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ailees
07-17-2006, 02:10 PM
<div></div><div></div>I don't understand what's not working :My two macro thaét work :/toggleautoattack/useability catalyst:;useability fusion ; toggleautoattackother one is :/useability freehand/useability catalyst/useabilitty fusionif I try to merge both ::; toggleautoattack ; useability freehand/useability catalyst/useability fusionI start fight, cast first 2 spells, but not the 3d one ! as freehand takes no time, I don't understand why this macro does not work (knowing that if I don't attack, the chaining of the 3 spells works)it is not a queue problem, as catalyst is cast and not fusion !<p>Message Edited by ailees on <span class=date_text>07-17-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:14 AM</span>

IllusiveThoughts
07-17-2006, 06:06 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote:<BR> I don't understand what's not working :<BR>My two macro thaét work :<BR><BR>/toggleautoattack<BR>/useability catalyst<BR>:;useability fusion ; toggleautoattack<BR><BR><BR>other one is :<BR>/useability freehand<BR>/useability catalyst<BR>/useabilitty fusion<BR><BR>if I try to merge both :<BR><BR>:; toggleautoattack ; useability freehand<BR>/useability catalyst<BR>/useability fusion<BR><BR>I start fight, cast first 2 spells, but not the 3d one ! as freehand takes no time, I don't understand why this macro does not work (knowing that if I don't attack, the chaining of the 3 spells works)<BR><BR>it is not a queue problem, as catalyst is cast and not fusion !<BR> <P>Message Edited by ailees on <SPAN class=date_text>07-17-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:14 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>for some reason when I tried to que /gsay then freehand and then fusion, it wont cast fusion with the macro.  dunno why.

ailees
07-17-2006, 10:06 PM
we are 2 then, and mebbe much more, seems odd, because I don't see any reason why it should not work.<div></div>

Radigazt
07-18-2006, 06:10 AM
I may be wrong, but I thought that despite having 3 lines in the macro, only 2 lines are actually executed ... dunno why that is.  I was told and my experience was that if I ever tried to put a 3rd command in the macro that it would only execute 2 of the 3 commands.  Try breaking the macro up into 2 macros and see if it works that way.  If it's still broken, dunno what to tell ya.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ailees
07-18-2006, 12:33 PM
look at the 2 macros that I give, they work and both have 3 lines<div></div>

SalBlu
07-19-2006, 12:57 AM
<DIV>Word of advice because I ran into this.  Just take out the toggleautoattack line.  Keep your fingers on the keyboard and whack the tilde (~) key.  It initiates autoattack.  Then just nail your macro key.  There's really no need to keep that line in the macro key.  The only thing that matters is keeping the Catalyst, Freehand, and (Spellname) together.</DIV>

ailees
07-19-2006, 11:23 AM
I understand, and it is a good idea.But, if possible, I prefer having ONE keystroke and not 2. I'm a slacker, I love pressing the "1" key, and look at boommmbbadabooom incoming without me doing anything but looking at poor group who's gonna be hit and die. Just like a cat looking at a mouse, you know ?on the other hand, I'm working in IT and i hate when I don't understand why a macro (or a programm) that is correctly writen does not work the way it should.Of course I never worked for Microsoft <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

Bong_water
07-19-2006, 11:00 PM
2 keystrokes!!! thats absolutely outrageous! how dare you actuly have to press buttons to play i'm gonna /pettition that right now <div></div>

ailees
07-20-2006, 10:32 AM
<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />2 keystrokes instead of one is much less efficient, it is not a big problem ? nobut you can also not use macros at all. It is only 4 keystrokes to be honest. right ?as macro theorically allows me to chain the casting just as I try to, I'd like to understand why it does not work. Of course it is easier to joke than to answer a technical question... <div></div>

Bong_water
07-20-2006, 06:42 PM
<blockquote><hr>ailees wrote:Of course it is easier to joke than to answer a technical question... <div></div><hr></blockquote>if thats not the truth i dont know what is<div></div>

usmchawaii98
07-22-2006, 09:26 AM
<P>This might work, I recall that when "gsay" is at the start of a single macro line, the gsay sends the following commands to group chat, rather than executing them.  I also remember that an instant such as Arcane Augur is considered as one of the two executable commands in a macro.  Then again I may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, lol.</P> <P> </P> <P>Macro 1</P> <P>/: ; toggleautoattack ; usea freehand ; usea catalyst</P> <P> </P> <P>Macro 2</P> <P>/: ; toggleautoattack ; usea fusion ; gsay casting fusion now</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Message Edited by usmchawaii98 on <SPAN class=date_text>07-22-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:35 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by usmchawaii98 on <span class=date_text>07-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:37 AM</span>

IllusiveThoughts
07-24-2006, 10:16 PM
<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> usmchawaii98 wrote:<BR> <P>This might work, I recall that when "gsay" is at the start of a single macro line, the gsay sends the following commands to group chat, rather than executing them.  I also remember that an instant such as Arcane Augur is considered as one of the two executable commands in a macro.  Then again I may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time, lol.</P> <P> </P> <P>Macro 1</P> <P>/: ; toggleautoattack ; usea freehand ; usea catalyst</P> <P> </P> <P>Macro 2</P> <P>/: ; toggleautoattack ; usea fusion ; gsay casting fusion now</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Message Edited by usmchawaii98 on <SPAN class=date_text>07-22-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:35 AM</SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by usmchawaii98 on <SPAN class=date_text>07-22-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:37 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>going to reverse the order and put /gsay 2nd and see what happens, thanks for the tip.</DIV>

Allowin
07-25-2006, 12:22 AM
you can use all 3 lines of a macro and it will work, you just cant use 3 spells on 1 macro. and heres why.when you press a macro thats setup to cast 3 spells, the first spell triggers and you start casting. while your casting, the macro ques the 2nd spell, and since your casting the first one, it will not cast the second. now heres where you get messed up. as your casting the first spell, the macro ques the 2nd, and then cues the 3rd almost instantly. so when it cues the 3rd one, the 2nd one cancels.you can only cast 2 spells with a macro. the macro will read and execute the lines faster than your spells will cast. the only way to get around this is if you have a spell with 0 casting time (a instant casting time) and set it to cast first. that way when you trigger the macro, the first spell will be instant and the 2nd spell will start casting instantly and the 3rd spell will cue and cast as soon as the 2nd one finished.keep in mind any ability cancels out a CA thats in cue. you can talk in /gsay, /rsay or any chat channels and it want cancel. ill have to test and see if a spell cancels cue when you toggle auto attack or not. thats something ive never thought about. so adding any amount of /gsay or /rsays should not interfere with any of your spell casting macros.this will either help you understand or get you 10X more lost than you were.<div></div>

ailees
07-25-2006, 06:10 PM
>ALLOWIN : you can only cast 2 spells with a macro... the only way to get around this is if you have a spell with 0 casting time (a instant casting time)for example :FREEHAND, CATALYST and FUSION works, because as freehand is 0 time, catalyst starts and then fusion is queued.AUTOATTACK, CATALYST and FUSION also works, because of same reason (toggle is 0 delay)then why does AUTOATTACK, FREEHAND, CATALYST and FUSION do not ? I already explained that <u>the spell that does not start is the last one</u> ! <b>not a problem of queue</b> then. If it were, catalyst would be the spell that does not start because erased from queue by fusion.<div></div>

SalBlu
07-25-2006, 10:14 PM
Why do you need the "autoattack" nomenclature in there?  You dont have to set autoattack to point yourself at the mob.   Just use your mousing hand that that you're already using to turn your body.<p>Message Edited by SalBluee on <span class=date_text>07-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:15 PM</span>

duuf
07-25-2006, 11:57 PM
<div></div>SalBluee wrote: Why do you need the "autoattack" nomenclature in there?  You dont have to set autoattack to point yourself at the mob.   Just use your mousing hand that that you're already using to turn your body. __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______________ Using autoatatck reduces "no target in range messages".    Once you engage it you only have to make sure you are the right distance and for the most part the 60 degree cone is taken care of by the autoattack.  If the mob moves your wiz will automatically track  and your fusion has a far better chance of hitting.  Especially important in raid settings when many times the mob is obscured from view and moving around. Duufuss lvl 70 pally Duffus lvl70 wiz Everfrost <div></div><p>Message Edited by rtwitty on <span class=date_text>07-25-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:00 PM</span>

SalBlu
07-26-2006, 12:31 AM
<DIV>I know why people want to use it, but i've never needed to.  That's why I said to remove the autoattack.  I've done quite a bit of testing with my Fusion to judge its range and cone so I know what it is going to hit.</DIV>

goboy
07-26-2006, 01:36 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ailees wrote:<BR>>ALLOWIN : you can only cast 2 spells with a macro... the only way to get around this is if you have a spell with 0 casting time (a instant casting time)<BR><BR>for example :<BR>FREEHAND, CATALYST and FUSION works, because as freehand is 0 time, catalyst starts and then fusion is queued.<BR><BR>AUTOATTACK, CATALYST and FUSION also works, because of same reason (toggle is 0 delay)<BR><BR>then why does AUTOATTACK, FREEHAND, CATALYST and FUSION do not ? I already explained that <U>the spell that does not start is the last one</U> ! <B>not a problem of queue</B> then. If it were, catalyst would be the spell that does not start because erased from queue by fusion.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Since I do not have catalyst yet, I cannot test yours completely.  For a test I used Freehand Socrcery, Fusion, and Ice Comet. </P> <P> </P> <P>/: ; toggleautoattack ; useability freehand sorcery ; useability fusion</P> <P>: ; useability ice comet ; toggleautoattack</P> <P>This does work.  If have fusion or ice comet before freehand sorcery, it does not work.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

duuf
07-26-2006, 06:21 AM
<div></div>Deleted, sarcasm removed my apologies Duufuss lvl70 pallyDuffus lvl70 wizEverfrost<div></div><p>Message Edited by rtwitty on <span class=date_text>07-26-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:38 PM</span>

duuf
07-26-2006, 06:58 AM
Try this, all of the commands execute for me / : ; usea freehand sorcery ; toggleautoattack ; usea catalyst ; usea fusionDuufuss lvl70 pallyDuffus lvl 70 wiz Everfrost<div></div>

ailees
07-26-2006, 02:29 PM
Nice, thanks a lot.Using freehand then autoattack, then catalyst, fusion, autoattackit WORKSgreat, now in raid I can go to mob (more or less, so many meleers, and I am very <strike>tall</strike> concentrated), target MA and cast macro.<div></div>