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Derwille_Oasis
06-22-2005, 04:32 PM
<DIV>I see alot of confusion and misuse of these concepts, just to clear up some of the confusion:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Resists: When your spell is resisted, or you resist a mobs spell (resist message), the thing that comes into effect in this roll is spell avoidance vs. casting skill for the spell. I.e for a wizard casting on a mob, it will roll your Distortion skill, or Subjugation if your using stun/protoflame etc, against the mobs spell avoidance. (Like it does with defense/parry vs weapon skill for melee's). </DIV> <DIV>At a difference of around 50 (10 levels) it becomes practically impossible to cast on, which most of those who have tried to land spells on mobs more than 10 levels higher should testify to. Alot of you probably experienced it aswell if your subjugation skill was a few levels behind, that you got very high resists on stun/proto. </DIV> <DIV>This means none of our debuffs will effect whether the mob resists your spell outright or not, they ONLY effect how hard your spell lands, when it does indeed land. Only damage, not resist rates. Only buffs/items that increase your skill in the line your using, i.e +5 distortion will increase your effective casting level by 1, meaning you can hit mobs 11 levels above you, and your resist rate will change to the same rate you'd have if you were a level higher.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Mitigation: The numbers shown in your profile window determines how much dmg you will take when hit by a spell, or duration of it, if its a mez/stun etc. The way it works is, your mitigation number divided by your level. This means at lvl 50 you will need 5000 mitigation to be 100% immune.</DIV> <DIV>Example: Testdummy01 is a level 50. he has 3000 heat mitigation, then the math is 3000/50=60% mitigation vs heat spells. He sadly only has 1000 poison mitigation, which means 1000/50=20% mitigation vs poison. </DIV> <DIV>Ask any level 50 raid tank, and he'll tell you the same, that when he's buffed to 5000 mitigation he is immune to that type of spells.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This leads to another word being used a bit haphazardly, which is ''immune''. Mobs where you see your spells land, but dont see them do any damage arent immune, they are just mitigating your spell by 100%, since their mitigation is over 5000. </DIV> <DIV>These mobs can, with luck and alot of people using their debuffs, sometimes be brought below 5000, meaning your spells will start to hit, for low damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Hopefully this should clear up some of the terms used, If i've overlooked something please feel free to let me know.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Alsosprach Zarathustra</DIV><p>Message Edited by Derwille_Oasis on <span class=date_text>06-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:37 AM</span>

Tabemo
06-23-2005, 09:13 AM
which mobs have you been able to hit after extensive debuffing? <div></div>

Asterra
06-23-2005, 12:26 PM
Heh, nice rhetorical question.  I think he gets the point. It's very telling when a given epic mob succumbs to debuffs for approximately 0.1 seconds, every single time the spells land.  What does it mean?  It means the mob is hard-coded to be effectively immune to those debuffs.  The only thing that might possibly hit is the first tick of whatever damage components may be part of the debuffs.  Therefore, it is impossible, by design, to get some / most epic mobs' relevant resistances below the useful threshold.  Adding confusion to the issue is other strange but decidedly anti-Wizard phenoma, such as the named robot in Meeting of the Minds (and his adds), which can be affected by only four or five Wizard spells, with the damage of each reduced (where it wasn't already witheringly insignificant), including that of Ball of Flames, which hovers at around 200 damage per nuke.

brow27
06-27-2005, 06:39 PM
This is very good information, thank you! <div></div>

Splatterpunk28
06-28-2005, 04:09 AM
Useful info.  Though I'd hope most people already assumed they couldn't cast on mobs 10+ levels above them and that debuffs ONLY increased dmg.<p>Message Edited by Splatterpunk28 on <span class=date_text>06-27-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:11 PM</span>