Wizard adept 3 spell or spells. which one?

[tass]

<div></div>what spell, or spells are worth getting upgraded to adept 3? I know for a conjurer it would be his pet, but what spell or spells would a wizard use continuously? <div></div>

[Tar~Palantir]

<P>Ball of Fire(if you have money to blow at 23), Ball of FLames at 37, I suppose flame strike, and our Coup D'Grace Ice Comet, also Immolation.</P>

[didi316]

<div></div>t4: - Ice Flame - Ball of Flames - Immolation t5: cannot say as i'm just 44, but: - Piercing Icicles and maybe - Vital Flow i'm quite sure that there are more from the 45+ spells like ice comet, icy wind,.... i'm not quite sure if it's worth to upgrade any t3 spells, but if you want to i think icy coil and ball of fire are good choices BUT BE AWARE OF THE COMBAT CHANGES - THEY MAY CHANGE THINGS!!! <b></b><div></div><p>Message Edited by Anyelino on <span class=date_text>07-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:11 PM</span>

[tass]

actually ive checked into that ball of flames adept3, it only does about 45 more dammage then ball of fire app4, but i think the other spells r good to upgrade. thx. Sigh i wish a wizard could regain its former glory, wizards r supposed to be the best of all nukers, warlocks r supposed to be the best in damage over time. but now it seems there both, stupid soe <div></div>

[Tar~Palantir]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> holystones wrote:<BR>actually ive checked into that ball of flames adept3, it only does about 45 more dammage then ball of fire app4, but i think the other spells r good to upgrade. thx. <BR>Sigh i wish a wizard could regain its former glory, wizards r supposed to be the best of all nukers, warlocks r supposed to be the best in damage over time. but now it seems there both, stupid soe<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Holystones has see to light! Preach to us!</P> <P>5 stars from me to you.(considering my avg star rating given is a two, consider yourself blessed).</P>

[tass]

o.......k sure. just making a statement that not all adept 3's r all there cracked up to be. an app4 usually is close to its equal only a little lesser. in most cases but not all. Though i do have a question, when r the wizards going to go back to the way they were? I mean they r supposed to be the greatest nukers, while the warlocks r supposed to have there expertise in damage over time. if id known this id have chosen a warlock <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Splatterpunk28]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> holystones wrote:<BR>o.......k sure. just making a statement that not all adept 3's r all there cracked up to be. an app4 usually is close to its equal only a little lesser. in most cases but not all. <BR>Though i do have a question, when r the wizards going to go back to the way they were? I mean they r supposed to be the greatest nukers, while the warlocks r supposed to have there expertise in damage over time. if id known this id have chosen a warlock <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Most dmg spells are a 10% increase from App4 to Adept1, then 10% more to Adept3, 20% to Master1.  I can't verify that person's statement about Ball of Fire (maybe it was that low at 23 or maybe that's 20%, lol)</P> <P>And no where was it stated ever that wizards are to be the greatest nukers and warlocks the greatest in damage over time.  Things will most likely swing back and forth with wizard vs warlock in terms of overall dps, I wouldn't call it quits just yet.</P>

[tass]

well it would still be good enough if soe could at least fix us. i mean, right now a fighter class can usually put me to shame, thats very bad. I dont care which is greater, the wizard or the warlock, we're both the same in the end. I just want it to be equally fair in the damage that is delt, not have everything trying to resist high powered spells that should hit up to lv 50 lol. <div></div>

[brow27]

<DIV>Ball of Flames Adept III only does 45 more damage than Ball of Fire Apprentice IV?  <FONT size=5>BWAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=5></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=5></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Dude, put down the crack pipe, or at least pass it over here.  An Adept III Ball of Flames will do SO much more damage than Ball of Fire App IV.  Not to mention it has a shorter cast time, and a MUCH shorter recast time.  Then you go [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot]ing at Sony!  They're not the ones with the problem, it's you.  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>Something else you should realize is that you have Ball of Fire maxed out.  You JUST got ball of flames, its orange to you.  You will never do more damage with BoF than you do now, but your damage with BoFL will only increase more and more.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3>You may have meant BoFl app IV to Ad III, I don't know.  Whatever though, gave me a good laugh!</FONT></DIV>

[Stavenh]

One thing you might want to consider is your AE spells. I just got Freezing wind Master 1. Over all, it does more damage then Icy wind adept 1, though a tad less mitigation debuff. I read that AE spells will be made more useful, so it might be a good idea to get those to adept 3.

[BenjaminCla]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> holystones wrote:<BR>well it would still be good enough if soe could at least fix us. i mean, right now a fighter class can usually put me to shame, thats very bad. I dont care which is greater, the wizard or the warlock, we're both the same in the end. I just want it to be equally fair in the damage that is delt, not have everything trying to resist high powered spells that should hit up to lv 50 lol. <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Dude, no offense, but if you are being out-damaged by a fighter you are playing the wrong class.  There should be a CHASM of difference between you and tanks damage output.  There is simply no comparison, against non-epic mobs, between the two classes damage.  Perhaps you'd be better healing people <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ksux]

I'm a lvl47 wizzie, and have adept1 everything, as well as adept3 immolation and adept3 ball of flames (both of which were well worth the coin).  But I completely agree that you need to compare your current spells with what you're gonna upgrade to, because you may not actually gain anything by upgrading to adept3 or master1.  For example...why is there a master1 depart???  How is it better than app1 depart???  According to the spell descriptions, it doesn't cast faster, it doesn't have any better range, the reuse timer is the same....why would anyone spend coin on it, why would SOE even put it in the game???  Anyway, perhaps there is some difference, I don't know, I'm not willing to waste a couple plat to find out...does anyone here know? <div></div>

[Misseh]

<P>If you are a solo'er, you might consider upgrading your root and stun spells as well. </P> <P>I wouldn't worry too much about getting awesome adepts till around level 40, because at that time, you sort of stop getting <EM>new</EM> spells and start getting better versions of old ones. Just my opinion.</P> <P>If you group a lot, it might be worth it to you to have at least one of your feeds upgraded. Just in case.</P>