What are our 4 master 2 choices at lvl 54?

[CrimsonAveng]

<DIV>Dont want to make all 4 of them adept 3 and waste a rare before hand. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[Arrowheart]

<DIV>(4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Netheros  - <FONT color=#3333ff>Level 54 Training Option<BR></FONT>(50) Dark Nebula - <FONT color=#3333ff>Level 54 Training Option</FONT> <BR>(52) Shadowed Pillaging - <FONT color=#3333ff>Level 54 Training Option <BR></FONT>(54) Seal of Ebon Thought - <FONT color=#3333ff>Level 54 Training Option</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><BR> </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000><FONT color=#0033ff>Best 2 options seem to be Dark Nebula or Seal of Ebon Thought (+33 to casting skills), however it is now debated on its effectiveness as it acts more like a buff than actually affecting casting level vs straight out skill.</FONT></FONT></DIV>

[Kalel]

<P>Yea horrible, horrible options besides Dark Nebula (if you dont already have Master I) </P> <P>Can we get Nil Absolution instead of Pillaging or Netheros?</P>

[Zara]

<DIV>This L54 choice is driving me nuts heh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First do we still have a choice for Netheros? I read conflicting information</DIV> <DIV>suggesting its no longer available. If it isn't do we only have three choices?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am L53 and have Dark Nebula Master 1. From what the developers have stated</DIV> <DIV>about Ebon Thought being a buff, it seems not worth it to me to make that Master 2.</DIV> <DIV>I am doubtful you would even know a difference between master 2 and Adept 3.</DIV> <DIV>Others who have chosen the Ebon Thought haven't been impressed either from</DIV> <DIV>what I have read.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My choices would then be Dark Pillaging or Netheros, which Netheros would win</DIV> <DIV>hands down.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Despite people saying their Netheros doesn't live 10 seconds, I find him very useful</DIV> <DIV>fighting solo and he does live quite long and do alot of damage. Of course I have</DIV> <DIV>him Adept 3. Seems not a bad choice to me if the choice still exists.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Zarang</DIV>

[Kalel]

You can still choose Netheros, Yes.

[Korpo]

I took Netheros, since I already had Dark Nebula at mas1, and generally run the level 12 int/str buff instead of Seal of Something. If they ever change it so it provides a real benefit, I'll probably respec and take Ebon Thought. The power drain one... no thanks. <div></div>

[tiki-jiki]

Anyone know the damage difference between Master 2 and Adept 3 Dark Nebula? <div></div>

[Kalel]

I remember Master 2 only being about 40 dmg more then Master 1.

[tiki-jiki]

Whats the damage on a master 1 with a 300+ int? i have an adept 3 and i might choose this. IF they ever make seal worth it i will respec and take it. <div></div>

[Deathspell]

*bump* What are the experiences so far? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Still considering Dark Nebula or Ebon Thought, eheh. <div></div>

[CrimsonAveng]

<P><FONT color=#66ff00>As I've stated before, the seal master 2 choice has been invaluable to me. It actually makes soloing harpies a viable option again.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>BTW for all of you who said I was full of 'crapola' or 'idiotic'?</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>Don't you feel like 'crapola'? You were WRONG and I was RIGHT?</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>Score: Crimson Avenger : 1      Angry Type A Warlocks who shouted him down: 0</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00><blows raspberry your way></FONT></P> <P> </P>

[Maelwy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> CrimsonAvenger wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>As I've stated before, the seal master 2 choice has been invaluable to me. It actually makes soloing harpies a viable option again.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>BTW for all of you who said I was full of 'crapola' or 'idiotic'?</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>Don't you feel like 'crapola'? You were WRONG and I was RIGHT?</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00>Score: Crimson Avenger : 1      Angry Type A Warlocks who shouted him down: 0</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66ff00></FONT></P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><FONT size=2> <P>rofl. You keep feeling good about yourself.</P> <P>I'll tell you my observations, and i've seen them echoed by other warlocks here.</P> <P>This buff is ineffective. period.</P> <P>on anything orange or lower, we don't have a problem with spells being outright resisted- with the exception of certain mobs (the cubes in gates raid for example) who have huge poison reists. but even then, the spell is hitting, but the damage/effect is being mitigated, the spell is NOT being resisted outright.</P> <P>Therefore, a buff that increases our spell stick rate means NOTHING.</P> <P>Now, if it increased our potential to damage immune/uber resist mobs, it might be worthwhile, but it doesn't.</P> <P>but you go ahead and cast it, i'll continue casting my lowbie int buff (13 int ftw) or save the concentration to apply nihilism to another tank in the raid.</P> <P>and i'll take bets that I out damage you accross the board.</P></FONT>

[Oakbr]

From the Test Server Update Notes for today: <b> Warlock changes: - Null Distortion was added to the Master II spell selection at level 54. - Shadowed Pillaging Master II was removed from the list.</b> Sadly, I used my pearl to have Null Distortion made into an Adept 3 last night <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Guess I'll be taking the AE upgrade, Dark Nebula, instead.

[Dart]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Oakbrow wrote:<BR>From the Test Server Update Notes for today:<BR><B><BR>Warlock changes:<BR>- Null Distortion was added to the Master II spell selection at level 54.<BR>- Shadowed Pillaging Master II was removed from the list.</B><BR><BR><BR>Sadly, I used my pearl to have Null Distortion made into an Adept 3 last night <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>Guess I'll be taking the AE upgrade, Dark Nebula, instead.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I read this and just sigh'd. Ya its nice they added it, can I have my Vandium back please SOE? Would much rather have M1 of ND than AD3, and if I could, I would go AD3 DN and M1 ND. Now my respec choice is eat the Vandium and change, or stick with AD3 ND? /geee thanks so much, kiss me before you screw me kk thnx.</P> <P> </P> <P>/rant mode on... I am really getting tired of these types of changes so late in the game. If invest a rare into a spell, I now have to second guess [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] SOE is going to do down the road, as a part of my decision making.</P>

[Nerga]

<P>I agree this should have been from the start,we lose not only the rare we invested but the rare we would invest in the other spell we choose since we gonna make it ad3 now (well I will anyway).</P> <P> </P> <P>But Im still happy about this cause at least we have the chance finaly.Rather now then never IMO.</P>