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maddawg138
06-08-2005, 02:05 PM
<DIV>myself and a few others i have talked to noticed that frozen menacles hasnt held as long as it use to......today just for fun while waiting on the rest of my guild to show up to Permafrost so we could do the Drayek instance i decided to solo the lvl 46 giant at the entrance. so i do my usual bony grasp to start out...well when the time comes for me to use my frozen menacles (which is usually last) it lands like normal then 2 seconds later it breaks and i still had about 10 sec left til bony grasp was back up. well anyways to make this a short story i got owned and died in 3 hits =.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>anyone else having a problem with this spell not sticking for entire duration?</DIV>

Tybr
06-08-2005, 02:40 PM
Knew it was going to happen...*cough* movies...*cough* <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just didn't know when.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Dae
06-08-2005, 02:52 PM
I can only remember this happening to me once recently. I was fighting a Druid mob and I assumed it cured itself. Admittedly I don't bother soloing group mobs most of the time. It's not worth the time, effort and risk. When I'm killing solo mobs I tend not to care if Frozen Manacles lasts it's full duration since it breaks in a couple nukes most of the time anyway. <div></div>

SalBlu
06-08-2005, 05:11 PM
I dont know if you guys have a similar spell, but in place of Frozen Manacles I use Truss.  Truss is more like a double root.  It roots with Truss, then if it breaks or the timer expires, it casts Tether on the mob.  This gives you time enough to get another root spell up and ready, or get your stun set to blow.

BaronVonPitviper
06-08-2005, 05:33 PM
I've had no problems what-so-ever with frozen manacles. A great 19th level spell.

Soefje
06-08-2005, 05:34 PM
I solo a lot and have not notice a change in FM.  I have been able to solo 2 mobs very effectively by rooting one and then stunning the second and root him.  I was killing dust shrillers for a guild writ (2 blue heroic) with little problem.  Also used it on a blue underline group of giants when I pulled aggro by accident.  Again no problem. Maybe it is the particular mob.  I do not that DOTs seem to break the root more frequently as I level.  At low 20's the dots did not seem to break FM and I could get one, sometimes 2 nukes off.  At upper 20's this does not happen.  The DOT will almost always break the root. <div></div>

SalBlu
06-08-2005, 05:45 PM
<P>Also make note that mobs in Permafrost and Everfrost have higher Cold resistances than some mobs.  Frozen Manacles is an Elemental Cold based spell, and cant be broken more easily.  </P> <P>Wizards see this cold resistance quite a bit with our cold based nukes and debuffs.</P>

Panad
06-08-2005, 06:02 PM
Only thing I noticed that I got a lot more resists than usual yesterday when soloing those defenders of Thyr, FM and BG got resisted half the time, had to flee six times till they finally worked and I was able to actually fight that thing. Hope it was just bad luck and no silent nerf. <div></div>

Sac_jok
06-08-2005, 06:55 PM
<FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 size=2>I haven't noticed anything different with my FM holds, I have been soloing in Feerrott. But, if it is broken now that would suck.</FONT>

Odium
06-08-2005, 11:58 PM
I did notice that FM didn't seem to be holding like it should, infact, Arcane bindings was working better and usualy Ive found it to be the other way around. I was having problems with Zombies (LVL 20) braking FM alot quicker than normal.

maddawg138
06-09-2005, 03:48 AM
<DIV>nah even the mobs in LS its happened to me before as well...cower broke early as well when i threw it on the mob</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/shrug i dont solo enough to care was just wondering if anyone else had that problem as well</DIV>

Ingra
06-09-2005, 09:16 PM
<FONT color=#999966>I haven't noticed a problem with FM, but Bony Grasp hasn't been holding that well for me.  It usually breaks when I should have at least 8 seconds left.  </FONT>

Darkka
06-09-2005, 09:39 PM
Sometimes it holds the enemy a lot, sometimes it lasts 2 seconds. Like yesterday fighting with a party against healing corpses, I was trying to hold the restless corpses while killed the healers. Sometimes it worked ok, sometimes not. Maybe now there is some kind of resistance. For now, I use my other root spell, mmmm.... ...don't remember the name, the one you get when you are still a mage. Not very effective in certain situations but it has been useful while FM recharges, and it doesn't use a lot of power.