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-Immolatu
08-23-2006, 06:17 AM
Yea, yea.. I know the stats aren't the greatest and there's much better gear out there. But, woot! I look [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] good!<img src="http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b262/Mast3rofPupp3ts/EQ2_000134.jpg"><div></div>

IllusiveThoughts
08-23-2006, 08:08 AM
<P>congrats on the set man.  Hopefully this is one of those gear sets that when you're wearing the whole thing provides additional bonus's for EOF.  I plan on getting a full set of it just for that reason.</P> <P>and your sig is [Removed for Content] hilarious.  I like it.</P>

HomeChicken
08-23-2006, 08:23 AM
<DIV>yah i need to work on my set of relic, i got TERRIBLE luck when it comes to rolling for relic gear heh</DIV> <DIV>i got like 3 peices from all of our raiding <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />(</DIV>

adamflanagan
08-23-2006, 11:46 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote:<div></div> <p>congrats on the set man.  Hopefully this is one of those gear sets that when you're wearing the whole thing provides additional bonus's for EOF.  I plan on getting a full set of it just for that reason.</p> <p>and your sig is [Removed for Content] hilarious.  I like it.</p><hr></blockquote>this wont be happening. a dev said set bonuses are exclusively for eof items <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />hopefully they will change their mind though as relic is the one of the only "sets" we can get apart from dracomancer, nemisis, animist etc...</div>

Wilko1981
08-23-2006, 11:57 AM
Congrats on the whole set, and yes as Illu said very very amusing siggy <span>:smileytongue:</span><div></div>

drajev
08-23-2006, 01:14 PM
<P>Grats on the full relic<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>It's well-known it's not the best raid gear so here are my choices:</P> <P>- hat - Grand Dracomancer Hat is good and fairly easy to come by - Lab, best would be Breath of the Destroyer - Tarinax</P> <P>- Robe - the relic is not bad in terms of stat but focus is pretty lame, i'd say Veined Membranous Drape from Amorhphous Drake - DT - or even Robe of Red Scales from Talendor are better choices, Draco Vest is good too, shame no proc. If your guild is good enough - Robe of Mystical Silk from the contested Mutagenic outcast.</P> <P>- Shoulders - the quested Dragonscale Mantle is already much better than relic and for less repair cost, otherwise Cowl of Suffering from the same named in HoS, Replendant Scapular Mantle from Yitzik in DT or Mantle of the Clairvoyant from DT would be the best choices.</P> <P>- Cuffs - Draco cuffs are real good for legendary, and very common drop in Lab, relic ones just suck, otherwise the feather-looking cuffs from Fitzpitzle in DT would be among the better ones, FT8 on them and uber stats, shame they're rare.</P> <P>- Gloves - Bloodsoaked mitts from Bloodbeast in HoS or even Stonestiched gloves from charged presence in HoS again, last choice for Draco Gloves for the proc when you get oom.</P> <P>- Pants - best pants in game drop from Mutagenic outcast but again very hard to come by, otherwise Draco pants or Mystical Down pants from Roost.</P> <P>- Boots - first choice for Boots of Terror from last mob in Lyceum, quite common and easy to get, second would be Shadow slippers from shadowy presence in HoS. </P> <P>Nice signature with risk of repeating<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

HomeChicken
08-23-2006, 02:23 PM
<DIV>drajev, id have to disagree with a few peices ya listed, i would say (at least in reguards to what is best)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hat, same, breath of the destroyer rocks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>robe, every robe except the one from the roost sucks, power proc + ward >>>> any amount of FT out there, its sad but its true</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>shoulders, yah id agree, the ones rom yitzik and tarinax are both awesome, FT + deagro on one, nice power proc on the other, i use the detaunt / FT ones just becuase we havent seen enough of the others to drop</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>cuffs, the feather ones are nice, but chel'drak drops some that are a lot like that, only a little better in basicly every reguard (more power / resists, im pretty sure more FT, same basic cuffs, just a little higher values on them)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>gloves, i havnet had the chance to try them out, but the gloves with the offensive spell proc seem like they would be pretty nice, beyond that, the ones you listed work</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>boots, while the boots of terror are nice, the proc on them is just about worthless (i NEVER use it) so im just goin by pure stats alone, and the boots from the roost are a bit better (mystical down slippers maybe? cant remember the name) but they got really nice stats / resists + 145 raw power </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>pants, yah MO pants > all other pants, cruor alluvium drops some pants that have the same proc as the mantle of the clairvoyant, chance to proc 99 power, so those are a close second, i would say the pants from the roost would be a decent 3rd if ya cant get the other two</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just my 2c</DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV>

drajev
08-23-2006, 03:59 PM
Agree on pretty much all but the robe question. Whats the proc on xhaviz robe? Some 140 when you get lucky every 2.30 mins... Say u got The drake robe or MO robe, that makes FT 8. Meaning 150 secs/6 s each tick = 25 ticks of FT 8. 8*25 = 200 power regened by the FT8 on robe only. Adding to that the superior raw mana on both robe this make it far far better on the mana regen side for both robes. Its a matter of maths.Since we started involving Cheldrak on the gear - The robe of Ancient Codex that he drops is the most uber robe in game. How many guilds have beaten him so far? Not too many. <div></div>

zixtent
08-23-2006, 06:06 PM
<DIV>Congrats on getting it all. I only have my shoulders right now.</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts
08-23-2006, 06:33 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> drajev wrote:<BR>Agree on pretty much all but the robe question. Whats the proc on xhaviz robe? Some 140 when you get lucky every 2.30 mins... Say u got The drake robe or MO robe, that makes FT 8. Meaning 150 secs/6 s each tick = 25 ticks of FT 8. 8*25 = 200 power regened by the FT8 on robe only. Adding to that the superior raw mana on both robe this make it far far better on the mana regen side for both robes. Its a matter of maths.<BR><BR>Since we started involving Cheldrak on the gear - The robe of Ancient Codex that he drops is the most uber robe in game. How many guilds have beaten him so far? Not too many. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>for the most part xhaviz's works out to 25-30 flowing thought depending on procs per minute.</P> <P>It has the highest %chance to proc + power than any other item in game (15%) and pre-nerf it was about 35-40 flowing thought equivilant.</P>

HomeChicken
08-23-2006, 08:39 PM
<DIV>yah the robe from the roost, as long as you are CASTING SPELLS, will proc more power than any FT they have in the game</DIV> <DIV>since the range of power is  95 - 143, flowing thought 8 would take  47.5 - 71.5 seconds to regen that amount of power</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>its a 15% chance to proc, and lets just say for the sake of argument every spell you cast is 3s casting time (its not i know, but im lazy) in that 47.5 - 71.5 seconds it would take to get your FT 8 to regen you 95-143 power, thats 15 - 24 spells cast if your chain casting (which you prolly should be)  since its ROUGHLY 1/7 spells you cast offensivly will proc this thing, </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>your looking at 2-3 procs of this robe in the time it (2 procs = 190 -286 power,  3 procs = 285 - 429 power)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>if you actually EVER cast offensive spells (damage spells? debuffs? something? anything?) this robe will proc more power than any FT</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>going off the 3s casting time average, saying it procs as often as it claims it does (which it does, trust me) its flowing thought 19 - 28.6</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>maybe i slept through math class, but as far as i can remember 19-28.6 > 8</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and in reguards to how many guilds have killed chel'drak, there is actaully at least prolly 15+ now, more happening every day</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

IllusiveThoughts
08-23-2006, 10:31 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HomeChicken wrote:<BR> <DIV>yah the robe from the roost, as long as you are CASTING SPELLS, will proc more power than any FT they have in the game</DIV> <DIV>since the range of power is  95 - 143, flowing thought 8 would take  47.5 - 71.5 seconds to regen that amount of power</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>unless im wrong 1 tick = 6 seconds.</P> <P>flowing thought 8 after 60 seconds is only 80 power.</P>

HomeChicken
08-24-2006, 02:02 AM
<DIV>i was always under the impression a tick was 4 seconds...</DIV> <DIV>could be wrong, if thats the case then FT sucks even more [Removed for Content] compared to power pumping procs heh</DIV>

IllusiveThoughts
08-24-2006, 02:13 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> HomeChicken wrote:<BR> <DIV>i was always under the impression a tick was 4 seconds...</DIV> <DIV>could be wrong, if thats the case then FT sucks even more [Removed for Content] compared to power pumping procs heh</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>its possible, looks like i'm going to have to confirm this when I get home and time it in-and out of combat.</P> <P>I'm pretty sure its been 6 seconds / tick though.  its been so long since i did any power regen testing i dont remember.</P>

Nightwo|f
08-24-2006, 02:39 AM
a 'tick' is 6 seconds afaik. I was bored at work yesterday with my laptop so I figured that I would calculate what the robe came out to (kinda coincidental with this post). Through an entire HoS raid, the robe procced 138 times for me, which equates to roughly 16422 power over the span of 92 minutes in combat (according to ACT). That works out to be FT18 or there abouts.

electricninjasex
08-24-2006, 02:57 AM
Sig is hilarious, didn't notice everyone else saw it too. <div></div>

kingdeke
08-25-2006, 04:20 AM
Is anyone else disapointed that our chest piece is a vest instead of a robe? I have it but refuse to wear it on that principle alone.

Koehianna
08-25-2006, 09:22 AM
The vest is unique, 99.99% of all mages already wear a robe, it's cool to have something else.I just don't like the color scheme of it.  <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

MeridianR
08-25-2006, 06:16 PM
...don't forget the robe from Djinn Master either <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

treasterbr
08-26-2006, 07:50 AM
<DIV>Nice list of gear there. Shame their isnt a list that a person can get with out being in a raiding guild that are still decent. I am level 70 and best things I have on mine are T7 crafted  pants and they arent even the rare or imbued. only caus eharvesting sucks of late. So grats to those taht have and Good luck on those taht ahve teh resources to get.</DIV>

Kelkirra
08-27-2006, 10:20 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> treasterbr wrote:<BR> <DIV>Nice list of gear there. Shame their isnt a list that a person can get with out being in a raiding guild that are still decent. I am level 70 and best things I have on mine are T7 crafted  pants and they arent even the rare or imbued. only caus eharvesting sucks of late. So grats to those taht have and Good luck on those taht ahve teh resources to get.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Truth being bud is that there is actually a lot of legendary gear out there for everyone if you're  willing to spend the time in groups grinding out instance zones. Even the relic gear that they're talking about isn't really that hard to obtain to be quite honest. You can farm the trash in labs with a decently geared 2 or 3 group raid and have a good chance at walking out with a few pieces of relic gear a night. But you have to be willing to spend the time doing this. I know many guilds that are not raiding guilds per-say and they can still outfit some of their members in relic from just farming labs or running along with other guilds that do raid. =D