Resists

[Nerga]

<DIV>Well I gotta say.....that SOE either lied or messed up again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was in the silent city last night and a named ghost was up.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So we kiled it.BUT ...NON of my poison spells landed all ranging from ad3-m2...now you say debuf f right?..the debuff didnt land either.</DIV> <DIV>BUT icerflame and deter both hit him like any other mob.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So YES resits to specific dmg type STILL exsict in the game althoug they said they were removed...SIGH</DIV>

[Magiocracy]

<span><blockquote><hr>Nergall wrote:<div>Well I gotta say.....that SOE either lied or messed up again.</div> <div> </div> <div>I was in the silent city last night and a named ghost was up.</div> <div> </div> <div>So we kiled it.BUT ...NON of my poison spells landed all ranging from ad3-m2...now you say debuf f right?..the debuff didnt land either.</div> <div>BUT icerflame and deter both hit him like any other mob.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>So YES resits to specific dmg type STILL exsict in the game althoug they said they were removed...SIGH</div><hr></blockquote>Sounds like a poison immune. Just to clarify something as well - SOE said that resists no longer mitigate damage but they do influence the chance for a mob to outright resist a spell. For for a mob with very high poison resist you may still have trouble landing a spell on then - but if it does land then it'll do so without the damage being mitigated.</span><div></div>

[Moonspark]

<DIV>Welcome to the world of poison immune mobs!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: I can believe I argued with you and took you seriously before, haha!</DIV><p>Message Edited by Moonspark on <span class=date_text>09-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:33 AM</span>

[Nerga]

<DIV>He wasnt immnue bacause:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1.soul flay m2 landed once at 380dmg ,obviously migitated.</DIV> <DIV>2.immnue gives immnue msg,i got resisted. DIFFRENT things.</DIV>

[Magiocracy]

<span><blockquote><hr>Nergall wrote:<div>He wasnt immnue bacause:</div> <div> </div> <div>1.soul flay m2 landed once at 380dmg ,obviously migitated.</div> <div>2.immnue gives immnue msg,i got resisted. DIFFRENT things.</div><hr></blockquote>If a spell's damage was being mitigated then I'd definitely /bug it as that's absolutely not supposed to happen.</span><div></div>

[Zarquon]

<P>The named raptor in Sinking Sands, Meathooks, is 100% immune to poison, although I'm told disease does stick. I suspect the named scorpions and spiders are as well.</P> <P>Its a shame we don't have any disease lines to deal with MOBs like this (Devs, take a hint!), instead of having to chain cast Ice Flame and Word of Force.  Even wizzies have heat AND cold.</P> <P>Toksick Spill, 52 Warlock</P> <P>Disciples of Evil, Crushbone</P>

[Kalel]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zarquon wrote:<BR> <P>The named raptor in Sinking Sands, Meathooks, is 100% immune to poison, although I'm told disease does stick. I suspect the named scorpions and spiders are as well.</P> <P>Its a shame we don't have any disease lines to deal with MOBs like this (Devs, take a hint!), instead of having to chain cast Ice Flame and Word of Force.  Even wizzies have heat AND cold.</P> <P>Toksick Spill, 52 Warlock</P> <P>Disciples of Evil, Crushbone</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well. Pre-DoF the Distortion line was disease. Not sure now because I havent tryed raiding anything that was immune to poison since release. Unless they changed him since Beta my poison was hitting him just fine. </DIV>

[Dae]

<i>"Well. Pre-DoF the Distortion line was disease."</i> Say what? <div></div>

[Zarquon]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kalel22 wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>Well. Pre-DoF the Distortion line was disease. Not sure now because I havent tryed raiding anything that was immune to poison since release. Unless they changed him since Beta my poison was hitting him just fine. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I was chain casting Dark Nebula (Ad3), Null Distortion (Ad1), Chaotic Maelstorm (Ad3), and Soul Flay (Ad1) at him and none of them took.  Not once.  With the 3s recast on resist, this was pretty convincing.  Think I may even have tried Devastation (Master1), and it just bounced off.  That was on the first wipe.  Second try, I just switched to Ice Flame and Word Of Force, and wasn't resisted once.  52 warlock with 280 disruption.  He was 53 ^^^ Epic, so level shouldn't have been an issue.</P> <P>Brigand and assassin also said that their poisons never took either.</P> <P><BR><BR></P>

[Zarquon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daerv wrote:<BR><I>"Well. Pre-DoF the Distortion line was disease."</I><BR><BR>Say what?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><U><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT></U><BR>Kal,</P> <P>Even your image here: </P> <P><IMG src="http://img53.echo.cx/img53/5345/warlock51tk.jpg"></P> <P>shows Nil Distortion is poison, so unless the description is wrong, then Distortion was poison, and always has been.</P>

[Kalel]

<P>Have you ever fought a raid mob that was completely immune to poison (ie. Venekor, Spirits of the Lost raid mobs, Asphyxia)? Apparently not. If you had then you would know that none of the poison based spells EVER land. You know they are immune to poison because there isnt a resist or anything just doesnt land. Now, when you would use BSS and Nil Distortion they would land and half strength. Hence the mob is fully immune to poison and highly resistant to disease. This is why I said the Nil line was disease. They cant be poison or they wouldnt hit poison immune mobs. The Nil Line is the only noxious based line that ever hits and Poison immune raid mobs. </P> <P> </P> <P>Descriptions arent everything. </P>

[Dae]

Your own pre-DoF screenshot thread... http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6517&jump=true Suffocating Cloud and Chaotic Maelstrom lines were disease based. The Distortion line was most definitely poison based. Are we disputing the spell descriptions because of raid mob resists? <div></div>

[Kalel]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daerv wrote:<BR>Your own pre-DoF screenshot thread...<BR><BR>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6517&jump=true<BR><BR>Suffocating Cloud and Chaotic Maelstrom lines were disease based. The Distortion line was most definitely poison based.<BR><BR>Are we disputing the spell descriptions because of raid mob resists?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yes. Raid mobs that are completely resistant to poison but Distortion lines hits them. What better judge of the type of spell. <BR> <p>Message Edited by Kalel22 on <span class=date_text>09-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:08 AM</span>

[Zarquon]

So let me rephrase: Meathooks is not immune to poison, it is highly resistant to poison.  As for disease immunity, I can't comment because we have no disease lines post-DOF.

[Kalel]

<P>I guess we will have to see how it all plays out with this resist thing.</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by Kalel22 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-22-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>12:23 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Kalel22 on <span class=date_text>09-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:23 PM</span>