What spells are you really using by 25th?

[Xynok]

<DIV>By 25th, are you using any of the sorceror spells any longer?  What is your typical combat cycle (debuff, DD, DoT, DD)?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Are AoE spells a problem, because I notice many spells at this level have it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm just wondering, because I'm currently Level 21, and I wonder what the most efficient (in general) spell setup will be by 25th.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV>

[Naren]

<DIV>at 24th i tend to use the following spells on my main toolbar</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Freeze, Blaze (got adept 3 and it's still usefull at 24), Suffocating breath, negative absolution, Dark Distortion, Putrid cloud, conflagration, freezing whorl, incinerate, frozen manacles.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>these pretty much cover most of my grouping and soloing, though i have some of my older spells on standby on another toolbar EG arcane shackles</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Narenek</DIV> <DIV>24 Warlock</DIV> <DIV>Runnyeye</DIV>

[D-lirium]

<DIV>My order of casts at 24.6 are:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- Frozen Manacles Ad.1   (rootspell)</DIV> <DIV>- Freezing Whorl App.3   (cold DOT)</DIV> <DIV>- Incinerate Ad.1   (heat DOT)</DIV> <DIV>- Arcane Augur   (trigger Heroic Opportunity)</DIV> <DIV>- Ice Spike Ad.1   (activate Heroic Opportunity + small cold nuke)</DIV> <DIV>- Dark Distortion App.3   (Best poison nuke we have)</DIV> <DIV>- Suffocating Breath Ad.1   (2nd best poison nuke we have)</DIV> <DIV>- Ice Spike Ad.1 or Freeze App.3   (finish Heroic Opportunity)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I usually end with repeating Dark Distortion or Suffocating Breath or even Ice Spike if the enemy is just a few % from death.</DIV> <DIV>I think I'm one of the few warlocks who doesn't use Blaze anymore, probably because my Blaze is still Apprentice 3 and my Ice Spike is an Adept 1, they hit for about the same (which is really a bug because Blaze is con green to me and Ice Spike is con yellow to me...</DIV><p>Message Edited by D-lirium on <span class=date_text>12-07-2004</span> <span class=time_text>07:46 AM</span>

[Eadric]

<DIV>I'd add in Painful Meditation.</DIV>

[Arsen]

<DIV>Some of what you use depends on what upgrades you have...</DIV> <DIV>Level 24 - For soloing even or yellow con mobs, I do this:</DIV> <DIV>1.  Feezing Whorl<BR>2.  Dark Distortion<BR>3.  Frozen Manacles<BR>4.  Step back and wait a couple ticks<BR>5.  Dark Disk Distortion (sometimes this finishes them)<BR>6.  If the root breaks, then use Ice Spike/Blaze until dead, if not wait and do my most power effecient spell that I need to finish</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Of course, adjust for interrupts and resists.  But this combo is an extremely effecient killer</DIV> <DIV>For group fighting</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1.  Freezing Whorl<BR>2.  Incinerate<BR>3.  Dark Distortion<BR>4.  Ice Spike <BR>5.  Repeat damage spells, use health to mana when apprpriate<BR>6.  I use tongue twist for casting monsters, maybe some AOEs depending on the group and what we are fighting.  I also use Freeze on occassion if the healer is falling behind and needs a couple seconds or if we are about ready to finish off a healing monster and want to stop him from healing up.  I love Negative Absolution as well, but it builds hate extremely fast so you gotta be careful depending on your tank.</DIV> <DIV><BR>My spell setup:<BR>Feezing Whorl, Painful Meditation - adept 3<BR>Dark Distortion, Frozen manacles, ice spike, tongue twist, putrid cloud, conflagaration - adept 1</DIV> <DIV>Blaze - app 3<BR>Negative Absolution - app 2<BR>Incenerate - app 1</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Those last 2 I really need upgrades and would probably use them more if I had them in adepts.  My Freezing Whorl/Dark Distortion combo is my main damage dealer so I try to maximize the number of times I can use it.</DIV>

[Philoe]

<DIV> <DIV>At 27 when fighting in groups (almost never solo). When fighting blue/white/yellow/red ^^ mobs i debuff, if solo or ^ mobs i dont debuff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U>In groups:</U></DIV> <DIV>1. Posion debuff           Adept I</DIV> <DIV>2. Freezing Whorl       Adept III  (<STRONG>35-50 a tick</STRONG>)</DIV> <DIV>3. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>4. Dark Distortion        Adept III    <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>5. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>6. One or two Health --> power spells (got new one at 27, both at Adept I) ~10 or 20% power</DIV> <DIV>7. Freezing Whorl        Adept III  (<STRONG>35-50 a tick</STRONG>) <DIV>8. Suffocating Breath  Master I    <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>9. Dark Distortion        Adept III    <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>10. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>11. <STRONG>Two </STRONG>Health --> power spells (giving me ~20% extra power at expense of ~35-40 % health i think)</DIV> <DIV>12 Et cetera. Most taunting tanks cant handle this kind of damage from me, which means that i get aggro. I compensate by starting late, pause and so on. Annoying.</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U>If soloing: </U></DIV> <DIV>1. Frozen Manacles (App III)</DIV> <DIV>1,5 Poison Debuff (+ Freezing Whorl if i think i need it)</DIV> <DIV> <DIV>2. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>3. Dark Distortion        Adept III   <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>4. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>5. Blaze                      Adept I      <STRONG>~100 Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>6. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG> <DIV>7. Dark Distortion        Adept III   <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>8. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>9. Et Cetera til mob is dead. Debuffs </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In between casts i throw Ice Spike and Frozen Manacles as needed. If i get hit it usually hurts. 950+ Hitpoints and 1000+ Power selfbuffed at 27.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am a happy Warlock.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>

[Markacqu]

<DIV>At lvl 21, I use the 3 DOT's then frozen manticles.  I wait until the root is about to wear off, then repeat the DOT x 3 and root again.  By this time, the mob is only left with 20 % er so.  Then I use blaze 2-3 times.  I usually only get hit once or twice in the beginning and once or twice in the end.</DIV>

[Attri]

ok my list to add to the fire...1. Frozen Menacles2. Steal Breath (adept 1) - 50dmg per tick DoT --> lowers poison and disease resist3. Dark Distortion (adept 1) - up to 430ish damage4. Suffocating Breath (adept 1) - varies to hell...in the 80-150 range5. Blaze (adept III) - around 100-140 damage6. Frozen Menacles7. Dark Distortion8. Whatever else I feel like to finish off the creature and get my PHAT LEWTS!Been doing the turtles quest in Enchanted Lands non-stop...awesome soloing experience. I normally go after the level 32 mobs which were red to me at 27, orange at 28.Question, what type of material is needed to make the inks for tier 3 adepts? Palladium clusters?

[Arsen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Attrius wrote:<BR>Question, what type of material is needed to make the inks for tier 3 adepts? Palladium clusters?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Yeah, either Palladium or Jasper</DIV>

[Jacmac]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Philoe wrote:<BR> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><U>In groups:</U></DIV> <DIV>1. Posion debuff           Adept I</DIV> <DIV>2. Freezing Whorl       Adept III  (<STRONG>35-50 a tick</STRONG>)</DIV> <DIV>3. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>4. Dark Distortion        Adept III    <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>5. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>6. One or two Health --> power spells (got new one at 27, both at Adept I) ~10 or 20% power</DIV> <DIV>7. Freezing Whorl        Adept III  (<STRONG>35-50 a tick</STRONG>) <DIV>8. Suffocating Breath  Master I    <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>9. Dark Distortion        Adept III    <STRONG>350-500+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>10. Suffocating Breath  Master I   <STRONG>200-250+ Damage</STRONG></DIV> <DIV>11. <STRONG>Two </STRONG>Health --> power spells (giving me ~20% extra power at expense of ~35-40 % health i think)</DIV> <DIV>12 Et cetera. Most taunting tanks cant handle this kind of damage from me, which means that i get aggro. I compensate by starting late, pause and so on. Annoying.</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR> <HR> </DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>You could be hitting for even more damage if only you casted Curse of Darkness. For shame!<BR>

[Misanthrope]

Isn't Curse of Darkness the poison debuff listed as "1. Poison Debuff"? Or am I missing something?

[Dae]

When there's less than 3 mobs in the pull or I don't think I'm gonna survive using AEs...1. Feezing Whorl.2. Curse of Darkness.3. Dark Distortion.4. Suffocating Breath.5. Painful Meditation.6. Suffocating Breath.7. Dark Distortion.8. Suffocating breath.If the mob has over 20% hp left.9. Freezing Whorl refresh.else9. Blaze/Hemia's.10. Suffocating Breath.11. Dark Distortion.If the mob isn't dead by then start over missing out CoD since it lasts so long.When there's 3+ mobs in the pull...1. Negative Absolution.2. Putrid Cloud.3. Suffocating Cloud.After that I go into my single target spell cycle since there's not generally enough left alive to make it worth AE'ing. If there's a huge pull I may fire my AEs twice once they recycle but there's a pretty good chance I'll get aggro at that point.

[Jester]

<DIV>I'd add Summon Shadows. Not as a dmg obviously, but I'd suggest finding an Adept for this spell. </DIV>

[TheRealDude]

<DIV>i can honestly say that by 27 the only spells i use that i got before 20 are the root and invis and the buffs sometimes but then again i dont have the adepts for most of the spells let alone the masters like some of these rich ppl here .... im just unlucky i guess considering in my 28 lvls ive seen only 2 warlock adepts and lost one (dark distortion) to a tank in a lotto who immediatly went LD and didnt come back =/ (saw him selling it for 3g later on the broker)</DIV>

[Deathspell]

Prices of spells are morelikely depending on the server and its population.More people=more items=lower pricesNot to mention Master spells, but I never saw a Warlock adept spell drop, in fact, I'm a lot with the same group, we use HO all the time and all adept spells dropped are completely useless to any of us.It's remarkably how many drops there are for Bards and characters not in our group...

[SocialAnarchy]

ive never had a warlock adpt drop for me either. 1 sorc spell in fallen gate but for the most part all i find is monk and brigand skills