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Dae
06-14-2005, 03:13 PM
<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div><font color="#ffff00"><b>Once again a work in progress... Updated: September 14th 2005... </b></font>Atdan started a thread <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6982" target="_blank">here</a>, which answers a lot of common questions that people spam these boards with. Please post things I haven't covered or things you think aren't correct in this thread and I'll edit them into the top post. Also if anyone has any information on how to get this thing stickied it'd be appreciated. Links to screenshots/threads would be nice too. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>New: Current Issues</b></font> ... <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>New: So what changed?</b></font> This has been discussed to death in several forums. Pretty much every spell is now different and you will have to adapt. The best thing to do is just read your spell descriptions, practice and figure out how best to fight now. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What adept 3's should I get made (because once clearly isn't enough)?</b></font> Well since you didn't read this FAQ and just made a new post about it anyway kindly go and stand in the corner, <b>in shame</b>. For everyone else try scrolling down a bit. There's a handy colour coded list. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What is the Warlock?</b></font> <strike> Warlocks are a damage class with a minor in utility. We do one thing really well and that's front loaded damage. I personally consider myself to be most useful when you need to remove adds from a large encounter before focusing on the named. On long drawn out fights I tend to have aggro issues and my dps can suffer from having to slack off a bit. We can only wear very light armour so our mitigation is about as bad as it can possibly be.</strike> Our primary source of damage is now area effect damage spells. With the combat update our single target damage has been reduced. While we can use encounter AEs as single target spells it isn't as efficient. It is clear that Sony want us to be AE specialists. <strike> Our primary source of damage is single target direct damage spells. We do however have a decent line of AEs (Absolutions) and some DoTs (Steal Breath / Dark Emanations).</strike> <strike> Our utility comes in the form of straight up power pool increase, out of combat power regen, power transfers (can't say I've ever needed to use mine), resist buffs (mostly poison, some magic), a long duration stun and proc buffs (3 combat, 2 reactive).</strike> Our utility comes in the form of two group buffs and three single target buffs. The Seal line of buffs reduce resists on spells by raising the effective casting level of the group. The other group buff increases max group power as well as poison and disease. Our three single target buffs are a single target poison damage DoT melee proc, a reactive AE proc and a reactive power tap/regen over time. We are (possibly) in demand for groups but we can also solo very well (easier 23+) when grouping is not an option. As an example if you check out the Splitpaw Saga board you will see Warlocks are one of the few classes not whining about not being able to solo it. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Can I be a Warlock? What about Qeynos? Ogres? Trolls? etc.</b></font> Certainly. Any character can be a Warlock regardless of race or starting city. Let me repeat that. People from Qeynos CAN be Warlocks. There is no need to betray to Freeport. Certain races may be at a slight disadvantage to begin with since they have a lower starting intelligence. However there is a lot of gear to increase this stat and things even out as better gear becomes available to you. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What is the best reason to pick to the Warlock class?</b></font> Style <i>baby</i>. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Is there a Warlock channel?</b></font> Yes its <b>highkeep.warlockchannel</b>. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Warlock vs. <font color="#ff9900">Wizard</font>?</b></font> New: As of the combat update Warlocks focus on AE damage and Wizards focus on single target. Copied from Atdan's post: "<span></span>Well it depends on your play style. Research the classes further and pick which one you think you’ll have the most fun with". <strike> My personal opinion is it basically comes down to what colour you want your nukes to be. Big firey and orange or clouds of green and purple gas. There are other differences too but there are tons of threads discussing them and this FAQ isn't going to devolve into one of those. Lets face it, either way you're going to end up a dress wearing pansy.</strike> <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What do Warlock spell effects look like?</b></font> <font color="#99ff00"> Dark Distortion</font> line causes a ball of green fluff to fly towards the mob. Both you and the mob are then engulfed in a cloud of green gas. <font color="#9933cc"> Suffocating Breath</font> line causes a ball of purple fluff to fly towards the mob. The mob is then covered in a kind of purpley. <font color="#cc99ff"> Noxious Bolt line</font> causes a ball of purple energy/electricity to arc towards the mob. The mob is then engulfed in a cloud of purple gas. <font color="#99ffff"> Ice Flame</font> causes a bunch of icy spears to fly towards the mob impaling it. The mob is then covered in bright white fire. <font color="#ff0000">Devastation</font> floaty skulls fly to the mobs it hits streaming purple fluff behind them. When the DoT runs out each mob gets hit with a rather large floaty glowy orange hammer. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Look! I solo'd this awesome Epicx20 space bat angel dragon!!!!111</b></font> No. Just no. <b>Don't post it</b>. No one wants to see. Just go away. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>I'm grouping with another Warlock and it says my spells can't take effect?! (FIXED)</b></font> As of the combat update all DoT damage stacks regardless of whether two people cast the same spell at the same time. <strike> In Everquest II DoTs and other detrimental effects of the same type, applied to mobs by players (from spells, combat arts or whatever), do not stack. Only the spell from the higher level character will land. This means if someone else is already running something like Steal Breath on a mob then you won't be able to use your Steal Breath until the other one runs out. This is especially problematic with the must have level 30 training selection Belengere's Sapping Salvo. This spell has a DoT component (lasts roughly as long as the BSS recast timer) and this prevents more than one Warlock in the same group/raid from using the spell at the same time.</strike> <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>How do my different AE lines work? </b></font> Warlocks get four types of AE spell... - Negative Absolution --> Null Absolution --> Nil Absolution = Awesome <strike>Decent</strike> AE Damage + <strike>Dispell + (Null and Nil have DoT component)</strike>. These AEs have max of 5 targets and are all on separate timers. - Putrid Cloud --> Grievous Blast --> Dark Nebula = Single target stun + Good <strike>terrible </strike>AE damage. - Suffocating Cloud --> Abysmal Fury = PBAE (situational) + Interupt + Decent <strike>terrible</strike> AE damage over time (initial + 3 ticks every second). - Devastation = Very short duration AE DoT over a period of 6 seconds. Massive damage. Max 5 targets. Stuns targets when DoT ends. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Why is Freeze/Flashfreeze getting resisted all the time?! Useless!</b></font> Stop. Press L. Scroll down to Subjugation. Check how far it is off the current max? Yeah that's right. Low subjugation for your level means spells using that skill (stuns, roots etc.) will get resisted a lot. Cast your roots and stuns as often as possible in order to work this skill up. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What do I do with Nil Crystals? Where did they come from?</b></font> A whole bunch of spells now use Nil Crystals. When a mob dies under the effect of certain spells (Curse of Darkness being the first at level 25) you are granted a Nil Crystal. These are temporary and you can have up to 50 in a stack. They are used for casting two kinds of spells. <strike> The first is the Abhorrent Gift line, which starts at level 32. This is a 10 minute group buff that increases the max power pool of the group by quite a bit. This spell does not consume the Nil Crystals. You just need one in your inventory.</strike> The second is Netheros, which you receive at level 48. This summons a dumb fire pet that lasts for a short while. This spell does consume a Nil Crystal every time it is cast. <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Int, Power and Damage?</b></font> Int now affects spell damage. The effects aren't exactly staggering... <strike> Contrary to what the manual says Int does not affect your damage... yet. The whole spell system is currently under going a massive rebuild and we can expect this to go live sometime around the release of the first expansion. Int affecting damage is supposed to be included in this. For now having over 200 int gives diminishing amounts of power returns so once you reach that point getting more raw power is a better option.</strike> <font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3">Upgrading my invis spells? Why?</font></b></font> <strike> </strike>Invis spells no longer upgrade.<strike> Thanks Fepple for reminding me about this. Invis spells work on a level basis. They have a max mob level, which you can pass by without detection. By upgrading your invis spells you increase the max level of mob that you can invis past. This is useful for shard runs, exploring or whatever else you think you may need invis for.</strike> <font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3">What's the deal with roots?</font></b></font> I won't talk about Ethereal Bindings or it's training upgrade here. Those spells are quickly replaced. What it comes down to is this. Warlocks get three lines of roots... <strike> <font color="#ffff00"> Frozen Manacles</font>: You get this at level 19 and it's your staple root. 2 second cast time and 9 second refresh. If you're quick you can land this before Freeze/Flashfreeze runs out. In my experience it has approx 20% chance to hold if you land a damage spell. It's useful for soloing non-heroic mobs and also for bridging the gap between Bony Grasps. You will still use this at 50.</strike> <strike><font color="#ffff00"> Paralysing Fear</font>: You get this at level 33 and it's a shadow of it's former self. Originally this spells worked by rooting the mob. When this root broke (by damage or running out) the mob would be feared every single time for a significant period of time. This combined with other FM and stuns could be used to solo heroic mobs. However this was nerfed. Big time. Now it works as follows. PF roots the mob. You damage the mob. The root breaks and the mob has a spell applied to it. This spell lasts about 8 seconds and during that time if you nuke the mob again it has a small chance to be feared. If it happens to fire this fear will break instantly if the mob takes any other damage. In short this is for parking mobs only. You can use it bridge the gap between Bony Grasps but only if you're 100% sure there are no DoTs on the mob. It also has a significantly longer cast time than FM.</strike> <strike><font color="#ffff00"> Bony Grasp</font>: The holy grail of roots. This root works as follows. Four second cast time, 36 second duration and 45 second recast timer. It will root the target and ANY mob surrounding it regardless of whether they are part of the same encounter. This can be annoying but here's the good part. NOTHING can break Bony Grasp. If it's not resisted that mob is stuck there for 36 seconds and you can do whatever the hell you like it during that time. Some would call this overpowered. I call it useful. This is very useful while soloing in the new Splitpaw zone and can also be used to prevent yourself from drawing aggro in a group situation.</strike> <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>Training Options?</b></font> <strike> You get a choice of four class specific abilities at levels 10, 20, 30 and 40. <font color="#ffff00"> Level 10...</font> - Shielding Upgrade: Keeps growing forever like Magi's Shielding and has better stats - Best choice simply because it lasts so long. - Root Upgrade: - DoT Upgrade: Fire based upgrade to Static Pulse. Not a bad choice but again it won't last that long. - AE Upgrade: Oh god no. Early AEs are horrible damage for the aggro they generate. <font color="#ffff00"> Level 20...</font> - Blaze Upgrade: Not bad but probably also pointless once you're running Dark Distortion and Ice Spike together. - Melee Proc Upgrade: Not bad but only half the damage of Venomous Runes you get shortly after. - Painful Meditation Upgrade: Not bad but Painful Meditation Adept 3 is better. - Tongue Twist Upgrade: The added damage is negligible and the level cap is only one or two higher. Has a cool floaty skull graphic though. <font color="#ffff00"> Level 30... </font> - It is highly recommended that you pick <b>Belengere's Sapping Salvo</b> here. Dark Distortion Adept 3 may be better to start with but the lifetap, power drain, DoT effect and fully grown superior damage make this a very good choice. - Another possibility is the Negative Absolution upgrade. This gives an AE interupt <b>that works on epic mobs</b>, dispells 81 levels of buffs and does ~300 damage when mastered. It also has a very short cast time at only 1 second. <font color="#ffff00"> Level 40...</font> - Aura of Darkness Upgrade: 10.7 second stun. Very, very good. - Noxious Bolt Upgrade: Some people like this. Noxious Bolt Master 1 is superior (but obviously rare). Also once they fix Soul Flay this is probably going to be a bad choice.</strike> <font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3">What are my fun spells and where do I get them?</font></b></font> We get 6 fun spells at levels 20, 30, 35, 40, 45 and 50. These consist of 3 illusions (can be cast on ourselves, other group members or group members pets) and 3 familiars (pets that follow you around but don't do anything else). Some people have managed to get the familiars to tank for them by using mob AE attacks to trigger a defensive response. Personally I've managed to get a pet to aggro a mob but it doesn't actually attack or hold aggro or anything. These spells are purchased from the spell vendor for the appropriate tier (the guys in the caster guilds that sell App2's that no one ever bothers with). In Freeport these guys are located in the Academy Of Arcane Scientists. In Qeynos they are sold from scribes in the Arbos Tree in Eldarr Grove (lvl 20) and the scribe next to Accountant Fowler in QH (lvl 30). 20: Toad illusion - Kraylith's Curse Of The Toad. 30: Toad familiar - Kraylith's Minor Familiar. 35: Bat illusion - Yreth's Bat Vexation. 40: Bat familiar - Yreth's Flying Friend (may just be called Bat Familiar). 45: Rat illusion - Erqu's Hex Of The Rat. 50: Raven familiar - Erqu's Emissary (may just be called Raven Familiar). Fun tip: Get the Zygomid pet shroom from the Splitpaw AP and use your illusions on it. You can make the tiniest rat/bat/toad in the world! <font color="#ccff00" size="3"><b>What forms does Netheros take?</b></font> Netheros is now always a Nightblood. <strike> App1: An air based pulsating blob. Adept1: A land based pulsating blob. Has tentacles. Adept 3: A big black wolf. Master 1: A Nightblood.</strike> <font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3">Must have Adept 3's and a few what were they thinkings!</font></b></font> <font color="#66cc00"> Swampbane wrote the following... Id like to offer a few things to add: Green (Get Adept 3 if possible (great upgrade)), </font><font color="#ff0000">Red (Horrible upgrade and or doesnt even belong on hotbar (the spell is that bad) </font> <p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 10-19 (Coral or Silver required)</font></b><font color="#66cc00"> </font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 13 Painful Meditation (separate timer to other hp converts and better ratio than Nusks) </font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 15 Ice Spike (better damage than your level 24 nuke and faster recast timer) </font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 19 Frozen Manacles (still used at 50) </font></p> <p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 20-29 (Jasper or Palladium required) </font></b></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 23 Dark Distortion</font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 24 Suffocating Breath (less damge than ice spike)</font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 26 Suffocating Cloud (less damage that Negative Absolution)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 27 Invite Void</font> </p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 28 Steal Breath</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 29 Flashfreeze (Still use at level 50, until they fix Deter anyway)</font></p> <p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 30-39 (Opal or Ruthenium required) </font></b></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 30 Nullification </font><font color="#ff0000">(huge hate generated and no use at this level)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 30 Noxious Bolt (Still use at lvl 50 if u took TNN at level 40, until they fix Soul Flay anyway)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 34 Null Absolution (Still use at level 50; on different timer)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 35 Ice Flame (still use at lvl 50)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 37 Nil Distortion (still use at level 50) <font color="#ff33ff"><b>** PRIORITY! **</b></font></font><font color="#66cc00"> </font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 39 Curse of Emptiness (final debuff in this line)</font> </p> <p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 40-50 (Ruby or Rhodium required) </font></b></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 40 Bony Grasp </font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 41 Chaotic Maelestrom (still use at 50)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 41 Grisly Contract (still use at 50)</font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 43 Soul Flay (broken low damage)</font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 44 Abysmal Fury (low damage and long recast)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 45 Torment of Shadows (long range and decent damage nice puller)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 48 Nil Absolution (Stacks with Null Absolution and Devastation)</font></p> <p><font color="#66cc00">Level 50 Devastation (WOW!)</font><font color="#66cc00"> <font color="#ff33ff"><b>** PRIORITY! **</b></font></font></p> <p> <span class="time_text"><font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3">Useful links...</font></b></font></span></p><p><span class="time_text"><b><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=11557&jump=true" target=_blank>Post combat update spells from 1-50.</a></b> </span></p> <p><span class="time_text"><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6517&jump=true" target="_blank">Kalel started this thread and it has screenshots of an absolute ton of Warlock spell stats.</a> </span></p> <p><span class="time_text"><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=5595&jump=true" target="_blank">Another thread containing screenshots of spells.</a> </span></p> <p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=7803&jump=true" target="_blank">Dark Nebula: Explanation of what it is and does complete with an explanatory screenshot.</a> </p> <p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6726&jump=true" target="_blank">A tier 5 gear list thread. Lists those items you should look to obtain as you reach the higher levels.</a> </p> <p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=3793&view=by_date_ascending&page=1" target="_blank">Compiled list of Warlock spell drops.</a> </p> <p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=1469&jump=true" target="_blank">List of Warlock masters people have seen in the game.</a> </p> <p><a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=7689&jump=true" target="_blank">Robes database!</a> </p> <p><a href="http://www.eqiiwarlocks.com/" target="_blank">EQII Warlocks.</a> </p> <p><a href="http://www.d2lodshop.com/eq2skills/index.html" target="_blank">An EQ2 Skills Site.</a> </p> <p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">06-15-2005</span> <span class="time_text">08:29 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">06-23-2005</span> <span class="time_text">01:04 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">06-27-2005</span> <span class="time_text">02:25 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">07-02-2005</span> <span class="time_text">07:16 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">08-02-2005</span> <span class="time_text">04:59 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class="date_text">08-04-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:37 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Daerv on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:27 AM</span>

N2de
06-14-2005, 05:01 PM
<P><SPAN>Good info, keep it coming. There's not enough info about warlocks and the spell descriptions are so vague, at 38 I just found out that bony grasp is an unbreakable root.</SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P>Message Edited by N2deep on <SPAN class=date_text>06-14-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:02 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by N2deep on <span class=date_text>06-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:03 AM</span>

Fepp
06-14-2005, 07:41 PM
<div></div><div></div>Great pst Daerv<span></span><a href="../view_profile?user.id=97999" target="_blank"><span></span></a><div></div><p>Message Edited by Fepple on <span class=date_text>06-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:42 PM</span>

CrimsonAveng
06-14-2005, 10:23 PM
<P><FONT color=#66cc00>Id like to offer a few things to add: Green (Get Adept 3 if possible (great upgrade)), </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>Red (Horrible upgrade and or doesnt even belong on hotbar (the spell is that bad)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Level 20-29</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 23 Dark Distortion</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 24 Suffocating Breath (less damge than ice spike)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 26 Suffocating Cloud (less damage that Negative Absolution)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 27 Invite Void</FONT> </P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 28 Steal Breath</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 29 Flashfreeze (Still use at level 50)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Level 30-39</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 30 Nullification </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000>(huge hate generated)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 30 Noxious Bolt (Still use at lvl 50 if u took TNN at level 40)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 34 Null Absolution (Still use at level 50; on different timer)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 35 Ice Flame (still use at lvl 50)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 37 Nil Distortion (still use at level 50)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 38 Dark Pillaging (uses too much power and long recast)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 41 Chaotic Maelestrom (still use at 50)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 41 Grisly Contract (still use at 50)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 42 Vulian Interference (huge hate generated)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 43 Soul Flay (broken low damage)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Level 44 Abysmal Fury (low damage and long recast)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 45 Torment of Shadows (long range and decent damage nice puller)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 46 Wicked Gift </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 48 Nil Absolution (Stacks with Null Absolution and Devestation)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00>Level 50 Devestation (WOW!)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00></FONT> </P> <P><FONT color=#66cc00></FONT> </P>

Dae
06-15-2005, 03:37 AM
Great list <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I'll cut and paste. Btw please feel free to correct my spelling and grammar since I'm pretty sure in all that lot there'll be some glaring mistakes. <div></div>

WaachBack
06-15-2005, 04:40 AM
<DIV>Great job man, maybe now people will stop asking the same questions over and over. Thanks. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

El Chupacabr
06-15-2005, 06:16 AM
Nice to see another FAQ on the mage boards <span>:smileywink:</span>! <div></div>

SilentSam
06-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Great work Daerv!  And a big thanks to whichever dev decided to sticky this one  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Ci
06-15-2005, 04:14 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Daerv wrote:<font color="#ffff00"><b>Updated: June 15th 2005... </b></font><font color="#ffff00"> Level 30...</font> - <b>You do not have an option here</b>. Pick <b>Belengere's Sapping Salvo</b>. Dark Distortion Adept 3 may be better to start with but the lifetap, DoT effect and fully grown superior damage make this your only choice. </blockquote>No, not neccesarily. If you already have DD in adept 3, you can get the NexVok's Surging Toxin. AE on 5 targets, does intterupt even on Epics, dispel 81 lvls of spells, 300ish dmg,<b> 1 sec casttime.</b> </span><span></span><span></span><span> <blockquote> <font color="#ccff00"><b><font size="3"></font></b></font><p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 30-39 (Opal or Ruthenium required) </font></b></p> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 30 Nullification </font><font color="#ff0000">(huge hate generated) </font></p></blockquote> not really useful here, dont put it on your bar... Just kept it here because the upgrade is useful <blockquote><p><font color="#ff0000">Level 38 Dark Pillaging (uses too much power and long recast) </font></p></blockquote> Ok spell, but the upgrade to AD3 is lousy... Keep it in your bar though, it may use ALOT of _your_ power, but it gives alot of power to the group. <blockquote> <p><font color="#ff0000">Level 38 Dark Pyre (upgrade to Suffocating Breath and the damage still stinks) </font></p></blockquote> <p><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#ffffff">Keep in bar to complete HOs, dont upgrade to ad3 though, just doesnt do that much dmg.</font> </font></p> </span><span> <p><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#33cc00">Lvl 39 Curse of emptiness </font></font></p> <p><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#33cc00"><font color="#ffffff">Last debuff in this line, upgrade it</font> </font></font></p> <blockquote> <p><b><font color="#ffff00">Level 40-50 (Ruby or Rhodium required) </font></b></p><p><font color="#66cc00">Level 41 Grisly Contract (still use at 50) </font></p></blockquote> OMG I want the master of this spell, the upgrade is just HUGE from ad1 to ad3 and then to master 1 </span> <span> <blockquote><p><font color="#ff0000">Level 42 Vulian Interference (huge hate generated) </font></p></blockquote> Very useful raid spell. True, generates ALOT of hate, dont cast anything else 15 sec before and 15 sec after even if resisted. No upgrade from app1 to master1 though. <blockquote><p><font color="#66cc00">Level 46 Wicked Gift </font></p></blockquote> Bad upgrade to ad3, just get the ad1 (354 to 363) </span><div></div>

Dae
06-15-2005, 04:32 PM
I'll change the BSS part to indicate that there is another viable option but I still wouldn't personally recommend anyone take the AE over BSS unless they had DD Master 1. The addional effects of BSS combined with the sheer amount of times you'll cast it compared to the AE make it much better in my eyes. Looking at the screenshot Dark Pillaging at Adept 1 gives approx 200 power to your group over time. I'd only see this being useful in long drawn out epic encounters but does anyone actually use it? I'll remove it from the "bad spell" list for now. Is Curse of Emptiness really worth taking to Adept 3? At Adept 1 it debuffs for half as much as Chaotic Maelstrom. Can't you use Curse of Emptiness to complete the same HOs that Dark Pyre completes? I'll remove Vulian Intereference and Wicked Gift from the list. Wicked Gift was one I missed when I cut and pasted. <div></div>

Atd
06-15-2005, 05:24 PM
<P>Great Post !!!</P> <P>This is what I was trying to get going when I posted the first time and you took that to the level I should have at the time but didn't have the time to do.</P> <P>Great info and thanks Daerv for your time doing this it will help alot of people playing or planning to play a Warlock /salute</P> <P> </P>

Ci
06-15-2005, 07:11 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Daerv wrote:I'll change the BSS part to indicate that there is another viable option but I still wouldn't personally recommend anyone take the AE over BSS unless they had DD Master 1. The addional effects of BSS combined with the sheer amount of times you'll cast it compared to the AE make it much better in my eyes. </blockquote></span><span></span>I use the AE on single targets all the time because of the extremely low casttime. <span></span><span> <blockquote> Looking at the screenshot Dark Pillaging at Adept 1 gives approx 200 power to your group over time. I'd only see this being useful in long drawn out epic encounters but does anyone actually use it? I'll remove it from the "bad spell" list for now. </blockquote> Yes, its a drain spell, so everyone raiding ought to use it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <blockquote> Is Curse of Emptiness really worth taking to Adept 3? At Adept 1 it debuffs for half as much as Chaotic Maelstrom. </blockquote> Well... Its a debuff you are gonna have running 99% of the time, the upgrade is low to ad3, but on the other hand you use it alot. I didnt upgrade it until Id been 50 for a while. <blockquote> Can't you use Curse of Emptiness to complete the same HOs that Dark Pyre completes? </blockquote> Sure. But why not deal a bit of damage trying to complete it, if you already have CoE running. </span><div></div>

Dae
06-15-2005, 07:32 PM
Okay Curse of Emptiness added and Dark Pyre removed. I'm thinking of just removing all the red spells since people will more than likely figure out what isn't useful themselves. Maybe have a separate list of spells that could do with looking at? <div></div>

Crono1321
06-16-2005, 12:45 AM
<DIV>I'd say do not upgrade frozen manacles to adept3; no one can prove that it does anything but a few more points of damage.  My frozen manacles adept1 or app4 ( I cant' remember) will either last for one hit for the whole battle; roots do the same thing for all power levels.  With the rising cost of tier 1-3 rares I would say definately do not <STRONG><EM><U>waste</U></EM></STRONG> any more than 5g on FM adept3.</DIV>

Solken
06-27-2005, 11:48 PM
<DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=97999" target=_blank><SPAN>Daerv</SPAN></A></DIV> <DIV><BR>First off, great post!</DIV> <DIV><BR>Could u plz include some other spells i don't see on the list...is that cause they are crap?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/abilities/CurseofDarkness.php" target=_blank><B>Curse of Darkness</B></A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I bought adept3 DarkD and StealBreath to max out damage done by DarkD. Curse of the darkness is on a different timer than StealBreath, does it have a big debuff on it? Can anyone tell me if its worth upgrading?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also boon of void...worth upgrading?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Solkenar 35 Swash</DIV> <DIV>Garuryn 23 Warlock</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Solkenar on <span class=date_text>06-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:50 PM</span>

Dae
06-28-2005, 01:29 AM
If spells are not on the list it doesn't mean they aren't worth upgrading. They are just a much lower priority than the spells that are listed. Steal Breath and Chaotic Maelstrom (the two DoT debuffs) have a much bigger debuff component than Curse of Darkness and Curse of Emptiness (straight debuffs). Seems a bit backwards to me but that's how it is. No idea on Boon of the Void. I remember someone posting something to the effect of the power regen increasing a fair bit but not much else. That was a while ago though. Can't say I'd bother with it personally. There are also two upgrades to this spell currently in the game Bolster Energy and Aspect of Darkness. <div></div>

Crono1321
06-28-2005, 11:37 PM
I would say do not upgrade buffs past adept1, and if you must make them adept 3, at least wait til they won't be replaced (38+) <div></div>

maddawg138
07-01-2005, 02:16 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Crono1321 wrote:<BR>I would say do not upgrade buffs past adept1, and if you must make them adept 3, at least wait til they won't be replaced (38+)<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>cept dark pact...seems to stack with seal and gives more int

Crono1321
07-01-2005, 05:00 PM
True, although most buff upgrades do not scale that well, so I would choose your battle spells (DD and canni. first) before upgrading buffs. <div></div>

NIT
07-06-2005, 11:11 PM
<P>Excellent Post... Thanks a lot for the time you put into this...</P> <P>Fazz 41 Warlock</P> <P>Befallen</P>

Sir_Halbarad
08-04-2005, 08:23 PM
Lvl 20 Training Options: Everything correct except Curse of Darkness Upgrade. 4th one is: Tongue Twist Upgrade: Deals Additional Poison Damage. <div></div>

Dae
08-04-2005, 09:38 PM
Fixed!<div></div>

Arrowheart
08-08-2005, 12:33 PM
<DIV> <DIV>Something I didn't see covered was how to get these spells introduced with bloodlines and splitpaw which are not aquired through normal leveling :</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 35 Ice Flame (how to get)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sages 35+ can make the spell by buying the special recipe books that was released along with bloodline chronicles.</DIV> <DIV>Basically they can make apprentice 2/3/4 or an adept 3 version (requires rare - opal). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You can also quest the app2 version from nek forest at one of the 2 camps by timberfalls. You can purchase it for around 77 silver from the merchant after you have completed the 3rd quest (requires bloodlines addon enabled/purchased to quest).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 20+ Word of Force Apprentice 2 (how to get)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is no upgrade / crafted version of this spell, it can only be purchased at the merchant in SP requiring you to have the addon and done 3 quests (out of 5 select possible) and earned the gnolls trust. May as well pick it up if you have splitpaw, but the spell itself isn't really anything special (it scales as you level and has a 10% chance to do additional dmg). No idea on how this spell is going to change with revamp coming up.</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Arrowheart on <span class=date_text>08-12-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:08 PM</span>

Laha
08-10-2005, 06:54 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Daerv wrote:<BR> <FONT color=#ffff00><B>Updated: August 4th 2005...<BR><BR></B></FONT><BR><FONT color=#ccff00 size=3><B>What forms does Netheros take?</B></FONT><BR><BR>App1: An air based pulsating blob.<BR>Adept1: A land based pulsating blob. Has tentacles.<BR>Adept 3: A big black wolf.<BR>Master 1: A Nightblood.<BR><BR> <P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>What exactly or who exactly is Netheros?  Exscuse my stupidity, but I didnt see this listed in teh FAQ anywhere.  Imma Bruiser...  Think I took too many blows to the head...  BUT!!!!  Thats OK, cause I have a 25 Warlock <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by Lahash on <span class=date_text>08-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:54 PM</span>

Dae
08-10-2005, 12:12 PM
As it stands now Netheros is a semi-pet (you cast it on a specific target) that lasts around 36 seconds, does fairly poor damage, roots you for the duration and consumes a nil crystal every time it's cast. It's really just a DoT with a graphic. It seems to have changed on the test server though so I'll wait for DoF release to update the FAQ... lots of things are gonna change. <div></div>

Dae
09-14-2005, 12:27 PM
Lots has changed. Please help me update it! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

Kalel
10-22-2005, 01:18 AM
<DIV>Some corrections here. Corrections in Yellow.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Negative Absolution --> Null Absolution --> Nil Absolution = Awesome <STRIKE>Decent</STRIKE> AE Damage + <STRIKE>Dispell + (Null and Nil have DoT component)</STRIKE>. These AEs have max of 5 targets and <FONT color=#ffff00><STRONG><EM>are all on same timer.<BR></EM></STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV>- Putrid Cloud --> Grievous Blast --> Dark Nebula = <FONT color=#ffff00><STRONG><EM>Group</EM></STRONG></FONT> stun + Good <STRIKE>terrible </STRIKE>AE damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV>

kr8ztwin
10-24-2005, 07:08 PM
you have noxious bolt at 30 (its 29) and flashfreeze at 29 (its at 30)  :robottongue:

dread du
11-07-2005, 10:01 PM
This FAQ is so jumbled and outdated it should prolly just be deleted till somebody can write a new one. <div></div>

Daramh
12-14-2005, 02:51 PM
<P>link eqiiwarlocks.com broken <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>