Hex Doll Question

[Griffinhart]

<DIV>Ok, I've been slacking.  I've had a t7 hex doll for months, but have never used it consistantly.  Does anyone have any numbers on how much it improves our damage?  Mostly I'm curious about adept3 fusion and how much if any the potential damage can be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Griffinhart wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ok, I've been slacking.  I've had a t7 hex doll for months, but have never used it consistantly.  Does anyone have any numbers on how much it improves our damage?  Mostly I'm curious about adept3 fusion and how much if any the potential damage can be.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>the debuff has a range, so the bonus from the debuff would vary.</P> <P>also the increases in damage start to increase dramatically the higher you go</P> <P>thus, if you use a hex doll and m1 rending icicles you could in theory debuff said mob for 2k to heat/cold.</P> <P>toss in a FOR and its 2k cold 3k heat.</P> <P>bone clasped girdle proc and its 2.5k cold 3.5k heat.</P> <P> </P> <P>you can test this yourself by going out and rooting a mob and using the hex doll, then casting ice flame (since there is no dmg range on it) then record the *bonus* dmg you got from debuffing</P> <P>then cast rending icicles and the hex doll and then you'd see how much a boost having both up would be.</P>

[Mareth]

I asked about Forge of Ro in one of the larger channels on Splitpaw, and everyone said it only did damage. Illu usually has more of a clue about wizzies than 99% of the rest of us though, so I'll believe him <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Anyway, I use my hex doll if I'm really low level on a pick-up raid, and can't hit [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]e, or if I'm bored and soloing heroics 9 levels above (my single-target root can't handle more than level 67 mobs), though the repair bills for that are getting a bit huge.Shame the casting time is so long, if it was 4 seconds, I'd use it way more.<div></div>

[claimabstra]

<DIV>I am curious about the Forge of Ro debuff.  I have had a dueling partner stand in the middle of the FoR for a number of duels and neither he nor I noticed a change in his resists to heat/cold.  Did I get unlucky or does this debuff not work on other player characters?  My FoR is M1.  I look forward to using Ice Flame to test the FoR debuff on mobs.</DIV>

[Nightwo|f]

if you mouse-over the debuff on a mob from FoR, the description states it lowers heat resist like Illusive states (but I haven't tested it in a duel myself). I use FoR on single target raid mobs for just that purpose in addition to the damage it provides.<p>Message Edited by Nightwo|f on <span class=date_text>08-04-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:41 PM</span>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> claimabstract wrote:<BR> <DIV>I am curious about the Forge of Ro debuff.  I have had a dueling partner stand in the middle of the FoR for a number of duels and neither he nor I noticed a change in his resists to heat/cold.  Did I get unlucky or does this debuff not work on other player characters?  My FoR is M1.  I look forward to using Ice Flame to test the FoR debuff on mobs.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>for is a heat based spell, so if your dueling someone with max heat resists (80%) then forge of ro will probably not even hit them, and if it does, the debuff is a secondary effect (its the lower dmg dot of the 2) so it would have to land also (thats 2 things that could hit a player in a duel, the straight up dmg part thats usually 200-300, and the dot/debuff that is 50-100)</P> <P>and as stated once you put down forge of ro and examine the icon on a mob the debuff lies there.</P> <P>at adept 3 it was 966 to heat last i checked.</P>

[TheBu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>as stated once you put down forge of ro and examine the icon on a mob the debuff lies there.</BLOCKQUOTE> <P>at adept 3 it was 966 to heat last i checked.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>and </P> <P>"then casting ice flame (since there is no dmg range on it) then record the *bonus* dmg you got from debuffing<BR>u the man..."</P> <P>You are the man!</P> <P>wow... nice info.  </P> <P>so then the question is does wardens heat defuff stack with our and the rouges..   is ther a max debuff?  wow wer talking about some intresting info..</P><p>Message Edited by TheBuzZ on <span class=date_text>08-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:15 PM</span>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheBuzZ wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>as stated once you put down forge of ro and examine the icon on a mob the debuff lies there.</BLOCKQUOTE> <P>at adept 3 it was 966 to heat last i checked.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>and </P> <P>"then casting ice flame (since there is no dmg range on it) then record the *bonus* dmg you got from debuffing<BR>u the man..."</P> <P>You are the man!</P> <P>wow... nice info.  </P> <P>so then the question is does wardens heat defuff stack with our and the rouges..   is ther a max debuff?  wow wer talking about some intresting info..</P> <P>Message Edited by TheBuzZ on <SPAN class=date_text>08-05-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:15 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>wardens have a heat and cold debuff, its much like ours, only does more damage and has a longer recast, it will also debuff for the same amount and yes it does stack.</P> <P>2 wizards using rending icicles stacks too.  rangers snare/heat debuff stacks with ours, brigands debuff's all stack with ours.</P> <P>there is a cap however to the amount you can debuff a mob.  someone posted it on these forums once before but I dont remember if it was capped at 50% bonus dmg or capped at a certain debuff value.(like some arbitray number say 6k)</P>