mages/wizards need a answer

[eversilence1]

<DIV>since this looks like the only place the devs are concentrating on plz fix the bloody wizards/mages issues ingame </DIV> <DIV>plz inform us what is going on this has taken to long and we havent heard jack all about it </DIV> <DIV>all we have atm is vague comment and rumor u lot are looking at it</DIV> <DIV>cant wait to see how many things are bugged with eof</DIV> <DIV>since they cant even be bothered to look at the bugs ingame now</DIV>

[Lucifrinia]

<P><FONT color=#ff0000>LOL!  What's the question that the Mages/Wizards have eversilence1?  ROFL.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Luci</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>70 SK, Permafrost</FONT></P>

[eversilence1]

<DIV>lol check the pvp forums</DIV> <DIV>wizards are bugged out totally</DIV> <DIV>roots are a joke</DIV> <DIV>resists</DIV> <DIV>inability to protect ourselves from melee</DIV> <DIV>our mitigation</DIV> <DIV>and some others</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and this issue has gone on for ages</DIV> <DIV>yet we are unable to get a response from a dev if they are even looking into the matter</DIV> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:45 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>cs tickets result in being told to feed back or bug it  and our only other option is to get come to the forums</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>by the looks of it ingame and out of game we will never be given a resonse  on the issue</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text> as a wizard in pvp  ur spells are resisyed 4 out of 5 times  its at its worst in t7 </SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>and when a spell lands its resisted for 80% on majority </SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>the wizards have been broken for way to long i am in t7 now and i have been complaining about the wizards since about lvl 30-40</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>thats about when the class starts to  useless</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:52 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN>  <P><SPAN class=time_text>my point to post here is to try get a devs response since majority  of devs are just posting here and actually not giving a dam about the issues that plague the game  atm</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>well seems that way when u complain for months on end and we get no reply or even a fix</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:55 AM</span>

[NoNameChosen]

<FONT color=#ffff00></FONT><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eversilence1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>lol check the pvp forums</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>This game was originally  made for PvE, so don't complain when PvP isn't `correct` according to you ...</FONT></DIV> <DIV>wizards are bugged out totally</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>EVERY class has bugs, so do wizards, nothing special</FONT></DIV> <DIV>roots are a joke<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>As in ... ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>resists<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Yes ... ?</FONT> </DIV> <DIV>inability to protect ourselves from melee<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>You aren't supposed to... Get a tank to be in the front, and you can nuke from backlines, as it's supposed to be in the original game</FONT></DIV> <DIV>our mitigation<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Cloth ... Mitigation, heh. Could've seen that coming before you made the character.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>and some others</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and this issue has gone on for ages</DIV> <DIV>yet we are unable to get a response from a dev if they are even looking into the matter<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>There is NO matter what-so-ever to look into. The entire balance between classes is gone, and has been since LU13. This will NEVER change because balancing out 24 classes is just not possible.</FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:45 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>cs tickets result in being told to feed back or bug it  and our only other option is to get come to the forums</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>by the looks of it ingame and out of game we will never be given a resonse  on the issue</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text> as a wizard in pvp  ur spells are resisyed 4 out of 5 times  its at its worst in t7 <BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Get adept3 / master spells. Get more INT, and get your casting abilities up, this will help.</FONT></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>and when a spell lands its resisted for 80% on majority </SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>the wizards have been broken for way to long i am in t7 now and i have been complaining about the wizards since about lvl 30-40</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>thats about when the class starts to  useless</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text><FONT color=#ffff00>For so long have you seen the problems, but you are too weak to just quit the toon and form one which is at your liking? If you don't like the class, DON'T PLAY IT!</FONT></SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:52 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>my point to post here is to try get a devs response since majority  of devs are just posting here and actually not giving a dam about the issues that plague the game  atm</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>well seems that way when u complain for months on end and we get no reply or even a fix</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:55 AM<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Devs hardly ever respond to topics where they beg for a response. So keep trying other posts in different forums (like you have been) maybe a dev will reply in 1 of them and locking them all at once <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[eversilence1]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> NoNameChosen wrote:<BR> <FONT color=#ffff00></FONT><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eversilence1 wrote:<BR> <DIV>lol check the pvp forums</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>This game was originally  made for PvE, so don't complain when PvP isn't `correct` according to you ...</FONT></DIV> <DIV>wizards are bugged out totally</DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>EVERY class has bugs, so do wizards, nothing special</FONT></DIV> <DIV>roots are a joke<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>As in ... ?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>resists<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Yes ... ?</FONT> </DIV> <DIV>inability to protect ourselves from melee<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>You aren't supposed to... Get a tank to be in the front, and you can nuke from backlines, as it's supposed to be in the original game</FONT></DIV> <DIV>our mitigation<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Cloth ... Mitigation, heh. Could've seen that coming before you made the character.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>and some others</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and this issue has gone on for ages</DIV> <DIV>yet we are unable to get a response from a dev if they are even looking into the matter<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>There is NO matter what-so-ever to look into. The entire balance between classes is gone, and has been since LU13. This will NEVER change because balancing out 24 classes is just not possible.</FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:45 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>cs tickets result in being told to feed back or bug it  and our only other option is to get come to the forums</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>by the looks of it ingame and out of game we will never be given a resonse  on the issue</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text> as a wizard in pvp  ur spells are resisyed 4 out of 5 times  its at its worst in t7 <BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Get adept3 / master spells. Get more INT, and get your casting abilities up, this will help.</FONT></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>and when a spell lands its resisted for 80% on majority </SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>the wizards have been broken for way to long i am in t7 now and i have been complaining about the wizards since about lvl 30-40</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>thats about when the class starts to  useless</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text><FONT color=#ffff00>For so long have you seen the problems, but you are too weak to just quit the toon and form one which is at your liking? If you don't like the class, DON'T PLAY IT!</FONT></SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:52 AM</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>my point to post here is to try get a devs response since majority  of devs are just posting here and actually not giving a dam about the issues that plague the game  atm</SPAN> <P><SPAN class=time_text>well seems that way when u complain for months on end and we get no reply or even a fix</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:55 AM<BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Devs hardly ever respond to topics where they beg for a response. So keep trying other posts in different forums (like you have been) maybe a dev will reply in 1 of them and locking them all at once <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>well by what u have said u dont know [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about the class</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>well in is at about 440  casting abilities as high as they can be  at my lvl </DIV> <DIV>problems started about lvl 30-40 yet would u just delete that time?</DIV> <DIV> or expect devs to actually work on fixing the issue</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV><p>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:17 AM</span>

[NoNameChosen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> eversilence1 wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>well by what u have said u dont know [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about the class</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>well in is at about 440  casting abilities as high as they can be  at my lvl </DIV> <DIV>problems started about lvl 30-40 yet would u just delete that time?</DIV> <DIV> or expect devs to actually work on fixing the issue</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV> <P>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <SPAN class=date_text>09-15-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:17 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I do know the problems and the class. I've played a wizard, didn't like it and removed it at lvl 28 or so, about to do thesame with my 32 warlock and my 23 conjuror. Casters (ANY!) have these problems , but just wizards. So I know what I'm talking about. The chance of a screenmob resisting something is nearly impossible because of game mechanics. The chance of someone resisting a nuke from a red-con mob/player (the one being 20levels higher) is like 0.001%. So you either just suck at playing a wizard, or you are just b*ll[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ting.

[Josgar]

<DIV>Everquest 2's team consists of teams specificly for certain things. Theres like 2 expansion teams and then a team for regular game updates... Them making an expansion has nothing to do with fixing classes.</DIV>

[Redra]

<div align="left">noname, its a pity, but you aren´t right because you are talking about pve probably and eversilence is talking about PVP.I also have a lvl70 on a PVE Server, yes and he´s fine.And a lot of people like to be a mage in fantasy RPG. So silence is right to complain about the joke wizards are in PVP. It´s not an option to reroll another class when a class you would like to play is completely useless. Not to mention the time you´ve invested in the toon.I often played in the Arena with friends - of all classes. And a lvl70 toon in PVP really resists nearly all spells OR if you hit you don´t hit with ice nova for >10k damage, but with 1-2k and that´s a shame. When a scout is bashing you, he does not much less damage than in PVE, but the Mage DOES.And THAT´s the problem.. </div><div></div>

[Soldross]

<div><blockquote><hr>eversilence1 wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <div>lol check the pvp forums</div> <div>wizards are bugged out totally</div> <div>roots are a joke</div> <div>resists</div> <div>inability to protect ourselves from melee</div> <div>our mitigation</div> <div>and some others</div> <div> </div> <div>and this issue has gone on for ages</div> <div>yet we are unable to get a response from a dev if they are even looking into the matter</div> <p>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <span class="date_text">09-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">01:45 AM</span> </p><p><span class="time_text">cs tickets result in being told to feed back or bug it  and our only other option is to get come to the forums</span> </p><p><span class="time_text">by the looks of it ingame and out of game we will never be given a resonse  on the issue</span> </p><p><span class="time_text"> as a wizard in pvp  ur spells are resisyed 4 out of 5 times  its at its worst in t7 </span> </p><p><span class="time_text">and when a spell lands its resisted for 80% on majority </span> </p><p><span class="time_text">the wizards have been broken for way to long i am in t7 now and i have been complaining about the wizards since about lvl 30-40</span> </p><p><span class="time_text">thats about when the class starts to  useless</span></p> <p>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <span class="date_text">09-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">01:52 AM</span> </p><p><span class="time_text"></span>  </p><p><span class="time_text">my point to post here is to try get a devs response since majority  of devs are just posting here and actually not giving a dam about the issues that plague the game  atm</span> </p><p><span class="time_text">well seems that way when u complain for months on end and we get no reply or even a fix</span></p><p>Message Edited by eversilence1 on <span class="date_text">09-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">01:55 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>So let's see. All this crap you're complaining about has already been addressed on other, actually appropriate forums but since it hasn't been resolved to your satisfaction you have decided to pollute a unrelated forum in the mistaken assumption that it will get addressed due to your cross-posting.Somebody kill this thread before I say something that will definately get it locked because I honestly don't give a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about your pvp issues.</div>

[NoNameChosen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Redrain wrote:<BR> <DIV align=left>noname, its a pity, but you aren´t right because you are talking about pve probably and eversilence is talking about PVP.</DIV> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Indeed I am, and the reason is:<BR><BR><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>Everquest 2 = PvE!</STRONG></FONT><BR><BR>Some people were whining about it becoming boring and asked for PvP, they got what they wanted, now they want Gamemechanics to be changed to PvP? F* that... If that happends, I'll be out of the game, EQ2 is and stays a PvE game, NO things in the game should be different in PvP because they got bored with the game before (PvP only items are acceptable).<BR><BR>If you want PvP, go play SWG or GW.</P>

[Tanit]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>NoNameChosen wrote:<p><font color="#ff0000" size="5"><strong></strong></font>Some people were whining about it becoming boring and asked for PvP, they got what they wanted, now they want Gamemechanics to be changed to PvP? F* that... If that happends, I'll be out of the game, EQ2 is and stays a PvE game, NO things in the game should be different in PvP because they got bored with the game before (PvP only items are acceptable).</p><hr></blockquote>Spells are already different on the pvp servers. There's no reason why those issues shouldn't be addressed, since many changes don't affect the pve servers. Just because you don't care about it doesn't mean it's not important for others.<div></div>

[valkyrja]

<div><blockquote><hr>eversilence1 wrote:<div>since this looks like the only place the devs are concentrating on plz fix the bloody wizards/mages issues ingame </div> <div>plz inform us what is going on this has taken to long and we havent heard jack all about it </div> <div>all we have atm is vague comment and rumor u lot are looking at it</div> <div>cant wait to see how many things are bugged with eof</div> <div>since they cant even be bothered to look at the bugs ingame now</div><hr></blockquote>Maybe the issue is that you can't seem to make a post which intelligently describes the issues you are having.  Not to mention you've cross-posted this undecipherable nonsense.</div>

[Ultimatum]

I never played a Wizard on a PvE server, but playing a 65 Wiz on PvP is insane...I'm still not experiencing the problems the OP is talking about...In solo fights, it CAN get a BIT frustrating, but if you know how to equip yourself for PvP (gear selection is far different than a PvE server...some procs absolutely suck for pve, but are invaluable in pvp...Fright anyone? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />) Resists > Stats...if you follow this rule of thumb you can make it just as frustrating for the other person as it is for you which basically levels the playing field again.  In Group PvP fights Wizards and Warlocks are king...numerous times I have hit a Fusion for 3500-5500 on 3 targets that have raid fabled gear, taking them down in a single swoop...It's all about having a coherent guild and pvp groups, debuffs are invaluable.  I'f you'd take as much time learning to play the class in PvP as you do [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ing about these "problems", maybe you can eliminate some of them yourself?  Just my 2cp<div></div>

[Sonic X]

<div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr>NoNameChosen wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Redrain wrote: <div align="left">noname, its a pity, but you aren´t right because you are talking about pve probably and eversilence is talking about PVP.</div> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Indeed I am, and the reason is:<font color="#ff0000" size="5"><strong>Everquest 2 = PvE!</strong></font>Some people were whining about it becoming boring and asked for PvP, they got what they wanted, now they want Gamemechanics to be changed to PvP? F* that... If that happends, I'll be out of the game, EQ2 is and stays a PvE game, NO things in the game should be different in PvP because they got bored with the game before (PvP only items are acceptable).If you want PvP, go play SWG or GW.</p><hr></blockquote>Your ignorant to the fact that all aspects of combat when fighting another player on a PVP server is different and WILL NOT effect PVE even PVE on a PVP server. If they increase the damage a spell does to another player it has no effect on what it does to a mob. I see countless anti-pvp posts when none of these changes will effect the way the PVE game works. If you knew anything about the game you would know on a PVP server there is a checkbox that shows what spells do to other players, they do the same thing to mobs/npcs as they do on a regular server. They did this for the sole purpose of not affecting both sides with changes. When you use a de-aggro ability on a mob it does the same thing it does on a PVE server, but when you use it on a PVP server ON ANOTHER PLAYER it forces them to lose their target and this is only when your fighting another player. I agree the original poster needs to slow down and write a half comprehensible post. Secondly proving more of your ignorance they DID change the game mechanics when fighting another PLAYER on a pvp server. It's nothing like using /duel on a PVE server. You can't just chain root a player and nuke them into oblivion, try reading this first:<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/news_ff.vm?FeatureName=pvp_combat" target=_blank>CLICK HERE</a> before you assume pvp complaints at all effect the game on the regular servers.The issue right now when fighting in PVP is that by T7 people's resist are so high that it's almost impossible to hit them with spells, and more so if you are a wizard because heat and cold resists are so easy to cap. Making it impossible for wizards to fight back in PVP and when a spell does land it does horrible damage. While classes like scouts can do far more dps, have chain armor, can track, use poisons etc.If they decrease the chance for a player to resist spells on a pvp server it does not change what it does to mob/npcs on a PVE or PVP server, besides you need to still kill mobs anyways.</div><p>Message Edited by Sonic X on <span class="date_text">09-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">06:20 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Sonic X on <span class=date_text>09-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:23 PM</span>