale?  What is it at adept one?  Master 1?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone know?</DIV>

[zit]

<P>spell description of Lobotomize is not correct. its doing 90 per tick.</P> <P>mind drain at adept 1 is reducing  caster skill by 4, same as adept 3. at least thats what the description says, hard to test if description is correct.</P>

[Pins]

These pictures were taken before they fixed descriptions. That is why they are displaying incorrect values.

[Stealth Status]

<DIV>Hey you sound like only other illusionist who knows what he's doing I've encountered on the boards yet.... Nice spell list but you got some ones you definately don't need...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>eq2players.com search for Gigas and look at my profile if you care to see my master and a3 spell list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my favorite master I have so far is Siphon Self ..... sooo rocks...  but Legerity m1 is nice for the 66% tooo..... I passed on buying Devitalizing stare master 1 cause i had a the a3 and the power  inscrease to group members was only 2 per tick higher...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I need need Insight master 1, it has yet to be discovered on my server.</DIV>

[Flipmode]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Stealth Status wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hey you sound like only other illusionist who knows what he's doing I've encountered on the boards yet.... Nice spell list but you got some ones you definately don't need...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>eq2players.com search for Gigas and look at my profile if you care to see my master and a3 spell list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>my favorite master I have so far is Siphon Self ..... sooo rocks...  but Legerity m1 is nice for the 66% tooo..... I passed on buying Devitalizing stare master 1 cause i had a the a3 and the power  inscrease to group members was only 2 per tick higher...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I need need Insight master 1, it has yet to be discovered on my server.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Best Illusionist on any server but thinks haste actually rocks....</P> <P>Well since it doesnt work on specials, it pretty much is worthless except for long fights where power is an issue.</P>

[MillsFairchild]

<span><blockquote><hr>Flipmode wrote:<p>Best Illusionist on any server but thinks haste actually rocks....</p> <p>Well since it doesnt work on specials, it pretty much is worthless except for long fights where power is an issue. </p><hr></blockquote>Just because you have a harder time seeing it's effect on damage output, doesn't mean it's not having one. I also play a level 44 zerker, and </span><span>my buffs provide me with a constant 67% haste (anywhere between 109% and 149% after combat arts/berserk).  </span><span>I assure you that haste makes a large difference in my damage output on any fight over 20 seconds... which is most fights worth fighting. Sure, it's influence varies greatly between each melee sub-class.  But to call our haste 'worthless' is silly.</span><div></div>

[Azamien-Dermorate]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MillsFairchild wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Flipmode wrote: <P>Best Illusionist on any server but thinks haste actually rocks....</P> <P>Well since it doesnt work on specials, it pretty much is worthless except for long fights where power is an issue.<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Just because you have a harder time seeing it's effect on damage output, doesn't mean it's not having one.<BR><BR>I also play a level 44 zerker, and </SPAN><SPAN>my buffs provide me with a constant 67% haste (anywhere between 109% and 149% after combat arts/berserk).  </SPAN><SPAN>I assure you that haste makes a large difference in my damage output on any fight over 20 seconds... which is most fights worth fighting.<BR><BR>Sure, it's influence varies greatly between each melee sub-class.  But to call our haste 'worthless' is silly.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Its not hard to see.  Its been well documented on both our forums and the coercer forums that haste provides marginal benfits and is highly overrated.  There has been dozens of threads and tons of log parses conducted by both enchanter classes that prove this preaty well.   </DIV>

[SunT]

<P>IF you are in a long fight AND you happen to be grouped with a bunch of Mele AND they run out of power...it is a good thing to have.  When a DPS Mele goes down and gets a rez, it has big effects on their DPS.  It isn't often that I see a Scout or a Zerk go OOP in a fight with Crack on.</P> <P>Not a broad area there.</P> <P>My Pally is a Power Hog...class deficiency...if I am grouped with a Chanter I don't run OOP anyway.  If I am MT and I have a Chanter in group then the Mana Shroud/Mana Stone is much more effective than Haste.</P> <P>I am glad we have it but it is overrated IMO.  If we could cast outside of group then that would be another thing.  If INT increases damage in the near future, then should you put Illusionist with the Mele or the Casters?  I would have to think casters getting more damage is going to be more important.</P> <P> </P>

[Stealth Status]

<DIV>I wouldn't say so at all, in my group which usually has one defiler and 4 scouts, all the extra haste to each of the 4 scouts, adds up some pretty good extra dps, also, there are bonus non special hits, that haste makes hit more often.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Work on specials... so you suggest having haste effect the recast timers?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>you sound like you just want to [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] and moan about how we aren't super men.... welll sure would be nice it haste helped the timers... but by your logic I could take any spell in the game and show why it is worthless.</DIV>

[Stealth Status]

<DIV>and buddy at least get it rite, I said SIPHON SELF SOOOO ROCKS..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>in a more moderate tone if you read up, I said "and haste is nice"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You all got a serious tude problem with me on these boards.....does the tagline really bother everyone so much ??? boo hooo.</DIV>

[Impetus]

<span><blockquote><hr>Stealth Status wrote:<div>and buddy at least get it rite, I said SIPHON SELF SOOOO ROCKS..</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>in a more moderate tone if you read up, I said "and haste is nice"</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>You all got a serious tude problem with me on these boards.....does the tagline really bother everyone so much ??? boo hooo.</div><hr></blockquote>It's not your sig, it's your sig combined with your rude and abrasive posting style. Or as you put it, your "serious tude problem." If someone like Saden had that as their sig, we would say, "Haha that Saden, what a card." With you, it's one more tick in the annoyances column.</span><div></div>

[Stealth Status]

<DIV>fair enough. your my kinda dood!</DIV>

[Impetus]

See, now that was funny. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Seriously, lower your "I'm so great and if anyone has a problem they suck" down half a notch, and I'm sure people will have no problem with you. And they'll find your sig amusing, too. The illusionist community is pretty nice if you give us a chance. (I think we have to be nice - we're too few to be mean.) <div></div>

[Stealth Status]

<DIV>well yeah, ORIGINALLY, the sig was supposed to be sort of a self making fun of, uber [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] joke... but seems alot of people got upset, so of course, always the instigator, i let them take it where they want to.... ehehehheh.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>you are cool , because you didn't act like a be- atch... you just bluntly said what you thought.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>while everyone else is like, "Soo your the best?/ no way/// i hate uber people/ your so vain/ your such a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]/ etc etc etc..."  the more it riles them up, the longer the tag got... and the bolder the type face.... come on.... haven't you lived real life guys?!?!?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If someone is bothering you the way to get it to stop is by ignoring them... not by playing right into their tricks..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>