Whatever Blackguard.....

[THuNDeRHe]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div></div>Ah [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] it. All I have to say is four things: Enfeeblement Ring of Cold Paralyze Summon Shadows. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Jaale Frostfire, 51 Wizard Hands of Time, Oggok <div></div><p>Message Edited by THuNDeRHeaD on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:47 AM</span>

[Zcenicx]

<DIV>Summon Shadows has a movement reduction, but at least scales and remains at the same level as Altered Visions had. Check the fury boards for some crying about invis tho.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Tounge Twist line (last incarnation is Enfeeblement) works fine. Duration is decreased only because the casting time is instant. This is a good change for wizard pvp, since we can stifle most other players before they can stifle us. In pve, stifles dont matter much anyways. If you think it does, use heat convulsion. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>RoC is on a 20 sec recast, but wait 10-15 secs before casting spells then, or have Truss up and you're fine. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Paralyze rocks. 1k+ damage and enough stun to pull off Ice Comet or Truss? What are you smoking? :smileywink:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Zcenicx on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:56 PM</span>

[goboy]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> THuNDeRHeaD wrote:<BR> Ah [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] it.<BR><BR>All I have to say is four things:<BR><BR>Enfeeblement<BR>Ring of Cold<BR>Paralyze<BR>Summon Shadows.<BR><BR><img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>Jaale Frostfire,<BR>51 Wizard<BR>Hands of Time, Oggok<BR> <P>Message Edited by THuNDeRHeaD on <SPAN class=date_text>09-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>11:47 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Guess I missed something.  </P> <P>I understand some people liking the old ROC incarnation (no matter how overpowered), but why is paralyze on the list?  I use the [Removed for Content] out of it and love it.  </P> <P>Besides, Truss should make up for all of your ROC woes.  I rarely ROC single target mobs - even heroics. </P> <P>Summon Shadows has a problem?</P> <P> </P> <p>Message Edited by goboy on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:58 PM</span>

[Daga]

<DIV>What is this in response to?</DIV>

[THuNDeRHe]

<div></div>With the exception of Summon Shadows, casting or recast timers are what I have a problem with.  Enfeeblement:  Pre revamp it was 7 seconds recast, now it's something like 20 seconds Ring of Cold: September 13 it was 6 seconds recast, now it's 20 seconds Paralyze: September 13 it was 1 or 2 seconds, now it's 3.5 seconds. (could be wrong about this one) I do like the 1k DD with this for sure..... Basically, I have a problem with not being able to keep a mob immobilized.  I was able to do this with ease on September 13th, but not anymore.  Summon Shadows, whether it scales or not, blows goats because it does not stack with my horse, or a SoW totem.  In fact, it seems faster to walk while invis now, the horse and SoW totem only slow me down.  So now if I have to make a run to Lord Nagafen (Thankfully I did my prismatic months ago), it would take me something more like an hour to get there.  What is the point of this? Jaale Frostfire 51 Wizard Hands of Time, Oggok <div></div><p>Message Edited by THuNDeRHeaD on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:18 PM</span>

[Zcenicx]

<DIV>If you have patience, keeping a mob immobilized isnt a problem. You have two stuns (Comet and Paralyze) and two roots (RoC and Truss).</DIV> <DIV>Just wait for one to recycle before risking a break.</DIV>

[brow27]

You've got your numbers a little mixed up.  If you are gonna post about numbers being lousy, at least have them correct. Paralyze:  This has not changed since Sept 13th.  Still 2s cast, 30s recast, 3.5s duration Enfeeblement: Yea this one got knocked.  Was instant cast, 9sec duration, now .5 sec cast, 4.5 duration, same recast since 13th Ring of Cold: It was NEVER 6 second recast, it was 10, and now it's 20, which is not all that bad <div></div>