Yay we get ports back!

[IllusiveThoughts]

<DIV>spill the beans wizards/warlocks, where can we port, at what levels do we get ports? are they quested? dropped? do druids get ports too?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>what about the translocates mentioned in the patch notes, when do we get those?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>this is the one thing I'm excited about!.</DIV>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div>It's also worth asking, is spire teleportation wizard only, or sorceror only?  Doesn't effect us one way or the other, but I'm curious.<div></div>

[Xede]

<P>wizard and warlock both get the ports.</P> <P>The spires we are able to port to are CL, Ant and Greater Faydark Spires. Druids get ports as well but to 5 diff druid rings. CL, Ant, Butcherblock, Steamfont and Greater Faydark. Also we will get a single target Port and a group port for each location.</P> <P>Also we must have an item in order to use our port which can be bought at the portal trainer for only 30s each or 15g for a stack of 50.</P>

[Kamuj]

<P>Wow, if this is true, I will be playing my wizzy alot more.</P> <P>I really did miss ports more then would seem rational.</P> <P>Its just a "feel" thing.</P>

[Azmoran]

<P>The quest is super easy to, go to each spire, pick up a scroll, it gives you a quest...you take it back to your mage tower and talk to Portal Trainer and that's it, you get your port spells.</P> <P>In beta you had to be level 25 for the Ant and CL spells and 45 for the Gfay one.</P> <P>Also the recast is really short, so it's very useful for traveling back and forth easily.</P><p>Message Edited by Azmoran on <span class=date_text>11-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:52 AM</span>

[Didi]

<P>We get a group teleport, and also a translocate (that required the target to be grouped, last time I tested it, and does pop up a confirmation box).</P> <P>Here's the group teleport spell graphic -- very pretty!!</P> <P><IMG src="http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/117/antonicaportalspelldl3.jpg"></P> <P>The druid portals work slightly different, they summon a little icon into the air which anybody passing by can click, like a temporary little zone.  </P>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P>awesome news guys, thanks for the replies.  I'm stoked about ports again.</P> <P>thanks for the screenie the graphic is pretty cool.</P>

[Drdog98]

just curious. Anyone know what levels we get these new ports?<div></div>

[Jayingsoo]

<div></div><div></div><font color="#66ffcc">Wow great pic!  But I noticed somebody said druids get more locations to go to than wizards... do they go to druid rings instead of spires?  That would make more sense.. but oh well.  I never played EQ1 so I can't relate to anybody's memory's.  Are ports long casts or are they like a quick evac to a certain location?  And... does this mean I will have to make an entire hotbar dedicated to all the port locations? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Looks like it will be alot of fun and a sure time saver.After reading through the posts again I blatantly noticed that druids do go to druid rings.  1 of 3 questions answered.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  doh!</font><p>Message Edited by Jayingsoo on <span class="date_text">11-04-2006</span> <span class="time_text">12:49 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Jayingsoo on <span class=date_text>11-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:50 PM</span>

[Tanit]

<blockquote><hr>Jayingsoo wrote:<div></div><div></div><font color="#66ffcc">Wow great pic!  But I noticed somebody said druids get more locations to go to than wizards... do they go to druid rings instead of spires?  That would make more sense.. but oh well.  I never played EQ1 so I can't relate to anybody's memory's.  Are ports long casts or are they like a quick evac to a certain location?  And... does this mean I will have to make an entire hotbar dedicated to all the port locations? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </font><hr></blockquote>There are 2 spells for each location. These are the ones that port to greater feydark:<img src="http://www.xanadu-community.com/sfh/23/gfports.JPG"><div></div>

[HerzenFunia]

<DIV>Yeah ports are awesome, Just done em on beta with help of other wizard who already had this ports. Imagine - got port to Greater Faydark from trainer in mage tower, grped with other wizzy, he ported us to Antnica spire, got scroll there, he ported to CL spire, got scroll there, then he ported us to Antonica + evac, and i'am near South Qeynos, minute after finished this 2 little quests and got mine ports <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Took us some minutes to do the whole thing <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Swesome, nuff to say...</DIV> <DIV>PS I honestly hope we will get more portals.</DIV>

[Admh]

    sad that we can't port to KoS. Thanks for the ride Illu <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Jayingsoo]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Azmoran wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <p>The quest is super easy to, go to each spire, pick up a scroll, it gives you a quest...you take it back to your mage tower and talk to Portal Trainer and that's it, you get your port spells.</p> <p>In beta you had to be level 25 for the Ant and CL spells and 45 for the Gfay one.</p> <p>Also the recast is really short, so it's very useful for traveling back and forth easily.</p><p>Message Edited by Azmoran on <span class="date_text">11-04-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:52 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><font color="#6699cc">Scrolls... where are they?  i'm sittin' at ant spires and can't see anything and nobody new to hail or items to pick up. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  please help-Edit-Ahem!  Nevermind <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  About 20 seconds after I made this post i went first person and i was actually standing right next to it.  Small little things, they camoflauge in the grass very well.</font></div><p>Message Edited by Jayingsoo on <span class=date_text>11-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:19 PM</span>

[JohnDoe059]

I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks.

[ailees]

are you going to spammmmmm  us with your DPS problem ?if you want to troll, please go to another place, would be good.I'm happy with ports <div></div>

[Zyphius]

<DIV>I haven't raided in beta yet, but I can say that dps doesn't "appear" to be the problem it is on live. I want to get into a good raid to make a final assessment, though.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Several of our spells got a decent little boost, particularly the ones that were previously "utterly useless".</DIV>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bigfkngun wrote:<BR> I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I understand your not content with your wizard class but, what your asking for SOE has actually done.</P> <P>Mana burn, biggest single target damage spell in the game.</P> <P>Ceace - de-agro amount more than doubled (almost 75% more de-agro)</P> <P>Concussive - de-agros target ENCOUNTER, and interrupts at the same time, along with not requireing a secondary spell to be cast.</P> <P>Anomalism - 4% hate transfer at m1 up from 3%. </P> <P> </P> <P>The de-agro changes are huge changes compared to the tiny ones they made since KOS launch.  </P> <P>Mana burn in its current state is just a fluff spell, but never the less the most powerful single target damage spell any class has.</P> <P> </P>

[TsarRasput]

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> bigfkngun wrote: <div></div>I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks. <hr> </blockquote> <p>I understand your not content with your wizard class but, what your asking for SOE has actually done.</p> <p>Mana burn, biggest single target damage spell in the game.</p> <p>Ceace - de-agro amount more than doubled (almost 75% more de-agro)</p> <p>Concussive - de-agros target ENCOUNTER, and interrupts at the same time, along with not requireing a secondary spell to be cast.</p> <p>Anomalism - 4% hate transfer at m1 up from 3%. </p> <p>The de-agro changes are huge changes compared to the tiny ones they made since KOS launch.  </p> <p>Mana burn in its current state is just a fluff spell, but never the less the most powerful single target damage spell any class has.</p> <hr></blockquote>You forgot one that excites me,Corona - No longer does our 20 second mez mez us.  non-epic, but we get a full blown mez now.</div>

[KillerMojo]

<P>:smileysurprised:</P> <P> </P> <P>w00t for full mezz!</P>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TsarRasputin wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bigfkngun wrote:<BR> I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I understand your not content with your wizard class but, what your asking for SOE has actually done.</P> <P>Mana burn, biggest single target damage spell in the game.</P> <P>Ceace - de-agro amount more than doubled (almost 75% more de-agro)</P> <P>Concussive - de-agros target ENCOUNTER, and interrupts at the same time, along with not requireing a secondary spell to be cast.</P> <P>Anomalism - 4% hate transfer at m1 up from 3%. </P> <P> </P> <P>The de-agro changes are huge changes compared to the tiny ones they made since KOS launch.  </P> <P>Mana burn in its current state is just a fluff spell, but never the less the most powerful single target damage spell any class has.</P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You forgot one that excites me,<BR><BR>Corona - No longer does our 20 second mez mez us.  non-epic, but we get a full blown mez now.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have a bone to pick with soe on this one.  I dont think we should get a mez at all.  </P> <P>In reality if you look back at the changes to our root durations and stuns, it was because other classes had abilities that could make up for not having an enchanter IE. rogues = perma stuns/stifles/interrupts, warlocks,wizards,wardens, roots for crowd controll, ect.</P> <P>So they went and nerfed our root durations (wiz/warlocks, but wardens kept theirs) under the guise of crowd control nerfage.</P> <P>Now they give us a full blown mez, on a relativly short re-cast (3min last i checked) It makes me go what the heck?</P> <P>In a small way it nullifies the root duration nerfs and gives us a small utility upgrade.</P> <P> </P> <P>Do not mis-read my post, I think it is a good change for a spell that never got used, but for the above reasons it rubs me the wrong way.</P>

[ItsMrHarris2u]

<P>Corona will have a 3minute recast?!?  this is a pretty big change from the previous 9 second recast (correct?)....</P> <P>so much for using this to mez/nuke casters (as opposed to root/nuke on non-casters).... guess I'm back to line of sight</P>

[HerzenFunia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bigfkngun wrote:<BR> I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Just another person who dont rly know how to play his class and can only moan.

[Jayingsoo]

<font color="#66ffff">Heyyy ports are GREAT!!  I use them all the time in beta.  Whenever your group wants to go to GF, you no longer have to meet in QH and buy a ticket.  Just buy yourself some of the little dealies..... yeah i forgot what they're called, stack up on those and port your entire group at your leisure to common locations.  I think it's great.  Kinda wish we had more.. like take the LS spire out of the lava and rebuild the Zek one, or have the gnomes build a gigantic machine to suck the back ocean dry in Everfrost by the Permafrost entrance so we can use that spire, too <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but hey I like it a lot.  It's going to save us a lot of time for the deity quests <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  trust me.  I'm just jealous of druids getting more than wizards <span>:smileymad:</span></font>

[Kamuj]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> bigfkngun wrote:<BR> I can't belive your happy we have ports.  Even though the # and locations are lame, now they have an excuse for why we are not tier 1 dps. We now have utility.  Ask SOE for a biger boom, some agro control and instead we get stupid pet tricks.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>You wizards who think you will EVER get a monopoly on DPS are beyond dilusional.</P> <P>Please, please, come to terms with the simple fact that ALL classes get some form DPS for the simple fact that it is REQUIRED to kill a mob.</P> <P>Putting all of your eggs in to the "king of DPS" basket is a mistake IMO.</P> <P>My observation is that for every "1 unit" of DPS that wizards get, they pay "5 units" of everything else.</P> <P> </P> <P>Big booms are a blast (pardon the pun), but at the end of the day, no one else really cares if you hit for 10k every 4 seconds, 5000 every two seconds, or 2500 every second.</P> <P>Well, except maybe you.</P>

[JohnDoe059]

<P>Others do care what our dps is.  It is what we bring to the raid/group.  </P> <P>So we should never have to compete with non tier 1 dps to do our job.  </P> <P>Our competition should be with the other 3 tier1 dps.</P> <P>If not, why bother to invite us ?  Just take the other class that does (more/the same/ almost as much) dps and can......</P> <P>tank, pull, Fd, summon players, track, debuff, group fd, group invis, fear, haste the group, leach and heal, the list goes on n on.</P> <P>We should nuke like Godzilla stomps and take a hit like wet rice paper.  Any thing else ?  Give it to the utility classes, tanks, and healers so they are needed as well.</P> <P>Are we there yet ? No.</P> <P>Maybe the hate management will fix every thing.</P><p>Message Edited by bigfkngun on <span class=date_text>11-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:54 AM</span>

[Twofeets]

To those complaining about druid ports over wizzie ports.Yes, druids get more locations, but in order for people to use them 'EVERYONE' in the group has to go to the destination ahead of time and harvest.  If they havent been there before and harvested the item, they cannot be ported.  Considering how few realize this, how small a % of the player base acually reads the boards (let alone the druid boards), This can become a major headache, especially when dealing with pickup groups.As another posted stated, it was a lot easier for my wiz to get all the wiz spires done, and now Im ready to start porting friends around.  My fury still cannot, since none of my friends have their updates.There are pros and cons to both.<div></div>

[Solzak]

What you don't mention is that you get the GFay port as soon as you start the quest.. buy a shard right away to help in the quest.

[Faheuc]

so... just for clarification, we get 3 ports, to Ant, CL and GF?

[KillerMojo]

<P>The answer to that would be yes.  Apparently we just need to read scrolls found in antonica and commanlands, and then we are done.</P> <P>Where does one start the quest?</P>

[Solzak]

Mage tower in SQ.. red portal I think.. there's a trainer to speak with there.

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> KillerMojo wrote:<BR> <P>The answer to that would be yes.  Apparently we just need to read scrolls found in antonica and commanlands, and then we are done.</P> <P>Where does one start the quest?</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>the scrolls at the spires in gfay(combine) antonica /cl (kos spires) give you the quest</P> <P>you complete it by going to either the mage tower in qeynos (good) or the academy in freeport(bad)<BR></P>

[DustyHostutler]

<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<p>you complete it by going to either the mage tower in qeynos (good) or the academy in freeport(bad)</p><hr></blockquote>There's a portal trainer in Kelethin as well.</div>

[Zyphius]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Twofeets wrote:<BR>To those complaining about druid ports over wizzie ports.<BR><BR>Yes, druids get more locations, but in order for people to use them 'EVERYONE' in the group has to go to the destination ahead of time and harvest.  If they havent been there before and harvested the item, they cannot be ported.  <BR><BR>Considering how few realize this, how small a % of the player base acually reads the boards (let alone the druid boards), This can become a major headache, especially when dealing with pickup groups.<BR><BR>As another posted stated, it was a lot easier for my wiz to get all the wiz spires done, and now Im ready to start porting friends around.  My fury still cannot, since none of my friends have their updates.<BR><BR>There are pros and cons to both.<BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>The fact that every single port or translocate we cast consumes 30s, I think that is already balanced with the fact their passengers have to go to the locations first.</DIV> <DIV>So, them having more locations slants the balance their way.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'll do a pro-con list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wizards:</DIV> <DIV>Pros:</DIV> <DIV>Easy to do quests</DIV> <DIV>Passengers have to do nothing before being ported</DIV> <DIV>Cons:</DIV> <DIV>Only 3 locations</DIV> <DIV>Passengers must be grouped</DIV> <DIV>30s per cast</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Druids:</DIV> <DIV>Pros:</DIV> <DIV>Easy to do quests</DIV> <DIV>5 locations to chose from</DIV> <DIV>Free to cast</DIV> <DIV>Anyone can hitch a ride, grouped or not... even passerbys</DIV> <DIV>Cons:</DIV> <DIV>Passengers have to harvest from each ring before being able to port</DIV> <DIV>(this is only partly a con, as if effects the druid in no way... only effects the tool that didnt do the gathering on launch day)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>...</DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV>

[Nightwo|f]

In the end the druid ones are superior I think (I'm not complaining, I love the sorc portals). I wonder how long before portal bots start getting setup, like Asheron's Call had. Granted there wasn't a game API like Decal here.<p>Message Edited by Nightwo|f on <span class=date_text>11-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:45 PM</span>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nightwo|f wrote:<BR>In the end the druid ones are superior I think (I'm not complaining, I love the sorc portals). I wonder how long before portal bots start getting setup, like Asheron's Call had. Granted there wasn't a game API like Decal here. <P>Message Edited by Nightwo|f on <SPAN class=date_text>11-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:45 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I dont see them as superior just different.</P> <P>besides there are a few spires in EOF that appear could be rebuilt with later live updates, which would be another cool world event like the kos spires were.  I'd especially like to see the spires/rings in the other old world zones rebuilt as well.</P>

[ailees]

any idea where druid ports are ? .. <div></div>

[HerzenFunia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote:<BR>any idea where druid ports are ? .. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>BBM, Steamfont, GFay, Antonica, Commonlands. OR do you need exact locations?

[ShaenO]

<p>I think that the Wizard/Warlock port options should include any place there is a spire. It would be good to split the utility a bit, Druids can go to certain places that the others cannot and vice versa. I would like to see portals to Nek, TS, EL and Feerott for those spires and it would be nice if those outlying areas with Druid rings were active too. Of course these extra options would not be 25 level quests, they would have to be level appropriate, but they would give us something to look forward to. Getting a new ability is sometimes more fun that a new combat art or spell to cast.</p>

[SacDaddy420]

You are rockin the necro post bro. / /ROCK ON !!!!!!!!!!

[Odio]

<cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote> Free to cast  <p></blockquote> </p><p>do you mean  $$$ or power? I have a druid but about to  start my wizard and was hoping it only cost power like the  druids.</p><p><img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <-- I'm cheap!</p>

[Mirander_1]

Odio@Venekor wrote: <blockquote><cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote> Free to cast  </blockquote> <p>do you mean  $$$ or power? I have a druid but about to  start my wizard and was hoping it only cost power like the  druids.</p><p><img src="/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <-- I'm cheap!</p></blockquote>Wizzard ports require a spell component for every cast.  You buy it from the portal trainer, and it costs... 50 silver each, I think (been a while since I last bought them)