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Dorog
10-26-2005, 07:01 AM
<DIV>Hello.  I apologize if this topic has been done before.  A friend and I are thinking about trying a warlock/wizard or a warlock/warlock combo and I was wondering if anyone else has done it before.  I'd be very interested in hearing how well it's worked, or hasn't (trying something different from the tank/healer we have now :smileyhappy: ).  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Dorogus</DIV>

Soloras
10-26-2005, 07:43 AM
<P>Well, I guess it could have some upsides for a while..  The two biggest imho being the ability to double-root mobs, and of course the insane amounts of damage you could do as a duo.  One the same note, it could get really annoying too.  </P> <P>The group buffs we get as warlocks aren't really that good for much other than increased poison mitigation and a slightly larger power pool.  Really not worth doubling, assuming the buffs will even stack.  Then you've got the spell casting times =(  It almost becomes a race to jam on all the spell icons and try to get a spell off before the mob is dead.   Constantly seeting "Target is not alive" or "No eligible target" gets real annoying real fast.  Next up is the loot/drops.  There are a pretty wide variety of drops from nameds and random mobs, but in a war/war combo only VLA and  +int items really that important.  There are a lot of drops you'll get that are utterly useless to either of you (for anything more than selling purposes).   Of course the competition for the items you do get could be fun :smileywink: .   The last reason i can think of NOT to go with that combo is that you will still come across a ton of mobs and quests you won't be able to do as a duo without either a healer, a tank, or both.</P> <P>Those are the main issues that come to mind at the moment.  Overall though I'd still say play the toons you want to play and have fun. </P> <P> </P>

Nerga
10-26-2005, 09:49 AM
<P>I personly grinded to 60 alot as a dou with a warden.</P> <P>And many followed my path on my server and loved it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>1.Warden roots are very strong now ,ohh sweet bony grasp memories.</P> <P>2.Always nice to get a heal /cure <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>3.Warden DPS is ok and helps the pace of the grind.</P> <P>4.Wardens are pretty power efficiant healers which helps the pace of the grind.</P> <P>5.They have a regen buff they can put on a group member <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Basicly I used to lead with skeletal grasp and then he rerooted right away.My root was just to get into combat mode he was assisting me all the time having me as target for nuking and healing.</P> <P>Our roots now are great for crowd control ,short recast and long duration.We had up to 4-5 groups of heroic adds.But fast root&forget from both of us and they all died with us almost never dying <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <DIV>Best spots are statue court in living tombs,silent city entrance & priestess court in tombs. (for the lower 50's can do the area near the burnable oily wall)</DIV> <DIV>Just kill hordes of green/blue mobs for mad xp <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>***** EDIT****</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Reread your post.</DIV> <DIV>Wizy/warlock used to be amazing pre dof ,stil works nicly now but not nearly as effective since both our roots were nerfed badly.</DIV> <DIV>You will still have to reroot alot and spend mad amounts of power on it.I personly think that warden/warlock is probably the best combo for a warlock post dof.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Nergall on <span class=date_text>10-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:52 PM</span>

Spag
10-27-2005, 08:30 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nergall wrote:<BR> <P>I personly grinded to 60 alot as a dou with a warden.</P> <P>And many followed my path on my server and loved it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>1.Warden roots are very strong now ,ohh sweet bony grasp memories.</P> <P>2.Always nice to get a heal /cure <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>3.Warden DPS is ok and helps the pace of the grind.</P> <P>4.Wardens are pretty power efficiant healers which helps the pace of the grind.</P> <P>5.They have a regen buff they can put on a group member <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Basicly I used to lead with skeletal grasp and then he rerooted right away.My root was just to get into combat mode he was assisting me all the time having me as target for nuking and healing.</P> <P>Our roots now are great for crowd control ,short recast and long duration.We had up to 4-5 groups of heroic adds.But fast root&forget from both of us and they all died with us almost never dying <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <DIV>Best spots are statue court in living tombs,silent city entrance & priestess court in tombs. (for the lower 50's can do the area near the burnable oily wall)</DIV> <DIV>Just kill hordes of green/blue mobs for mad xp <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>***** EDIT****</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Reread your post.</DIV> <DIV>Wizy/warlock used to be amazing pre dof ,stil works nicly now but not nearly as effective since both our roots were nerfed badly.</DIV> <DIV>You will still have to reroot alot and spend mad amounts of power on it.I personly think that warden/warlock is probably the best combo for a warlock post dof.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Nergall on <SPAN class=date_text>10-25-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:52 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Funny I was going to recommend the same thing about being with a Warden.  I regularly group my warden with a wizzie or two and we simply own.  If root breaks, or is resisted, one of them can pick up the root, until I can recast.  I can also heal when needed.</P> <P>After the revamp, Wardens basically seem to be a healing sorceror.  Not near as good damage, but we compliment Warlocks and Wizzies extremely well.</P>

Tanatus
10-27-2005, 11:48 PM
<P>Imo best choice for duo is coercer</P> <P>Coercer bring on table - maximum possible power regenration in-combat just via coercers spells. Coercer have very good CC tools. Coercer can neutralize casters heroic mobs (Spell Lash/Mind Bend/Tyrannical Mind/16s duration Stifle). Coercer have godly good root. Coercer can nearly infinitive keep encounter mezed be it single mob or pack as long as it single encounter</P> <P></P>

Amra-c0d
10-28-2005, 05:23 PM
<DIV>Me and my friend have duoed all the way up together so far necro/warlock.  We compliment eachother perfectly and can down anything under epic that is in our level range.  Groups of heroics are a breeze with my pet taunting and us aeing.  We both can solo ^^^ so added together we take them down much faster as well.  On very hard stuff I can just keep rooting and life tapping while tapping my pet for mana and feed him health to use his health to mana spells.  </DIV>

Dart
10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
<P>Conj/Warlock roots over rated) at 56, I duo'd the Vault instance in Clefts with a 54 conj friend (Yes named included) I bet we could duo Hidden cache now at 57/55 respectively.</P> <P>Paly/Warlock Yum! Not much to say here, tank, heals, wards, rez, LoHs... and most importantly Amends) Put that with our DPS, ya nice combo. Try this sometime. LT, third section, have Paly group two or three groups of mobs, cast gift line, CM, AF, Devestation and if time cast AE dd, lol watch the damage spam go crazy.</P>

Ma
11-05-2005, 08:48 PM
So, does anyone have any experience with a warlock - warlock duo?  I'm thinking of doing what the orginal poster was thinking and was wondering how that duo (ie warlock - warlock :smileytongue: ) would fair.

Spag
11-08-2005, 02:47 AM
<DIV>I mentored down to 23 to help out a guildie warlock, between the two of us we were ripping through groups of skellies with ease.  Just carry good food.</DIV>

Xamoth
11-14-2005, 05:29 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanatus wrote:<BR> <P>Imo best choice for duo is coercer</P> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I don't know about the best, but my girlfriend and I are having a ball with this combo. She concentrates on rooting and mezzing and I do what I do best: damage. Now that AOEs and group damage spells won't break mez, it's working great so far.<BR>

Iranic
11-14-2005, 04:27 PM
I duo with my wife, she's a 57 wizard, I am a 56 warlock. Nothing kills faster that this combo with the exception, maybe, of a warlock/warlock. I am talking about heroics of course, since solo mobs (group or not) die in one Devastation cast, no matter the number. Heals are not really needed. And wizards brings in some nice things: evac, decent AEs with  snare (nice for then root breaks), huge burst damage on mobs that need to die fast (^^^ heroics, nameds).<div></div>