Ice comet animation. Yay or nay?

[Jayingsoo]

<font color="#66ffff">Honestly.. I hate the animation for Ice Comet.  Ball of Fire that basically got dipped in the wrong paint bucket.  Does anybody else like it?  I'd rather have a different spell animation (as well as hand animation, for the love of God and all that is holy, PLEASE more hand animations) that has the comet falling from the sky with a particle dust trail behind it that sorta burns it's image on the screen for a short duration.  And an actual explosion of sorts, more like chunks of rock shattering once it hits the target.  (similar to Cremate, forgot lower level names of this spell, but it's our biggest heat DoT).   It's our signature damage ability, can we make it sexy? I say NAY to our current animation! Please band with me for new comet animation =P</font><div></div>

[wckron]

Nay, it looks more like a snowball than a Comet<div></div>

[StoneySilen]

Agreed, IC looks absolutely horrid.Loved the old graphic from EQL.

[Hella_Nervous]

If they were to change it id assume it would be changed to the same effect as the furies Starburst line....just with white particle effects heheh<div></div>

[Mirander_1]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>StoneySilence wrote:Agreed, IC looks absolutely horrid.<hr></blockquote>I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's horrid, but the animation definately isn't worthy of a spell on the level of Ice Comet.</div>

[wckron]

The animation for Ice Comet and IN is HORRID!!!!!!!!<div></div>

[StoneySilen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mirander wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> StoneySilence wrote:<BR>Agreed, IC looks absolutely horrid.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's horrid, but the animation definately isn't worthy of a spell on the level of Ice Comet.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Compared to IC in EQL which caused me to always stop and stare when it went off (I was a pally), yes EQ2's IC animation is HORRID!<BR></P>

[ailees]

<div></div>I'm a 75% raider, then I must admit I don't give a dam about animation : I put them off when I raid, if not, not only I get lag, but moreover, i see nothing at all <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />in the other hand, I woudl add that developpers spend so many times with animation, effects, walls, trees, water, mobs that theu have not enough time for fixing bugs or making a good scenario.Did you pay attention that visual effects have been developped a lot, but that the internal game did not really change for the last 10 years ?<div></div><p>Message Edited by ailees on <span class=date_text>10-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:58 PM</span>

[Serindyl]

Agreed.  Please improve the animation for Ice Comet/Ice Nova -- and what about Fusion?  It should be a miniature nuclear dust cloud with searing jets of fire.

[suroktheslayer5]

<div></div><div></div><span>:smileysad:Sadly this is an old gripe, the devs never listen. People have been complaining about the IC animation since day one and the opinion of the wizard community is almost unanimous about it sucking so much. I don't know why they haven't changed it yet and I doubt they will. <span>:smileymad: Oh for  some reason they  bothered to change sunstrike......go figure.</span></span><span></span><div></div><p>Message Edited by suroktheslayer5 on <span class=date_text>10-23-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:24 AM</span>

[UUCyberSte]

Hated it!Seriously ... It's a snow ball, needs big badda boom style smashing effects!- Frostwynn<div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P>I've seen these complaints since before DOF.</P> <P>You know what I've learned????</P> <P>IT ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE.</P> <P> </P> <P>it sucks, yes, it could be better yes.  will it ever be changed no.</P> <P>Just be happy we dont have some ungodly lag machine animation like boney grasp is, could you imagine if every ice nova that went off it lagged out everyone near it?  that would not be fun.  </P> <P>MOTD becareful what you wish for.<BR></P>

[Admh]

    Westfiend's Ice Spear .. nuff said! <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

[wckron]

Rumil ur sigs makes u look cool BUT in reality ur a FAT GNOME<span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

[Jayingsoo]

<font color="#66ffcc">nope.  you can't say it will <u>never</u> change.  that's a pretty strong word, but you are right tho, it will be ignored until they have nothing better to do (which will be very far from now with all the new bugs that will be in EoF).  it's just that i don't think enough people will take the time to petition for it, and if they did i do think that people would consider it.  but it's not like glacial wind and shocking flash aren't lag machines already.  I just want something falling from the sky with a big boom sound when it hits and not something that every single mage class gets.</font>

[SacDaddy420]

I totally agree, the IN/IC animations are teh suck.  But IT has a good point, at least it only sucks to us.I like fusion's.  It aint much to look at and all, but noone ever mistakes that sound.Booyah.<div></div>

[suroktheslayer5]

I think the problem is that us wizzy's have been complaining about IC animation in the wrong forum. I'll go link this thread in the graphics forum.<span>:smileyhappy:</span> <div></div>

[Admh]

<div><blockquote><hr>wckronus wrote:Rumil ur sigs makes u look cool BUT in reality ur a FAT GNOME<span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>If ever there was a quest that i could change into a halfling, LET ME KNOW! <span>:smileymad:</span></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Admhel wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> wckronus wrote:<BR>Rumil ur sigs makes u look cool BUT in reality ur a FAT GNOME<SPAN>:smileytongue:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>If ever there was a quest that i could change into a halfling, LET ME KNOW! <SPAN>:smileymad:</SPAN><BR><BR><BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>uhm halfling illusion eye, from the halfling bone collection quest.

[littleman17]

<DIV>I'm not even a wizard, and I agree that the animation for this spell sucks and should have some kind of thing that makes the other classes go: O_O when they see it. Make it so spectacular that it needs it's own option to turn it off. (not that you'd want to to, but incase it is lagging you)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But as a ranger, I feel your pain... out of the bajilion ranged arts, my Double Shot line is the only one that looks even remotely special... all my ranged arts including Rain of Arrows and Sniper's Shot (my two best attacks) use the same exact animation as auto attacking with my bow... now how lame is that?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Oh, and by the way, bringing this up in the look&feel setion of the boards won't do much, the Devs pretty much ignore that section fot he forums... Your best bet is to go to Spells&Combat arts and make a thread with an eye catching and well written title. In this post, you should talk about how bad the IC animation is without saying the word dev, and without insulting SOE. If you can get lots of wizards from the boards to reply to the thread, also without using the word dev or insulting SOE, you will have a chance of it getting looked at. (Only about a 5% chance, but it is there!)</DIV>

[Zyphius]

<DIV>I understand how you feel about that, but, and not to nit pick at all, but isnt your ranged attacks all arrows? They are inanimate objects being propelled at the enemy. How much variations can one make in shooting arrows? Maybe a glowing arrow, or one with like a fire stream behind it or something, but thats about as far as I can think to really spice it up. Being a wizard with some pathetic animations for powerful arcane spells, I feel your pain, just trying to figure out what one could do to make shooting a bow look spectacular.</DIV>

[Jayingsoo]

<font color="#3399cc">haha, playing on a pvp server, it would be pretty fun to see your buddy's HP drop at the sound of a HUGE boom and a gigantic blue rock falling from the sky onto his dome with particle effects in the distance."oh god... they have a wizard... where's the brigand?  Sick'em boy!"=P</font><font color="#3399cc"></font><font color="#3399cc">But I know that there is a lot for the SoE team to think about that's more important than an animation.  Just.. if there is a "visuals" department, I hope they change it to something made of god and win <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I've never played any other mage class, but I group with them every day just like everybody else.  Yeah.. nothing special with their signature stuff either. =P  I should retitle this thread to "Signature/Defining mage spell animations actually defining/signature: On"  heheBut IC/IN first please =O</font>

[khelektasare]

/agreeI have thrown nastier looking snowballs at people when I was a kid. However, there a many things I would like to see fixed first...<div></div>

[Admh]

    Just put in the code for westfiend's Ice spear to replace the existing ice nova animation. how hard is that? that spell ROCKED when you a HUGE Ice BALL coming from the sky hitting the target! <span>:smileyindifferent:</span><div></div>

[Zyphius]

<DIV>I actually want that spell back!</DIV>

[Bludge]

Honestly, most of the spell animations suck, and most are the same for all classes.  Really sad, actually.

[BlkVpr]

I gotta say nay.  Look at the warlocks devastation/apocalypse.  They swirl their hands, winding up swirling dark energy, then toss it out trailing skulls...what do we do?  We throw a snowball...a snowball that hits for 10k+...but a snowball none the less.

[Titigabe]

I do agree!I've been complaining about this ridiculous spell animation on French language forum - Storms - ... But useless.I hope this one will be more efficient <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think magical effects are one of the most important cosmetic aspect in a game... especially in a fantasy world!I'm a bit fed up with seeing so many times the same spell animations such as lightning... But, back to the point: IN/IC should really be turned into something new, bigger!Not just the same animation increased, but someting very impressive.<div></div>

[Laiusta]

<cite>Zyphius wrote:</cite><blockquote> I understand how you feel about that, but, and not to nit pick at all, but isnt your ranged attacks all arrows? They are inanimate objects being propelled at the enemy. How much variations can one make in shooting arrows? Maybe a glowing arrow, or one with like a fire stream behind it or something, but thats about as far as I can think to really spice it up. Being a wizard with some pathetic animations for powerful arcane spells, I feel your pain, just trying to figure out what one could do to make shooting a bow look spectacular.<p></blockquote></p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjrao5baFs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYjrao5baFs</a></p><p>Of course you can make a bow attack or any weapon skill look cool, look at the second bow attack in that video.</p>

[Brigh]

Laiustaru is a necro.

[bunnykiller69]

<p>Ice comet needs an upgrade I can honestly say the eq1 graphic is better for this spell than eq2's. </p><p>As I once before have done a feedback in eq1 for this spell  I shall quote it, Ice comet needs to look like an ice comet coming out of the sky and panking the dude in the head. Not glittery nothing as it looked like before eq1 upgraded the graphic and as it now looks like the lame snowball in eq2.</p><p>Also further guys the greater disappointment is that ice nova looks like that same lame snowball...think both these spells need an upgrade in graphics. This is eq2 and these spells have worse graphics and animations than eq1 .....</p><p>I will give them a bit of credit at least mana burn looks cooler =)</p>

[iceriven2]

casting animation is simple but pretty...the comet leaving your hands and going to the mob is extremely under animated.  eq2 has some nice animations but to many recycled for some important spells and should be looked at.../agree

[ksux]

I think the animation should be based on the lore about how the spell actually works.  I've been told that in EQ1, when a wizard casts Ice Comet he is actually opening a portal above the target that is connected to a portal somewhere in the universe where the comets are located.  The comet falls through the portal and lands on the targets head, knocking the mob down and causing massive cold damage. How hard would it be to make some kind of a portal appear several feet above the target, and make a big snowball appear dropping on the target.  Of course there'd be particle effects to make it look really spiffy if you're not in a raiding situation. Seriously though, the snowballs that we've been throwing underhand softball slow-pitch style just don't do the spell justice.

[Teh_Person]

I always imagined a pretty straightforward ice comet...a wizard pulling an ice comet from space onto his target. Not that different than what we have now really. Just coming from above the target instead of from the wizard and, please, actual small comet sized, not ball of flames dipped in blue paint sized. Honestly neither version of this spell looks like what it should considering both versions are our original and current endgame spells.

[mcavellero]

I agree.  The animation is horrid....  Please change it.

[Squigglle]

<p>NAY!!!</p><p><img src="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2707/eq2000077zu3.jpg" border="0"></p>