Ideal raid grouping

[valkyrja]

As a wizard who recently began raiding a lot more, I'm curious to see what people feel is the most effective group makeup for a wizard to be in during raids.<div></div>

[Nightwo|f]

Troubs are good for deagro and procs of course. Then either a shammy or druid (or both) for hp and power buffs, especially furies after EoF when they raise the stat cap.

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> sparql wrote:<BR>As a wizard who recently began raiding a lot more, I'm curious to see what people feel is the most effective group makeup for a wizard to be in during raids.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>most effective for the <U>wizard</U></P> <P>paly</P> <P>Illusionist</P> <P>troubador</P> <P>fury</P> <P>inquisitor</P> <P>wizard</P> <P> </P> <P>most effective for the <U>raid</U></P> <P>warlock/conj</P> <P>wizard</P> <P>troub</P> <P>assasin/brig/swash</P> <P>inquis</P> <P> </P> <P>however with the stat cap max's going up I think we'll see a large mix of groups in the future.</P>

[valkyrja]

Thanks for breaking it down like that Illusive.<div></div>

[TheBu]

<DIV>1. Troubador you have to have period. power regen, 40% agro reduction, 40% recast reduction and alot of stuff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2. fury with health over time and int buff incase u need to gear for resists.</DIV> <P>3. a tank with agro reduction..  yea pally is great with 40% agro transfer and the group transfer he has..  but hay u know he might get killed doing it... other tanks can just reduce the hate by around 35%. and well can u get the pally to to use gift of armor and his addition avoidance check.</P> <P>corser or illu... for more power...   but hay they can proc u even if ur not in the group for degro</P> <P>a conj goes really well with a wiz with our str and int buff, and hay he can give u mit...  just incase u need.<BR>or a warlock with their buff for spells</P> <P> </P> <P>o yea me a wizzy</P> <P>but hay this is all a dream.. I love just have 1,2 and 3.. . but sometimes even that justa  dream..</P> <P>now rember MT group is really more important for getting agro with Coercer,Dirge and some other agro transfer..</P> <P>I cant rember about the inquis..<BR><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=32713" target=_blank><SPAN>IllusiveThoughts</SPAN></A>  said something about a inquis,  I forget what buff they have. might be an aa with some kinda spell haste?</P> <P>TheBuzZ</P>

[Jezekie]

TroubadorInquisitorShadowknight (Death March <3)WizardAssassin/Brigand/RangerPaladin (Amends, or replace for another Assassin/Ranger/Brigand)Coercer (Harmonious link cross raid raid)Illusionist (Dynamism cross raid)Alternative setupConjuror/NecromancerConjuror/Necromancer/WarlockWizardFuryTroubadorAssassin/Brigand/Ranger

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheBuzZ wrote:<BR> <P>I cant rember about the inquis..<BR><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=32713" target=_blank><SPAN>IllusiveThoughts</SPAN></A>  said something about a inquis,  I forget what buff they have. might be an aa with some kinda spell haste?</P> <P>TheBuzZ</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>they have a 3min recast group buff that lowers cast timers and recast timers for a short duration, and makes me go oop very fast.  it's nice to time with a fusion run in, to eliminate the time needed to spend casting it while in aoe range.<BR>

[HomeChicken]

<DIV>id have to say best for the wizard would be</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>guardian</DIV> <DIV>paladin</DIV> <DIV>troub</DIV> <DIV>illusionist</DIV> <DIV>inq</DIV> <DIV>wizard</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>but thats basicly 5 people whos job is to buff the wizard heh</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>average group around here is just like illusive said, or close</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>conjy, wizard, *insert random healer here, a lot of times its a fury for the power buff* troub, a scout or tank class to get procs, and another caster (warlock, wizard, conjy, whatever)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>id love to see the dps i could do if i had the top group setup heh</DIV> <DIV>moderate, amends, troub deagro, synergism, double regen, inq casting speed buff, and me just nuking my brains out.... mmmmm</DIV> <DIV>/starts to drool thinking of the dps</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Renaven]

<DIV>First you copy my AA's, and now you copy my idea of the perfect group to *buff* a Wizard.  I hate you Home. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But yeah, as Home and Illusive said, we'll never ever have the perfect group to buff the Wizard during a raid.  It's about bettering the raid, not the Wizard -- so you'll almost never find a Pally and Guardian in the Mage group.  Right now I'd take an Inquis over Fury, but after the changes, I'd love to have both in the group. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[HomeChicken]

<DIV>yah ren you only hate me because I > you... sorry to break the news to ya!</DIV> <DIV>oh yah i didnt copy nothin heh, i would think that everyone would see that as the best possible buff setup you could get out of 5 people, heh</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>hehehe</DIV> <DIV>yah im thinkin its time to start being more *me* oriented, and start forming up raids just to make me teh uber, hell when our MT forms up the raids he always forms his group thinking only about himself... no one complains then, why cant i??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and yah you see paladins or guardians in my group if we dont have a troub online heh, the paladin complains but the guardian normally gets good buffs so he is happy <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by HomeChicken on <span class=date_text>10-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:17 PM</span>