View Full Version : too much DPS !
ailees
09-28-2006, 11:51 AM
I met a problem that I never met before : too much possible DPS.when you want to fight the crab named in fallen dinasty, you must not go over 600 DPS, or adds will spawn.an not one cast better then 6K.OK, then you don't cast IN, nor fusion, don't use any catalyst.I just made one try, and was casting so low (and was not the only one I bet) then we went OOP and wiped stupidly. And feeding MT lowers more my DPS.I wonder how you can know that you are at, let's say 500 DPS... does ACT allow that ? funny problem, never had it before.<div></div>
White Russi
09-28-2006, 12:08 PM
<P>Use the minparse feature and set it to update at short intervals and have it 'always on top'. It will lag like a mofo if your computer is not half decent but it gives you an idea of your current DPS.</P> <P>Sir Viko Din</P> <P>Wizard of Evolution, Splitpaw</P>
ailees
09-28-2006, 01:35 PM
thank you, I forgot that ! because i use ACT more for studies after fight than for online computing.OK, I'll try... next week if I remember well the lock out time.<div></div>
HerzenFunia
09-28-2006, 02:56 PM
What i'am usually doing there is: casting IN, surging tempest, our debuff, and sometimes bol nad iceshield. All other time i'am feedint myself and someone else (mt or healer) with pwr. Also using vitalic cropping there. Burning only when adds spawn with fusion and other big stuff. At the end of the fight i have 50-70% of pwr usually. Also 1 manaregen in both grps like bards or chanters.
IllusiveThoughts
09-28-2006, 06:28 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote:<BR>thank you, I forgot that ! because i use ACT more for studies after fight than for online computing.<BR>OK, I'll try... next week if I remember well the lock out time.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>make sure you change the settings on the miniparse window to update every 1 seconds or the figures you get wont be reliable.</P> <P>I have this open on every raid so I can use it as a dps meter, like for example</P> <P>I pull agro at 1800 spike while doing 1600 dps, and on aoe fight doing 2k pull agro at 2400 spike, then I know when i approach those figures, I need to hold off on using big nukes (IN/ FUSION) until my dps drops off to around 1500 then i can safely spike to 1700 and teter back down to 1600.</P> <P>very useful tool for agro management.</P>
ailees
09-28-2006, 06:31 PM
the problem is not aggro, but I've been ask no Fusion, not even IN, and no more than 599 DPS...if the raid leader is asking for that, I will certainly not being 1K DPS, just to see what occurs !<div></div>
Yes, Some mobs they have designed to wipe (or add difficulty for ) a raid if you pull agro. Sorcerers are notorious for pulling agro <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.Some other high end guild raiders say that mobs like the crab teach one to suck at one's class. Hehe, even though funny, it isn't the whole truth. The reality is, it is a mob made for 12 people that requires that some basic cooporation is executed in order that you don't wipe. It doesn't require the best that the best can do, and I don't think it was meant to. It was meant as a raid most guilds can do if they put some thought into it and learn to measure their output by their ability to hold agro and do a few other non-zerging skills (not going to spell it all out for the guilds who want to learn on their own).Your raid leader is right, fusion, etc. really isn't needed for crab. Having certain classes and/or learning to balance output with agro is.In the end, the real goal should be to kill the mob, not kill the raid while making the top of the parse. As a sorcerer, it is sometime hard to resist the temptations.Fewson - Level 70 WizzyDark HorizonThe Bazaar<p>Message Edited by Fewson on <span class=date_text>09-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:29 AM</span>
IllusiveThoughts
09-28-2006, 08:53 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote:<BR>the problem is not aggro, but I've been ask no Fusion, not even IN, and no more than 599 DPS...<BR>if the raid leader is asking for that, I will certainly not being 1K DPS, just to see what occurs !<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I understand that allies, I was giving an example of how it is useful aside from your specific encounter.
ailees
09-29-2006, 10:34 AM
>it's hard to resist the temptationoh yes ! my fingers were flying 2 centimeters from some keys.. so many i was ordered NOT to use. No casting more than 6000 damages is not easy for a wizard with freehand and catalyst. Not at all my cup of tea ! just like asking an ogre to dance like a mouse.<div></div>
SacDaddy420
10-05-2006, 03:10 PM
<font size="4">Ya I'm pretty much feeding power that whole fight. At least up until the last few seconds.... LOL. It is hard sometimes.......We've killed the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] thing a hundred times, and the one time, THE ONE TIME I wasn't there it dropped the meridian eye.... <hate that [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] crab></font><div></div>
ailees
10-05-2006, 07:44 PM
><font size="4">THE ONE TIME I wasn't there it dropped the meridian eye....<font size="2">That's just another proof of the bread and butter theorema.</font></font><div></div>
SacDaddy420
10-06-2006, 12:09 AM
That theory intrigues me aileesTell me more.......<div></div>
ailees
10-06-2006, 09:35 AM
It is not at all a theory, but a fact in real life that has been proven ; all who say it has not are just liers and will be damned for eternity.Other name : Murphy's law, or law of the maximum bugging.terms : anytime your slice of bread and butter falls on the ground, the buttered face will allways been the one that hit the ground.technical terms : all events that can fu.. up willOf course, if you are really a scientist, you know it is only the application of the 2d law of thermodynamics.<div></div>
SacDaddy420
10-06-2006, 12:08 PM
Ahh, Entropy. "in all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of it's initial state" D a m n you Clausius!<div></div>
le Rêveur
10-06-2006, 07:02 PM
<DIV>what about the only supremacy ring we got, went to ... a paladin... well least she average 850/1000 dps in usual raid setup.</DIV> <DIV>about crab, well we usually make a rather defensive set up with only 3 or 4 dps, then they can dps just as usual...</DIV><p>Message Edited by le Rêveur on <span class=date_text>10-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:05 AM</span>
IllusiveThoughts
10-06-2006, 08:23 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> le Rêveur wrote:<BR> <DIV>what about the only supremacy ring we got, went to ... a paladin... well least she average 850/1000 dps in usual raid setup.</DIV> <DIV>about crab, well we usually make a rather defensive set up with only 3 or 4 dps, then they can dps just as usual...</DIV> <P>Message Edited by le Rêveur on <SPAN class=date_text>10-06-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:05 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>rofl [Removed for Content]. ahhh man I about spit my water on my monitor.</P> <P>sorry had to just laugh at that one. that really sucks it didn't go to a caster.</P>
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