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Trinity214
06-24-2005, 03:07 AM
<DIV> <DIV>To start this post I'll lay down little disclaimer to everyone just to ensure that nobody gets heated in this post.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc size=2><STRONG>Disclaimer: The views expressed in this post are based of first hand experiance and are not necessarly the views of everyone. I speak on behalf of my self and I am only stateing facts as I see them for myself. It is not my intention to make anyone mad.</STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#cccccc size=2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffffff>This post is a brief review of my experiances as a wizzy from the release date up to now. If a DEV chooses to review this post and speak on behalf of SOE, feel more than free state your side!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM>The patch-</EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>After comming home from business travel yesterday I logged on and decided do a M&M run. I got wasted a number times before I finally gave up. This issue had been stated in a another post but I would like the developers to understand how much a small change can effect someone such as myself. I have spent the last 3 months developing tactics, farming plat for all Adept III spells, gaining access to instance zones, and creating new tactics for raiding epic zones. With the recent patch in effect, I have come to realize that I have just waisted 100's of hours developing tactics based on an effect that I can no longer use as an advantage in battle. I can't speak the words to decribe how angry that makes me. I'll say it again just to be clear -<STRONG> I have spent 100's of hours on tactics that I can no longer use! </STRONG>So a question I have for SOE is: How do you expect people to play a charactor to "Know their class" when spells, traits, and stats are changing in effectiveness by the day?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the other side, I understand the desire to nerf a wizards ability to solo group encounters however, as it has been stated in many posts, "At least give us our dps in epic raid battles!" <--- I'll get to resists in a minute. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM>The Resists-</EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>One thing I have a large problem with is the amount of resists per encounter with all factors considered. After I dinged 50 the first thing I did was start farming for plat to get all spells in my spellbook Adept III or higher. After farming 40+ plat I now posses all Adept III spells and a couple of Master I's for Wizard Subclass. (If anyone has questions on Adept III stats for all wizzy spells 1-50 feel free to message me.) I soon realized that my countless hours in this was a waste as well. When I fight in battles on mobs lvl's 46-50 I will resist up 10 times and fizzle up to 8 times in one group encounter. The thing that burns me is when I resist 5 spells in a row on a mob 2 levels lower than me with level 50 T5 Adept III spells while the mob is debuffed. I've spent tons of plat to get good equipment for lots of power, tons of plat for adept 3's and when I fight I can't even hit the npc to kill it and if I do, I burn tons and tons of power to compensate for resists. unfortunatly, I can't cempensate for retimers when a 15 min retimer spell resists. How does this make me effective in a raid besides being a battery and regening my self from all the resisted attacks?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM>The Bugs-</EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>lol, well here's the long part! I'll cut this one short and just jot a few down that have been in the game since release:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-Unable to loot some corpses under water</DIV> <DIV>-While stunned, if food or drink is consumed. It will disapear and no effect will take place.</DIV> <DIV>-While unconciouse sometimes a -1 hit will occur every 15 seconds untill all life is gone. this happens while and encounter is broken and no dots or procs are in effect.</DIV> <DIV>-Charactors can get stuck in many areas of many zones in the falling position.(requires a GM, evac, or COH to unstick)</DIV> <DIV>-Charactors fall through the world.</DIV> <DIV>-Unable to loot chests on mobs killed above or on lava.</DIV> <DIV>-A ton of graphical errors</DIV> <DIV>-Fizzle on COH?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyways, this covers bug I have encountered over the last two weeks. These bugs have have existed since the release of the game! BETA! cough, BETA!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM>The Customer Service-</EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>Of the entire time I have played, I have submitted over 20 different bug reports, and petitioned over 30 times.</DIV> <DIV>Average responce on petitions is about 24-48 hours unless you petition for a shard missing, but I have waited long enough to absorb a shard before the even responded. I am currently working on a petition reguarding a name issue where a GM directly lied to me in the petition. This petition # has been referenced in many petitions following it and SOE clearly stated that they will do nothing about it and do have intentions of correcting it.</DIV> <DIV>I have also petitioned a bugged quest and received a reply 3 days later telling me that I had no shard to recover. The petition had no reference to any shard issues.</DIV> <DIV>It is clear to me that my $15 a month is going to GREAT use.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><STRONG><EM>Summary-</EM></STRONG></DIV> <DIV>Well, the point of this post is bring up a trend I see with SOE. I pay them $15 a month to make snap decisions that make all my efforts a waste. There is absolutly NO EXCUSE for bugs that have been ingame since release to still exist, especially when it concerns loot. Which happens to be the main reason I play! My Adept III's suck, I can't solo anything worth killing at lvl 50, I am nothing but a fizzling battery and a resisted dps class in raids. If things don't change soon I'll be moving onto WoW, less bugs, more content GM's and it's also cheaper!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>PS: I'd spellcheck but I get a 404 error. :smileymad:</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by Trinity214 on <span class=date_text>06-23-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:08 PM</span>

ScrumplesTheBe
06-24-2005, 06:19 AM
Nice post man.You need to move this to another part of the forum so everyone can see it.

Yoi
06-24-2005, 06:56 AM
I have a 50 wizard like you, all Adept IIIs, and spent much time working on tactics for the instance zones. I know exactly how you feel. These zones were really challenging and fun for me, and if once in a long while a master chest would drop, that made the game a real joy. It made it easier to ignore the raid issues, the bugs. The patch changed all that. I was given a copy of World of Warcraft last Christmas. In all this time I have never opened it because I was having fun with EQ2 and really enjoyed leveling and playing my wizard. Last night, I decided that the game designers at soe weren't really listening, and, judging by their actions, there was no real indication that they ever would. Last night, I loaded up WoW and started a mage.   <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ----------------------------------------------------------- "I'll never $uck Satan's d1ck."  - Eddie Vedder<div></div>

anshar
06-24-2005, 07:18 AM
<P>Not trying to trivialize your frustration, but I can explain one of the bugs...</P> <P> </P> <DIV>'-While unconciouse sometimes a -1 hit will occur every 15 seconds untill all life is gone. this happens while and encounter is broken and no dots or procs are in effect.'</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is something that has always been in eq...it simulates bleeding to death.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

TooFarGo
06-24-2005, 04:44 PM
<div></div><div></div><div></div><b>-Unable to loot chests on mobs killed above or on lava.</b> It's lava... pull them away from it. If you cannot, it's lava. Forget the drops.  I would not like to see lava creatures stop dropping boxes. You can make them leave the lava by hitting them with a spell, and waiting for them to path over to you (I have not explored 100% of Lavastorm, but pretty darn close to it, AFAIK all mobs will leave the lava and come after you if you hit them). I like the fact that lava kills me when I try to swim into it to get loot.  It gives more sense of danger when in LS. I wish all other fire did damage as well, with my resists determining the amount of damage. <b>-While unconciouse sometimes a -1 hit will occur every 15 seconds untill all life is gone. this happens while and encounter is broken and no dots or procs are in effect.</b> I *like* this feature. It's fun.  It's funny! I've jumped down the mines in Zek and had this happen...my healer friend was in TS.  She had a few minutes to come save me.  Did she save me? She was darn close but I died right before she got there. I was screaming at her to save me the whole way. It was challenging and fun.  We laughed a lot.  This doesn't happen much.  This happened in CT as well, we were fighting and got hit pretty hard, so we zoned to FR.  I zoned and passed out.  Fortunately, after a few ticks, she stopped laughing at me and healed me. =) <b>-Charactors can get stuck in many areas of many zones in the falling position.(requires a GM, evac, or COH to unstick)</b> i hate these. I've been stuck several times.  Each time, it took a *long* time for a GM to help me.  I recall no patch notes stating that certain areas have been fixed. Argh! Just my opinion =) <div></div><p><span class="time_text"> </span></p><p>Message Edited by TooFarGone on <span class=date_text>06-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:52 AM</span>

nellerboy20
06-26-2005, 08:11 PM
<DIV>I have lots of problems with one of the bugs, the looting of chests in Lavastorm. Now, not sure if you meant if it's located on lava itself in Lavastorm but for me that didn't matter. I would kill the wormlings right off the docks for writs and the chests dropping on the plain ground, not lava, poofed after attempting to /open them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have however found logging out completely and back in clears the bug for me.</DIV>

Tar~Palantir
06-26-2005, 09:12 PM
I agree with what you said about soloing. Even after the root breaks, i stun it and re-root it again. Then before the 8 second timer finishes on frozen manacles the root is broken.  Yeah, blue con brings me down to 33%.  

Techneman
06-27-2005, 05:41 AM
<P>i hear ya, loud and clear. I agree with most of what you said, it is totally frustrating.  I will definately stick it out, simply because i love the game and its a habbit for me.  To each his own though.  You certainly have good reasoning to quit.  Good luck in whatever you take on next!</P> <P>Tech 50 wiz of befallen</P> <P>aka the Killbot Factory</P>

Lady Uaelr
06-27-2005, 05:54 PM
Sadly enough, I agree with original poster on all counts.

AkashaSh
06-28-2005, 02:23 PM
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#3333cc><FONT size=3><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">well i know what you mean about all the resists and the fizzles i have been woundering if it was just me he he....all though the aoe's that debuff midigation do seem to help i still get resists thou a lot....now as far a roots my <ring of cold> seems to be the best root i have ever had never breaks fast and holds for awhile now the lower lvl chains blew! the bleeding to death is all right i dont have it happen much so does not bother me at all....the falling though the world bugs me a lot in nek forest the bridge ooooo the one on the way to the castle i have fallen though that one two times and died but was able to recover my shard and figured i would work of the debt b4 i would get a unhelpfull gm lol i agree that they are of no help at all!!!! every time i talk to them i am madder than when i started....seems none of them know a thing!!! i am happy with my toon and i am hoping with the revamp life in game will improve <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT> </FONT></FONT></STRONG></DIV>

Ashke
06-28-2005, 09:43 PM
<P>I just started playing EQ 2 after playing World of Warcraft since release.</P> <P>If you think there are less bugs or competant GMs, you are sorely mistaken.</P> <P>Just go to the Official WoW forums and read. Bugs that have been in the game since the beta versions, GMs who reply with answers that don't even pertain to your question or problem, they take several hours to respond too. there are 550 GMs who take care of 450 servers and supposedly 2 million players. you can see where thats going... WoW customer service is horrible.</P>

Fael
06-28-2005, 09:58 PM
I just returned to EQ2 after playing WOW.  I left EQ2 the first time after playing for two weeks, discovering WOW and liking it much better. But I needed a change, so I figured Id try it again.  Nothing like the feeling you get when starting a new game, or a game you havent played for a while in my case. If you arent enjoying the game, or tired of the bugs, try out WOW.  Your EQ2 character will still be here. Mal <div></div>

Aintdeadyet
05-12-2009, 10:46 AM
<p><cite>Faelos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote> If you arent enjoying the game, or tired of the bugs, try out WOW.  Your EQ2 character will still be here. </blockquote><p>Or Lord of the Rings Online..</p>

channel
05-12-2009, 11:11 AM
<p>ARE YOU JOKING? this thread is 4 years old.</p><p>necro post ftl</p>

TheSpin
05-12-2009, 11:12 AM
<p>lol, channel you beat me too it.  4 year old post and nothing is relevant, just let this one die.</p>

Shareana
05-12-2009, 01:31 PM
<p>Locking this one down before more people troll the thread... lol</p><p>Please take a peek at the date at the OP before posting  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>