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ToxicMan
10-14-2006, 06:02 PM
I've just started playing again after about 5 months doing other things,And my wizard is still here, only lvl 20 though.Anyway i've always loved do be mages in mmo's/rpg's and i'am wondering about continuing on my wizard.So i just want to know what you people think about the wizard in EQ2.- In groups, what is the wizards job?- Can it solo "okay"?- Positive and negative things about the wizard?- How are wizards in pvp?- Is the wizard an commonly choosed class?- Is it easy to get groups?Thats the questions i can come up with now, feel free to answere and add info you think is important.Thanks in advance =)

Timbers
10-14-2006, 06:20 PM
<P>I love my wiz <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I enjoy her every where i take her... But to keep to your list <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>1. Dps, Dps, Dps (and some feeding of power, rare but it happens)</P> <P>2. Solo plays good (all of course depending on the one behind the screen )</P> <P>3. neg: Unfocused and your a agro magnet, a bad tank will make your day a rainy one.   Pos: Fun to play, a challange to master</P> <P>4. Dunno <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  never tryed...</P> <P>5. Yeah, in a way yes.. not all grows up to be big tho</P> <P>6. I never had problems to get groups for what ever need or stuff i wanted to do.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

HomeChicken
10-14-2006, 07:28 PM
<DIV>i love my wizard, but i think wizard is one of the most popular classes, so there are a lot of them out there heh</DIV> <DIV>wizards are TERRIBLE in pvp, plain and simple, prolly one of the worst pvp classes in the game imo</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

-Immolatu
10-14-2006, 08:00 PM
wizzies suck, roll a scout<div></div>

TheBu
10-14-2006, 09:53 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> -Immolatus- wrote:<BR>wizzies suck, roll a scout<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I would agree</P> <P>They have more dps, more hasty stuff, more procs on weps, more deagro spells, more mit, more health and  more avoidance. O yea more util... Thats all i can think f now.</P> <P> </P> <P>TheBuzZ 70 wiz</P>

ToxicMan
10-14-2006, 09:57 PM
Thanks for the answeres so far.@Immolatus: Are you just trolling or? because it seems like you are playing an Wizard yourself?Anyway if you think the wizard suck, why?And i've tried to play a little on my Wizard, and i think i'll stick to him, so far its turned out fun to play.

garamondeld
10-15-2006, 02:30 AM
<DIV>Wizards are the highest dps in the game. I group with every race every day all the time, and I always parse twice as high as everyone else, rangers included. The only time I'm outdamaged in a group is by another wizard using freehand sorcery, somthing I haven't decided to go through with yet because I chose a different AA line. I went for faster casting/recovery first.</DIV>

wckron
10-15-2006, 11:39 AM
-Wizards are not the highest DPSer in the game(raid wise).....we're near the top BUT not the highest. It is purely situational really.....-Though we're a really good class to solo heroics named, the only class that I can think of on par with us in soloing is a Coercer-Other classes hate wizards because we solo named so easily that all the plat farmers almost always chooses a wizard as their main farming class*****Scouts sux, they cant soloed worth of crap****<div></div>

kajirala
10-15-2006, 05:15 PM
<DIV>I love my wizard and i never had trouble in groups. Only negative part is that i die every 5 seconds because i'm an aggro magnet but other then that wizards are a blast.</DIV>

StoneySilen
10-16-2006, 01:56 AM
<DIV>- In groups, what is the wizards job?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DPS, pure and simple.</DIV> <DIV><BR>- Can it solo "okay"?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Root and nuke, as long as your root lasts yes.  Pretty much soloed all the way to 55 with my wiz.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR>- Positive and negative things about the wizard?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Positive: Awesome damage spells.</DIV> <DIV>Negative: Awesome damage spells accrue lots of hate in huge batches, and we are squishy.</DIV> <DIV><BR>- How are wizards in pvp?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Pretty weak at the low levels but soon as you get Ice Comet and some of the higher levels spells, if you get the drop on a player you can usually kill them in 1 hit.  But if they get the drop on you, your toast.</DIV> <DIV><BR>- Is the wizard an commonly choosed class?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>VERY common class.</DIV> <DIV><BR>- Is it easy to get groups?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I haven't had too much trouble.</DIV>

Wossname
10-18-2006, 12:36 AM
<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>ToxicMan wrote:I've just started playing again after about 5 months doing other things,And my wizard is still here, only lvl 20 though.Anyway i've always loved do be mages in mmo's/rpg's and i'am wondering about continuing on my wizard.So i just want to know what you people think about the wizard in EQ2.- In groups, what is the wizards job?<font color="#ffff00">DPS - it's all you have. OK maybe evac occasionally</font><font color="#ffff00"> if it won't zone you out.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font>- Can it solo "okay"?<font color="#ffff00">Depends on your definition of "okay" </font><font color="#ffff00"><span>:smileytongue:</span></font><font color="#ffff00"> There are many worse classes to solo with. Upgrade your root spells and ignore the DoT's</font>- Positive and negative things about the wizard?<font color="#ffff00">For me:</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">+   You get to blow stuff up with terribly impressive sounding spells. Feels like you're really doing something when you let off a big spell and the mob's health bar moves visibly.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">+   Trolls in dresses look amusingly silly and stick in people's memory (OK, that's probably only a + for me personally)</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">+   Fire/Ice spells have nicer graphics than the poison/disease ones</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">+   Occasionally people look at your damage numbers and ask, "HOW MUCH?" Not much in the later levels but it's nice early on.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">-   Hate management and your almost total lack of it. You're going to die. A lot. More than practically anyone you meet, in fact. Unless you are lazy and not doing your job. Make friends with a Paladin or a Troubadour. They can help hugely with your hate. So much so that you should consider putting them on bungee rope so you can always have them around. Seriously...</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">-   Power usage. Wizards going full DPS are usually out of power faster than any other class except a priest with App 1 heals.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">-   Spell costs. Maaaany Wizards so Master spells are very expensive. Not quite up there with Summoner pets but pretty pricey. On Lucan at least.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">-   Huge cast times. Get used to seeing "Target is not alive." Especially on undead mobs <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font>- How are wizards in pvp?<font color="#ffff00">Loathe PvP with a passion. Can't comment but given the huge cast times I'd guess pretty bad.</font>- Is the wizard an commonly choosed class?<font color="#ffff00">And then some...</font>- Is it easy to get groups?<font color="#ffff00">My Wizard is pretty much the only toon I play outside a guild group so hard to tell. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. DPS is common but so is the need for it.</font>Thats the questions i can come up with now, feel free to answere and add info you think is important.Thanks in advance =)<hr></blockquote></div>

Ultimatum
10-18-2006, 01:05 AM
I'd have to disagree with Wizards being terrible in PvP.  Yes, resists are an issue and can be very annoying, but I only really have i big problem with resists against maybe 50% of the players from the big raiding guilds on the server.  And I can assure you, raiding guilds on PvP don't really account for the majority of the server (at least not the one I play on)  On top of that, the only issue is soloing where against a melee class with capped resists it is almost impossible to take them out, especially with your Ice Nova hitting for 800.  Group and raid pvp is a completely different beast though.  Reguardless of what other will say, Sorcerers can really decimate a group in pvp, especially if you work well with the debuffing classes in your own group.  Glacial Winds, Forge of Ro, Firestorm, and Fusion can rip a group to shreds in short order.  Absolutely love my wizard in PvP, just as much as I do raiding with him.  Survivability, however, is for the most part directly impacted by your group, guild, and especially your healers.<div></div>

Kamuj
10-21-2006, 05:56 AM
<blockquote><hr>ToxicMan wrote:I've just started playing again after about 5 months doing other things,And my wizard is still here, only lvl 20 though.Anyway i've always loved do be mages in mmo's/rpg's and i'am wondering about continuing on my wizard.So i just want to know what you people think about the wizard in EQ2.- In groups, what is the wizards job?- Can it solo "okay"?- Positive and negative things about the wizard?- How are wizards in pvp?- Is the wizard an commonly choosed class?- Is it easy to get groups?Thats the questions i can come up with now, feel free to answere and add info you think is important.Thanks in advance =)<hr></blockquote>A wizards group role is DPS. They are well equipt for this role.Wizards are terrible soloist for about 99.5% of the game. For about 0.5% of the game they are awesome soloist. What does this mean? Well, if you want to dungeon crawl and kill group content (IE Blue/White Heroic^^^) throughout your whole leveling range, wizards are not for you. If you want to kill a small number of high profile targets solo, then wizards are your speed.Don't buy the "guy behind the screen arguement" thats self serving drivel. My skills don't triple when I log on my Warden, Paly, etc, but my characters relative power does triple AT LEAST. Playing a priest class in EQ2 is like wearing a god suit compared to my equally well geared wizard.I don't PvP as a wizard, but I love to PvP against wizards. They die fast and easy. I hate having wizards in my group because all they do is brag about how big their nukes are right before they get stunned and killed 2 seconds later.At high levels wizards are a really fun raid class. Post 50, they finally get some power to make up for all the weaknesses. If you like high end raiding, they are quite fun for that role and well in demand.

Jayingsoo
10-21-2006, 01:05 PM
<font color="#66ffff">I play a wizard on the venekor pvp server, and all i have to say is wizards are an extremely fun class to play!  I duo'd with a mystic through about 90% of the game and just he and I took on groups of 3-4 (and red targets unthinkable for solo pvp) even to green cons.  Wizard is insanely powerful, however quite useless at level 70 with the backwards resist system (hope that gets fixed in November).  Wizards pwn and there really isn't much else to say.  Level 40 you get your group root (amazing for soloing), 52 you get a 75% snare (life saver), and of course stepping back 2 levels you get ice comet, and we all know what that is capable of on blue servers.  god help you on a pvp server, but still fun as heck.  Interrupts when you're young, resists when you're old.  Lock your pvp wizard at 52 and you're set for the rest of your pvp life! =P</font>

wckron
10-21-2006, 02:00 PM
<div></div>Wizard PWN, thats it<span>:smileywink:</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by wckronus on <span class=date_text>10-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:05 AM</span>

Myr
10-22-2006, 02:51 AM
I love my finger wiggler (as we're refered to)<div></div>

SalBlu
10-24-2006, 07:01 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ToxicMan wrote:<BR>I've just started playing again after about 5 months doing other things,<BR>And my wizard is still here, only lvl 20 though.<BR><BR>Anyway i've always loved do be mages in mmo's/rpg's and i'am wondering about continuing on my wizard.<BR>So i just want to know what you people think about the wizard in EQ2.<BR><BR>- In groups, what is the wizards job?<BR>- Can it solo "okay"?<BR>- Positive and negative things about the wizard?<BR>- How are wizards in pvp?<BR>- Is the wizard an commonly choosed class?<BR>- Is it easy to get groups?<BR><BR>Thats the questions i can come up with now, feel free to answere and add info you think is important.<BR>Thanks in advance =)<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I played a wizard from the start of the game up until a few weeks ago.  I joined in various guilds, but the majority of my time has been spent raiding.  I think that what I hated the most about my Wizard was the lack of equipment that did much of anything for me.  I saw Fighters and Scouts getting gear that increased their performance, gave them nice abilities... and then I looked at myself and other Mages in my guild.  Aside from items that have a chance to proc... there's nothing that's very impressive at all.  Nothing that solidly increases our damage potential. </P> <P>So I switched.  I gave up on my Wizard and made my Assassin into my main toon, and never looked back.  I keep my Wizard around for grinding mobs for cash or harvesting, but that's about it.  After getting my Assassin to 70 and starting to outfit her, I had trouble going back to being a glass cannon.  My Assassin can keep her power pool filled with the use of Mental Breach poisons, she can wear chain armor, gets neat looking items, can move around while casting, has invis and evac... My Assassin is basically the close up version of my Wizard with better armor.</P> <P>I dunno... I still really enjoy my Wizard, but I like my Assassin a little bit more.  My Wizard is always going to be better at soloing though, and she brings more to the table in terms of buffs.</P><p>Message Edited by SalBluee on <span class=date_text>10-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:41 AM</span>

SalBlu
10-24-2006, 07:01 PM
<P> </P><p>Message Edited by SalBluee on <span class=date_text>10-24-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:02 AM</span>

wckron
10-25-2006, 03:02 AM
Everyone has their own taste, I also have an assassin and a wizard, the assassin at lvl 52 (created b4 my wiz) and the wizard is at 70. For some reason I dont like getting up close and personal in raid, sometime in raid you have to move in and out as an assassin but for the wizard I can lazily sit there and bomb on the mobs without worrying about getting hit by the AoE.<div></div>

SacDaddy420
10-25-2006, 05:48 PM
I <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 my wizSeriously   I've spent alot of time honing my skills as this class.  I've studied parser lists for hours after I've logged.  Honestly, (I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but, meh) there's only 2-3 wizards on AB that could give me a run for the top spot in a single group DPS situation.  There is nothing more satisfying to me than jumping into some pickup group thats advertising for  DPS, and blowing their minds with what I can do.  I die sometimes (ok,  alot)  but nobody has more fun.  And 90% of the time, the mobs die first.  I've never had problems soloing cuz I've always followed the rules.I get my [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] handed to me in pvp  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

Robsco
10-25-2006, 08:23 PM
<P><FONT color=#cc0066>--------------Kamulin wrote-----------------</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cc0066>---------------Wizards are terrible soloist for about 99.5% of the game. For about 0.5% of the game they are awesome soloist. What does this mean? Well, if you want to dungeon crawl and kill group content (IE Blue/White Heroic^^^) throughout your whole leveling range, wizards are not for you. If you want to kill a small number of high profile targets solo, then wizards are your speed.---------------------------------------------</FONT></P> <P>This may be true depending on level but once you have your group root you rock.</P> <P>Group Root, Single target root, PBAO Slow. You can manage 1 group of 12 targets I think. and you have a really low recast single target. There are many techniques to only get 1 group at a time during a solo dungeon crawl. It just takes some thinking outside of the box and practice.</P> <P>In actuality I would say the complete opposite. I would say wizard can solo about 90% of the content. This is my experience at least. I am waiting for soe to swing the nerf bat at us personally for soloing wise.</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis<BR></P> <P> </P>

Kamuj
10-28-2006, 08:37 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Robsco wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#cc0066>--------------Kamulin wrote-----------------</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cc0066>---------------Wizards are terrible soloist for about 99.5% of the game. For about 0.5% of the game they are awesome soloist. What does this mean? Well, if you want to dungeon crawl and kill group content (IE Blue/White Heroic^^^) throughout your whole leveling range, wizards are not for you. If you want to kill a small number of high profile targets solo, then wizards are your speed.---------------------------------------------</FONT></P> <P>This may be true depending on level but once you have your group root you rock.</P> <P>Group Root, Single target root, PBAO Slow. You can manage 1 group of 12 targets I think. and you have a really low recast single target. There are many techniques to only get 1 group at a time during a solo dungeon crawl. It just takes some thinking outside of the box and practice.</P> <P>In actuality I would say the complete opposite. I would say wizard can solo about 90% of the content. This is my experience at least. I am waiting for soe to swing the nerf bat at us personally for soloing wise.</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Its not a question of can / can't. Its not a question of Learn2Play.</P> <P>My warden dungeon crawls better then my wizard at every level. It handles resists better at every level. It doesn't die as easily at every level.  Seriously.</P> <P>Shockingly, the REAL DPS is pretty darned close when you don't have to throw out half your spells for fear of breaking a root.</P> <P>As I said before, my skill as a player does not increase when I switch characters, but the strengths of my character clearly do.</P> <P>You can debate it, logic it, deny it, but all you need to do is try it and I believe you will find that I am right.</P> <P> </P> <P>I am not telling to hate your wiz. If you read my entire post you will see that I also make positive points about the wizard class, especially at the upper levels.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Kamujin on <span class=date_text>10-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:52 PM</span>

Robsco
10-29-2006, 02:24 AM
<P> </P> <P>All I was saying is that you stated 99.5% of the content wizard are terriable soloiest.</P> <P>That is far from the truth. Ever see a plat farmer on your server. I bet you he or she is a wizard =)</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robert OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis</P>

Robsco
10-29-2006, 03:25 AM
<P> </P> <P>And no you dont have to throw out half your spells for fear of breaking root.</P> <P>Stack your group root and your single root. You can be in Burn mode if you do this correctly.</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome oasis</P> <P> </P>

Kamuj
10-29-2006, 09:37 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Robsco wrote:<BR> <P> </P> <P>All I was saying is that you stated 99.5% of the content wizard are terriable soloiest.</P> <P>That is far from the truth. Ever see a plat farmer on your server. I bet you he or she is a wizard =)</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robert OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I am sure the people looking to play plat farmers will be happy for your endorsement.</P> <P>For those looking to experience to greatest amount of the game solo, even you have not directly challenged my assertions.</P>

Robsco
10-30-2006, 11:38 AM
<P> </P> <P>Im not endorsing anything. This is a fact most Plat farmers pick a wizard to solo with. Do you deny that on your server this is not the case ?</P> <P>Now why would Plat Farmers do this? Okay lets not even call them Plat Farmers anymore. Lets call them people who camp names 24/7.</P> <P>Is it because Wizards are such terriable soloiest they do this? They can pick any class they want but they dont.</P> <P>I personally love soloing with my wizard. I can do most Solo and Heroic quests by msyelf, I can do a dungeon crawl in Nest if I would like. Of course I prefere this to be a social game but when i can not find a group I have options to take matters into my own hands =)</P> <P>This really comes down to personal preference.  Thats all I am saying.</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis.</P>

Kamuj
10-30-2006, 07:23 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Robsco wrote:<BR> <P> </P> <P>Im not endorsing anything. This is a fact most Plat farmers pick a wizard to solo with. Do you deny that on your server this is not the case ?</P> <P>Now why would Plat Farmers do this? Okay lets not even call them Plat Farmers anymore. Lets call them people who camp names 24/7.</P> <P>Is it because Wizards are such terriable soloiest they do this? They can pick any class they want but they dont.</P> <P>I personally love soloing with my wizard. I can do most Solo and Heroic quests by msyelf, I can do a dungeon crawl in Nest if I would like. Of course I prefere this to be a social game but when i can not find a group I have options to take matters into my own hands =)</P> <P>This really comes down to personal preference.  Thats all I am saying.</P> <P>Thanks</P> <P>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Well, they pick them for plat farmers for the reason that I stated in my original post. In all fairness, you simply reworded a point that I already made and tried to argue me onto the other side.</P> <P>I agree that its an issue of personal preference.</P> <P>Having personally soloed extensively with wizards, necros, wardens, paly's, and templars, I think my opinions are well supported by the facts.</P> <P>Wizards have their strengths, but if you really want to solo with the fewest limitations, the wizard ranks poorly in that list.</P> <P>As I said in my first post, wizards have alot to offer, especially post 50 raiding. They are good enough in this area to make them a good class.</P> <P>I don't see the need to exagerate their performance in other areas to make them look better.</P> <P> </P>

Robsco
10-30-2006, 11:48 PM
Kamujin did you or did you not write this? --------Wizards are terrible soloist for about 99.5% of the game. For about 0.5% of the game they are awesome soloist.-------- Well which is it Kamujin. People pick wizards so they can be terriable soloiest for 99.5% of the game and rock for the other 0.5% I highly doubt that statement you made is correct. How did you come up with that %. With some extremely complex formula or is that based on your opinion. How is telling you what my wizard and any others wizard can accomplish in game be exaggerating. I am using the same game mechanics that all wizards can use. How did I make your point in my previous comment.  Stop grasping for straws and answer my question will ya =) Its a shame when I log into eq2 and I can only do .5% of the content by myself because wizard suck so bad at soloing... man I think I need to re-roll my toon =) Im done with this Thread. I will let you have the last word which based on your previous replys you will take advantage of . Mind you not well but in anycase you will respond =) Thanks Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis<div></div>

wckron
10-31-2006, 09:32 AM
Transfer you toon to Kithicor Kamujin and I'll show you what soloing is about as a wizard<span> <span>:smileywink:</span></span><div></div>

Kamuj
11-01-2006, 06:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Robsco wrote:<BR>Kamujin did you or did you not write this? <BR><BR>--------Wizards are terrible soloist for about 99.5% of the game. For about 0.5% of the game they are awesome soloist.--------<BR><BR>Well which is it Kamujin. People pick wizards so they can be terriable soloiest for 99.5% of the game and rock for the other 0.5%<BR><BR>I highly doubt that statement you made is correct. How did you come up with that %. With some extremely complex formula or is that based on your opinion. <BR><BR>How is telling you what my wizard and any others wizard can accomplish in game be exaggerating. I am using the same game mechanics that all wizards can use.<BR><BR>How did I make your point in my previous comment.  Stop grasping for straws and answer my question will ya =)<BR><BR>Its a shame when I log into eq2 and I can only do .5% of the content by myself because wizard suck so bad at soloing... man I think I need to re-roll my toon =)<BR><BR>Im done with this Thread. I will let you have the last word which based on your previous replys you will take advantage of . Mind you not well but in anycase you will respond =)<BR><BR>Thanks<BR>Robsco OfSteamfont the Humble Gnome Oasis <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Your rambling. </P> <P>Your mis-reading.</P> <P>And again, you fail to attack the core points of my post.</P> <P>Thanks for your contribution and a lively discussion.</P> <P> </P>

Kamuj
11-01-2006, 06:53 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> wckronus wrote:<BR>Transfer you toon to Kithicor Kamujin and I'll show you what soloing is about as a wizard<SPAN><SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN></SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Better yet, I'll transfer my other toons and show you what its like for the rest of the game. :smileywink: (Yes, I can smileywink too)</P> <P>Then you will get the point of my original post.</P>

wckron
11-01-2006, 07:11 PM
<div></div>Got one word for ya Kamujin, Ritalin, stop being so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] negative and also, everyone have their own opinion so let people have their own respective opinion.Also u stated that ur warden can dungeon crawls better then wizards, BS:Poets - try it and see wat happenedCazel Mesa - soloNest - soloRoost in Clefts - soloSilent City - solo..........and those are just some of the place I can solo.<div></div><p>Message Edited by wckronus on <span class=date_text>11-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:22 AM</span>

Kamuj
11-01-2006, 07:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> wckronus wrote:<BR> Got one word for ya Kamujin, Ritalin, stop being so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] negative and also, everyone have their own opinion so let people have their own respective opinion.<BR>Also u stated that ur warden can dungeon crawls better then wizards, BS:<BR>Poets - try it and see wat happened<BR>Cazel Mesa - solo<BR>Nest - solo<BR>Roost in Clefts - solo<BR>Silent City - solo<BR>..........and those are just some of the place I can solo.<BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by wckronus on <SPAN class=date_text>11-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:22 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Can you say "projection"?</P> <P>I said positive as well as negative things. I am sorry your ego lives in such a fragile glass house.</P> <P>Wizards are cool as some things, and not so cool at others. Get over it.</P> <P> </P>

IllusiveThoughts
11-01-2006, 09:33 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kamujin wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> wckronus wrote:<BR> Got one word for ya Kamujin, Ritalin, stop being so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] negative and also, everyone have their own opinion so let people have their own respective opinion.<BR>Also u stated that ur warden can dungeon crawls better then wizards, BS:<BR>Poets - try it and see wat happened<BR>Cazel Mesa - solo<BR>Nest - solo<BR>Roost in Clefts - solo<BR>Silent City - solo<BR>..........and those are just some of the place I can solo.<BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by wckronus on <SPAN class=date_text>11-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:22 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Can you say "projection"?</P> <P>I said positive as well as negative things. I am sorry your ego lives in such a fragile glass house.</P> <P>Wizards are cool as some things, and not so cool at others. Get over it.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>He's arguing against your point about wizards being terrible soloists and your rebuttal is to attack him personally.  I've been watching your responses, and when someone challenges your opinion, you either attack them, or dodge their points all together.  That is not a healthy discussion.  You are simply stuck on stupid that wizards are not good soloists compared to the rest of the classes out there.</P> <P>I think everyone agree's we aren't the *best* but to try and say that we suck at soloing 99% of this game is completely false, and any arguements against that are entirely *your* opinion and not the rest of the wizard populace.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on <span class=date_text>11-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:34 AM</span>

Kamuj
11-01-2006, 09:39 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kamujin wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> wckronus wrote:<BR> Got one word for ya Kamujin, Ritalin, stop being so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] negative and also, everyone have their own opinion so let people have their own respective opinion.<BR>Also u stated that ur warden can dungeon crawls better then wizards, BS:<BR>Poets - try it and see wat happened<BR>Cazel Mesa - solo<BR>Nest - solo<BR>Roost in Clefts - solo<BR>Silent City - solo<BR>..........and those are just some of the place I can solo.<BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by wckronus on <SPAN class=date_text>11-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>06:22 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Can you say "projection"?</P> <P>I said positive as well as negative things. I am sorry your ego lives in such a fragile glass house.</P> <P>Wizards are cool as some things, and not so cool at others. Get over it.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>He's arguing against your point about wizards being terrible soloists and your rebuttal is to attack him personally.  I've been watching your responses, and when someone challenges your opinion, you either attack them, or dodge their points all together.  That is not a healthy discussion.  You are simply stuck on stupid that wizards are not good soloists compared to the rest of the classes out there.</P> <P>I think everyone agree's we aren't the *best* but to try and say that we suck at soloing 99% of this game is completely false, and any arguements against that are entirely *your* opinion and not the rest of the wizard populace.<BR></P> <P>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on <SPAN class=date_text>11-01-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:34 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>How out of place my opinions are in a thread titled "Your opinions of the wizard?"</P> <P>Please show me one instance in this entire thread where I "attacked" someone FIRST?</P> <P>I'll save you the time. There are none. I have only responded to you "kool aid" drinkers when you cry because someone doesn't mindlessly say "wizards pwn".</P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>The fact is the only "challenge" to my original statement seems to be the arguement that wizards make good plat farmers. </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>1) This is a point that I do not deny. </SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>2) This is what I was refering to with my 0.5% statement.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>3) This is not something that makes me proud to play a wizard.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text>I am much more proud of my wizards ability in raids then I am at its ability to farm plats. Sorry, thats just me.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Kamujin on <span class=date_text>11-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:48 AM</span>

SacDaddy420
11-03-2006, 03:36 AM
Wizards Pwn   <span>:smileywink:</span><div></div>

wckron
11-03-2006, 06:47 AM
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JohnDoe059
11-08-2006, 08:00 PM
<P>As a wizard in raid, group, or solo........................if your dps gets above pathetic "YOU ARE NOW THE TANK".</P> <P>Is this an exageration?  Yes, but not mutch of one.</P> <P>We are fun to play if you ignore the parse or constant rezes.</P> <P>Personaly I find death prety funny <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  my raid leader don't <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I luv my wizzy and the epic mobbs luv the way my wizzy tastes.</P> <P>Did i mention we have an aggro issue ?</P>

wckron
11-08-2006, 08:26 PM
<span>:smileyindifferent:</span>OMG here we go again.......... u know what I think:If u cant do good dps and not keeping aggro off of you, means u suck. I seen plenty of wizard that can do amazing DPS and NOT die.<div></div>

Zyphius
11-08-2006, 09:21 PM
<DIV>Golf clap....</DIV>

EagleEye4
03-05-2007, 02:28 PM
<p>ok children for those who believe that wizards are classed with slow cast/recast timers and massive spell power requirements u obvioulsy arent specked proplerly and dont know your toon my advice is to take another look at your sorcerer tree under agility and wisdom.</p><p>Maligna-70 wiz/sage (bazzar)</p><p>Beligna-48 swash (bazzar)</p>

IllusiveThoughts
03-05-2007, 04:13 PM
<cite>EagleEye452 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>ok children for those who believe that wizards are classed with slow cast/recast timers and massive spell power requirements u obvioulsy arent specked proplerly and dont know your toon my advice is to take another look at your sorcerer tree under agility and wisdom.</p><p>Maligna-70 wiz/sage (bazzar)</p><p>Beligna-48 swash (bazzar)</p></blockquote> why revive a 4 month old thread?

Calh
03-05-2007, 10:56 PM
to start new conversation, thats why.

KassieEmma
06-07-2007, 03:19 PM
<p>In groups, what is the wizard's job?</p><p><b>My job in a raid or group is to burn down the mobs and top the parser without drawing aggro.</b></p><p> - Can it solo "okay"?</p><p><b>I can effectively solo by rooting and blasting my target.  This goes for single target, duos, trios, and heroics.</b></p><p> - Positive and negative things about the wizard?</p><p><b>Positive- Major direct-damage.  My highest Manaburn to date is 87k.  I love topping the parse in a group or raid.</b></p><p><b>Positive- Love the ability to port and evacs.  Makes getting around Norrath quick and painless.</b></p><p><b>Negatives- I am a "squishy" AKA a one-shot wonder.</b>  </p><p> - How are wizards in pvp?</p><p><b>I don't do PvP, but in duels I am terrible.  Perhaps in PvP I could sneak up on someone and root them, I could kill them with a few high-damage hits before they became unrooted.</b></p><p> - Is the wizard a commonly choosed class?</p><p><b>Aye, I checked the numbers on my server, and Wizards seem to be very popular.  I often hear people say the DPS classes are a dime-a-dozen. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></b></p><p> - Is it easy to get groups?</p><p><b>Yep, people love to group with Wizzies.</b></p><p><b>I have 7 toons, and I must say that my Wizzy is my favorite.  I am addicted to damage and love to burn things down quickly.</b></p><p><b>Enjoy!</b></p><p><b>Love the Wizard's Creed, <b>IllusiveThoughts</b>.  It's so true. <img src="/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></b></p>

slippery
06-08-2007, 05:49 AM
Necro posting ftw.

Haz
06-08-2007, 04:05 PM
<span style="color: #66ccff">As a wizard in raid, group, or solo........................if your dps gets above pathetic "YOU ARE NOW THE TANK". ^ [Removed for Content]. I laughed hard at that. Anyways, I had a Wizard up to 16, then took a break from EQ2 for a while. I made a new Arasai Wiz and it's really fun. The Wiz is my favorite class besides the Warden and Ranger. =] I didn't die often or anything, and I had sucky spells. Yeah...um that' it for me. C= </span>

Pumancat
06-09-2007, 12:40 AM
<cite>StoneySilence wrote:</cite><blockquote> - In groups, what is the wizards job? DPS, pure and simple. - Can it solo "okay"? Root and nuke, as long as your root lasts yes.  Pretty much soloed all the way to 55 with my wiz. - Positive and negative things about the wizard? Positive: Awesome damage spells. Negative: Awesome damage spells accrue lots of hate in huge batches, and we are squishy.Also seems our deaggro sucks. - How are wizards in pvp? Pretty weak at the low levels but soon as you get Ice Comet and some of the higher levels spells, if you get the drop on a player you can usually kill them in 1 hit.  But if they get the drop on you, your toast.<span style="color: #cc3333">At lvl 70, you're a token bot for most melee classes ( depending on player), but can expect a decent fight with other mage classes. And you will NOT kill anyone with one shot.</span> - Is the wizard an commonly choosed class? VERY common class.<span style="color: #cc3333">Agree</span> - Is it easy to get groups? I haven't had too much trouble. <span style="color: #cc3333">Agree</span><span style="color: #cc3333">Nyarlath - 70 wizard</span><span style="color: #cc3333">Venekor server</span></blockquote>