Ice Comet (Master I)

[Morderkat]

During a raid tonight our guild looted an ice comet master scroll.  I thought I would post a screenshot of the examined spell so everyone could marvel at it <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> <img src="http://www.2and2.net/Uploads/Images/icecometmaster.jpg"> <div></div>

[TGDu]

<font size="3"><font face="Verdana"><font size="2">So...very...beautiful... </font></font></font><span><font face="Verdana"><span><font size="2">Duff, Clan Lynx2nd 50 Wizard - Steamfont1st 50/50 Provisioner - Steamfont</font></span></font></span> <div></div>

[adamflanagan]

what did it drop from? <div></div>

[BarryT]

<DIV>... 'Commence drewlage'</DIV>

[khelektasare]

Congrats! <span>:smileysurprised:</span> <div></div>

[Ghostbeard]

<span><blockquote><hr>adamflanagan wrote:what did it drop from? <div></div><hr></blockquote>Yah... I'm really curious to know what dropped it. As I sit here trying desperately to keep the big drops of slobber from shorting out my keyboard. </span><div></div>

[Morderkat]

It dropped from one of the named mobs in the CT: Spirits of the Lost zone.  I don't remember the exact name but it was like Thundar the Punisher.  We also got a lv 50 troubadour master in the zone last night and a protoflame master. <div></div>

[Tabemo]

tons of master spells drop in spirits of the lost.  You'd better hurry to farm it before they nerf it.  (I heard they're nerfing the zone on the 25th) <div></div>

[alch]

<DIV>all I have to say as a 50 wizard is.........</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>DAM IM JEALOUS!~=)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>grats guys nice find.....</DIV>

[Rigormortises]

I managed to pick one of these up out of there as well. Its good stuff. <div></div>

[Beghard]

<DIV>OMG WOW. the adept3 does about 3600 at most. That master is  a HUGE upgread.  Nice work!</DIV>

[blynchehaun]

YOU start casting Ice Comet. A Darkpaw Runecaster holds up a sign that says "mommy.....". YOU cast Ice Comet on a Darkpaw Runecaster for 4000 points of Cold Damage. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[brow27]

daaaaaaaaaaaamn!<div></div>

[anshar]

<P>Just thought I would say wow and blink a few times.</P> <P> </P> <P>Anshar</P>

[Varron]

...and that is what being a wizard is all about :smileywink:

[Alexande]

<P>/drool</P> <P>Wicked.</P> <P>Edmund 50 Wizard</P> <P>Disciples of Evil-Crushbone</P>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Heh, don't even have Ice Comet yet, but....[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].  Thats crazy.

[darkmagic0420]

<P>wow...its so beautiful...all i have is adept 3.</P> <P> </P> <P>Kaous</P> <P>50wizz of Atrocity</P>

[SparkyMa]

Real nice.  We're on our third trip to this zone and hopefully we'll see one of these this trip.

[Valdec]

<P>Oh, such a thing of beauty...  {drool}</P> <P>Thing is, I keep reading about raid elemental wiz resists, I'd sure hate for you to see: {cast} <FONT color=#cc0066>Resisted!</FONT>  {cast} <FONT color=#cc0066>Resisted!</FONT> {cast} <FONT color=#339900><boom!></FONT> {cast} <FONT color=#cc0066>Resisted!</FONT></P> <P>It can only do dmg (granted, a helluva lot of it!) when it hits.</P> <P>Enjoy your new toy!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P>

[SilentSam]

Wow.  I didnt think  Master Ice Comet or Devastation was even in the game.  That's awesome...gratz!

[Morderkat]

i've come to terms with most of the raid mobs being immune to ice comet.  it really makes my day when we fight an epic that isnt immune and I can do full damage.  Its nice to be able to kill all the green mobs i see in one hit, most of the stuff in Everfrost  that cons blue at 50 can also be one shotted, except for those warden arctic wyrms.  this makes doing writs even more of a breeze than before lol <div></div>

[AkashaSh]

<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff3399>/drooling i want i want i want lol just go this spell but so far i am happy with it....recast time on it really sucks but does a lot of dmg in master 1 i would love it he he </FONT></STRONG></DIV>

[Khalay]

<P>Dropped for Lost Cause on Runnyeye server last night. Also in the froglock instance of CT.</P> <P> </P> <P>Lameth is now the proud owner of Ice Comet master 1 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[AkashaSh]

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#3333cc size=4><STRONG>wow nice gratz on that!</STRONG> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></FONT></DIV>

[Techneman]

<DIV>better hope they fix our resists in the expansion, otherwise that spell is just as useless as it is now. =/</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[AnimeFalc]

<P>very nice</P>

[evil_drag]

 Gratz that's the best damage spell :smileysurprised: mine best as illusionist make some 600 lol :smileyhappy: gratz :smileywink:

[Beghard]

I wonder...is that the highest dmg spell in game or cany anything other than an HO or some stupid epic reflected attack hit for more, yo an enemy not ones self.........? <div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P>i sure would love to see what the max dmg on this thing with the revamp on int affecting dps would be.</P> <P> </P> <P>i know adp3 maxes at 4700 on test with 202 int.</P> <P>i've read that 251 int it bumps it up to 5200 max.  so I'm guessing master1 ice coment post revamp should max around 6200, expect a nerf of this.</P>

[Beghard]

Why would they nerf this its in-line with the rest of our dps upgreads and the warlocks spell has a chanse to do more tottal dmg over 5 mobs. <div></div>

[Falc618]

For people wanting to know what drops it, I had gotten mine from the queen in the crawlers nest.

[3C HAVOK]

It alos drops in the heroic arena, A guildie looted one 2 nights ago in there. <div></div>

[BadLieutenant]

Now if they would only make it heat damage!!! Guess I'm asking too much to not get resisted by every raid mob and their mother.

[talyus]

I have an erection almost equal to the might of that Master 1. /bows before you i dont raid all the time, im a writ grinder. and great googly moogly does IC make the front of my robe stick out /disapears into Splitpaw *aka* spell heaven for an undetermined amount of time <div></div>

[FionnMacCo]

<DIV>That spell gives me wood and i'm not talking about my staff.</DIV>

[Norlantha]

5 stars for posting this.  very nice

[ksux]

I got Ice Comet Master 1 last night from a raid in Spirits of the Lost. (Thanks AOD <span>:smileyhappy:</span>) I did some experimenting and at 420 INT, it registers a top end of 5778.  At 440 INT, it registers a top end of 5983.  At 480 INT, it also registers a top end of 5983.  So I guess 5983 is the maximum for Ice Comet Master 1.  Of course this doesn't take debuffs into consideration, 8K is not an uncommon number. <img src="http://www.kgb-lan.net/muaddib/images/IceCometMaster1.jpg"> <div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR>I got Ice Comet Master 1 last night from a raid in Spirits of the Lost. (Thanks AOD <SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN>)<BR><BR>I did some experimenting and at 420 INT, it registers a top end of 5778.  At 440 INT, it registers a top end of 5983.  At 480 INT, it also registers a top end of 5983.  So I guess 5983 is the maximum for Ice Comet Master 1.  Of course this doesn't take debuffs into consideration, 8K is not an uncommon number.<BR><BR><IMG src="http://www.kgb-lan.net/muaddib/images/IceCometMaster1.jpg"><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I hate you !  j/k grats.  Good to know the min max for ice comet master 1 at max int.  I'll add it to the list in the wizard guide.

[FuzzBall]

<P>I got my Ice Comet Master 1 in group battle arena in Splitpaw...  The day before DOF release :smileyhappy: (talk about one happy gnome)</P> <P>The highest hit I have gotten off of mine is 6,789 damage but I havent been trying for a record.</P> <P> </P> <P>Terra Nova, Lv 60 Wizard</P> <P>Indomitus - Neriak Server</P>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Sexy.Surging Tempest and Fiery Inferno are also very nice masters.  I'll post shots linked from guild events when I can.<div></div>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

*cry* It dropped for someone on my server in the madness yesterday.  Now all the wizzies on the server are digging DEEP into their pockets. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[ksux]

I picked up Fist of the Tyrant Master 1 yesterday.  It gives 67 STR/INT as opposed to the 69 that Master 2 gives.  The 2 INT loss will easily be recovered with my next armor purchase. <span>:smileywink:  But, the really great part, </span>I had previously chosen Fist of the Tyrant for my lvl54 spell, but after acquiring the Master 1, I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800. It was pretty sweet last night hitting a mob with a 6.5K Ice Comet followed by a 3.5K Ball of Incineration, ~10K of damage in 3.5 seconds. <span>:smileyhappy:</span> <div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR>I picked up Fist of the Tyrant Master 1 yesterday.  It gives 67 STR/INT as opposed to the 69 that Master 2 gives.  The 2 INT loss will easily be recovered with my next armor purchase. <SPAN>:smileywink:  But, the really great part, </SPAN>I had previously chosen Fist of the Tyrant for my lvl54 spell, but after acquiring the Master 1, I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800.<BR><BR>It was pretty sweet last night hitting a mob with a 6.5K Ice Comet followed by a 3.5K Ball of Incineration, ~10K of damage in 3.5 seconds. <SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</P> <P>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</P>

[OneBadAli]

<P>I've had IC M1 for some time now, its a great spell. I just got Forge of Ro Master 1(hits for around 375 as opposed to my adept 3 which hit for around 250), this pet is awesome! At master 1 its a level 60^^. </P> <P>Also got numbing cold master 1 which is 120% slow(as opposed to 105% slow from adept 3), surging tempest master 1 does over 1000 damage per hit. Also recently purchased lapse master 1 but its no upgrade from adept 3, maybe less resists though. I was also fortunate enough to get sunstrike Master 1 from the access quest. </P> <P>Now if i can just get my hands on Fist of the Tyrant, Fiery Inferno, and Incapacitate i will be content!</P>

[ksux]

<span><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ksuxtc wrote:I picked up Fist of the Tyrant Master 1 yesterday.  It gives 67 STR/INT as opposed to the 69 that Master 2 gives.  The 2 INT loss will easily be recovered with my next armor purchase. <span>:smileywink:  But, the really great part, </span>I had previously chosen Fist of the Tyrant for my lvl54 spell, but after acquiring the Master 1, I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800.It was pretty sweet last night hitting a mob with a 6.5K Ice Comet followed by a 3.5K Ball of Incineration, ~10K of damage in 3.5 seconds. <span>:smileyhappy:</span> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</p> <p>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>Hhmm, well since 277x is at most ~1% short of 2800 I think my statement of approximately 2800 is valid.  As far as the 10K in 3.5 seconds...I think you're missing the point that damage is not done (and a ranged encounter is not initiated) until the first spell either hits the mob or is resisted, so the 4 sec cast on the Ice Comet is irrelavent, however the .5 second refresh from the Ice Comet and the 3 second cast for BoI would be part of the calculation.  And the refresh from BoI is also irrelavent because I didn't figure in any spells after the BoI. I appreciate the fact that you read my post and actually care enough about the wizard class to try to "sniff out" any bogus information.  But maybe next time verify your findings before you make claims of misinformation. <span>:smileywink:</span></span><div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> IllusiveThoughts wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR>I picked up Fist of the Tyrant Master 1 yesterday.  It gives 67 STR/INT as opposed to the 69 that Master 2 gives.  The 2 INT loss will easily be recovered with my next armor purchase. <SPAN>:smileywink:  But, the really great part, </SPAN>I had previously chosen Fist of the Tyrant for my lvl54 spell, but after acquiring the Master 1, I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800.<BR><BR>It was pretty sweet last night hitting a mob with a 6.5K Ice Comet followed by a 3.5K Ball of Incineration, ~10K of damage in 3.5 seconds. <SPAN>:smileyhappy:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</P> <P>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Hhmm, well since 277x is at most ~1% short of 2800 I think my statement of approximately 2800 is valid.  As far as the 10K in 3.5 seconds...I think you're missing the point that damage is not done (and a ranged encounter is not initiated) until the first spell either hits the mob or is resisted, so the 4 sec cast on the Ice Comet is irrelavent, however the .5 second refresh from the Ice Comet and the 3 second cast for BoI would be part of the calculation.  And the refresh from BoI is also irrelavent because I didn't figure in any spells after the BoI.<BR><BR>I appreciate the fact that you read my post and actually care enough about the wizard class to try to "sniff out" any bogus information.  But maybe next time verify your findings before you make claims of misinformation. <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Okay I was nice in the first post, i'm not going to be in this one.</P> <P>you said boi registers with a top end of 2800.  it doesn't plain and simple maxes at 2774 so you should of said it registers with a top end of 2774.  You didn't say it was approximately 2800 you said tops out at 2800.</P> <P>You said you did 10K damage in 3.5 seconds, you didn't.  you had to cast ice comet and cast boi.   you spent 8 seconds casting regardless of any other metric your try and measure.  I cant believe your trying to argue that spending 4seconds casting ice comet doesn't count because your not in combat.  If you want to get technical then not casting any spells after ice comet and boi then yes technically you spent 7.5 sec casting.<BR></P>

[Sliverhammer]

Well, just got Ice Comet M1 last night, drunk of my face and raiding Acts of War. Barbarian Wizard lvl60, Int:417 Ice Comet M1: 3163 - 5873 Ball of Incineration A3: 1244 - 2311 <div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sliverhammer wrote:<BR>Well, just got Ice Comet M1 last night, drunk of my face and raiding Acts of War.<BR><BR>Barbarian Wizard lvl60, Int:417<BR><BR>Ice Comet M1: 3163 - 5873<BR>Ball of Incineration A3: 1244 - 2311 <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>dont suppose your going to get drunk again, transfer servers to mistmoore, and give me the spell, all for a hearty /hug ?

[ksux]

<span><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ksuxtc wrote:<span> <blockquote> <hr> IllusiveThoughts wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ksuxtc wrote:I picked up Fist of the Tyrant Master 1 yesterday.  It gives 67 STR/INT as opposed to the 69 that Master 2 gives.  The 2 INT loss will easily be recovered with my next armor purchase. <span>:smileywink:  But, the really great part, </span>I had previously chosen Fist of the Tyrant for my lvl54 spell, but after acquiring the Master 1, I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800.It was pretty sweet last night hitting a mob with a 6.5K Ice Comet followed by a 3.5K Ball of Incineration, ~10K of damage in 3.5 seconds. <span>:smileyhappy:</span> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</p> <p>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</p> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>Hhmm, well since 277x is at most ~1% short of 2800 I think my statement of approximately 2800 is valid.  As far as the 10K in 3.5 seconds...I think you're missing the point that damage is not done (and a ranged encounter is not initiated) until the first spell either hits the mob or is resisted, so the 4 sec cast on the Ice Comet is irrelavent, however the .5 second refresh from the Ice Comet and the 3 second cast for BoI would be part of the calculation.  And the refresh from BoI is also irrelavent because I didn't figure in any spells after the BoI.I appreciate the fact that you read my post and actually care enough about the wizard class to try to "sniff out" any bogus information.  But maybe next time verify your findings before you make claims of misinformation. <span>:smileywink:</span></span> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>Okay I was nice in the first post, i'm not going to be in this one.</p> <p>you said boi registers with a top end of 2800.  it doesn't plain and simple maxes at 2774 so you should of said it registers with a top end of 2774.  You didn't say it was approximately 2800 you said tops out at 2800.</p> <p>You said you did 10K damage in 3.5 seconds, you didn't.  you had to cast ice comet and cast boi.   you spent 8 seconds casting regardless of any other metric your try and measure.  I cant believe your trying to argue that spending 4seconds casting ice comet doesn't count because your not in combat.  If you want to get technical then not casting any spells after ice comet and boi then yes technically you spent 7.5 sec casting.</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>[Removed for Content]...ok listen up.... in  the english language...the tilde ~ means approximately and if you would take the time to read my first post thoroughly you would see it's an unedited post...and it says ~2800 or for the rest of the english reading population (except you obviously) approximately 2800.  As for the DPS calculation...I did my calculation the same way CombatStats does it.  Think about it...if you one-shot a mob with a 5000 hit Ice Comet...does the DPS calculate as 5000 or 5000 divided by 4.5 seconds (1250 DPS)???  It calculates as 5000.  It starts the timer when the mob first receives any damage and ends the timer when the mob is deceased.  In my 10K example the timer starts when Ice Comet actually hits, and ends when BoI actually hits.   I don't understand where you're getting your calculations from, but I'm sure glad you didn't write CombatStats. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[Grimda]

I think you are both right, sort of.  But I really wanted to say gratz on the master!  I'm so [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] jealous.

[Macrr]

Mord, what is your level and int. at 60 with maxed int (420) my IC adept III usualy hits for 4700-5200

[Yocal_Denmark]

<DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Macrros wrote:<BR>Mord, what is your level and int. at 60 with maxed int (420) my IC adept III usualy hits for 4700-5200 <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Heya,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>First, congratz to th OP on the master <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At max int (440) it hits for max 5983 (according to the examine window). Although I've personally had higher hit - my maximum hit is 8311 - so debuffs are the key <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> After CC, i've had very few resists actually - and only met a few immune mobs (in a raiding situation, that is). </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ball of Incineration is also a nigh dmg spell - Lands for over 4200 on a proper debuffed mob. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you're interested i've bumped up a few screenshots of spells on <A href="http://www.yocal.dk/eq2wizard" target=_blank>http://www.yocal.dk/eq2wizard</A> - all with max int... Going to update it in a few days with new master versions of many of the spells. Note, this is only the spells i use at 60.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>// Yoc.<BR></DIV>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT <STRONG><EM><U><FONT color=#cc0000>BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800</FONT></U></EM></STRONG>.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Illusive wrote:<BR>ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</P> <P>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</P> <BR> <HR> </SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Illusive wrote:</P> <P>Okay I was nice in the first post, i'm not going to be in this one.</P> <P><FONT color=#cc0000><STRONG><U>you said boi registers with a top end of 2800</U></STRONG></FONT>. <STRONG><U><FONT color=#cc0000> it doesn't plain and simple maxes at 2774 so you should of said it registers with a top end of 2774.  You didn't say it was approximately 2800 you said tops out at 2800.</FONT></U></STRONG></P> <P>You said you did 10K damage in 3.5 seconds, you didn't.  you had to cast ice comet and cast boi.   you spent 8 seconds casting regardless of any other metric your try and measure.  I cant believe your trying to argue that spending 4seconds casting ice comet doesn't count because your not in combat.  If you want to get technical then not casting any spells after ice comet and boi then yes technically you spent 7.5 sec casting.<BR></P> <BR> <HR> </SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I had to simplify my response to you since reading comprehension > you</DIV><p>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on <span class=date_text>12-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>06:29 PM</span>

[ksux]

<span><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ksuxtc wrote:<span> <blockquote> <blockquote><span> <blockquote> <blockquote> I respec'd and chose Ball of Incineration Master 2.  At ~430 INT <strong><em><u><font color="#cc0000">BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800</font></u></em></strong>. <hr> </blockquote> <p>Illusive wrote:ouch quite a bit of mis information.  While I applaud your recent aquisition of masters, firstly ice comet has a 4 sec cast time .5 refresh, boi has a 3 sec cast time .5 refresh that would have been 10K in 8 seconds.</p> <p>lastly, boi master 2 at max int is 277X which is close to 2800 but not quite there.</p> <hr> <hr> </blockquote></span></blockquote> <p>Illusive wrote:</p> <p>Okay I was nice in the first post, i'm not going to be in this one.</p> <p><font color="#cc0000"><strong><u>you said boi registers with a top end of 2800</u></strong></font>. <strong><u><font color="#cc0000"> it doesn't plain and simple maxes at 2774 so you should of said it registers with a top end of 2774.  You didn't say it was approximately 2800 you said tops out at 2800.</font></u></strong></p> <p>You said you did 10K damage in 3.5 seconds, you didn't.  you had to cast ice comet and cast boi.   you spent 8 seconds casting regardless of any other metric your try and measure.  I cant believe your trying to argue that spending 4seconds casting ice comet doesn't count because your not in combat.  If you want to get technical then not casting any spells after ice comet and boi then yes technically you spent 7.5 sec casting.</p> <hr> <hr> </blockquote></span></blockquote> <div>I had to simplify my response to you since reading comprehension > you</div><p>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on <span class="date_text">12-03-2005</span> <span class="time_text">06:29 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>OK, I can accept that fact that we're not gonna agree on the 10K in 3.5 seconds because you obviously calculate your DPS different than I do.  BUT, your latest statement makes absolutely no sense.  Are you seriously saying that when I say "</span><span><span><span><strong><em><u><font color="#cc0000">BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of ~2800</font></u></em></strong>" it doesn't mean "BoI Master 2 registers with a top end of approximately 2800"?  A Tilde (the little "~" symbol) means "approximately".  Next time I will SPELL IT ALL OUT, but seriously I never expected someone to not know that a ~ means approximately.  That is something I learned in grade school. I suggest you reread your own post in the hopes that maybe you'll realize that you're contradicting yourself. This is the last I'm posting about this...the thread is terribly derailed and thanks for turning a useful thread into something stupid. </span></span></span><div></div>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ksuxtc wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>the thread is terribly derailed and thanks for turning a useful thread into something stupid.<BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>finally you understand danial son.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>cheers!</DIV>

[Beghard]

<span><blockquote><hr>IllusiveThoughts wrote: <blockquote> <hr> ksuxtc wrote:<span></span><span><span><span>the thread is terribly derailed and thanks for turning a useful thread into something stupid.</span></span></span> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote> <div>finally you understand danial son.  </div> <div> </div> <div>cheers!</div><hr></blockquote>hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm did you happen to see the date this thread was posted? this is the longest running discusion on this board i have seen</span><div></div>

[FuzzBall]

Ice Comet never gets old =)

[Beghard]

This was posted probly beffor most of the people in this thread started playing <div></div>

[Beghard]

I think that the discription of the spell stops changing after the int cap but the dmg keeps going up is that right? <div></div>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Can anybody confirm that this spell is dropping a little bit more frequently now?  There have been at least 3 on my server in the last week or so, and the first one was a discovery. o_O<div></div>

[Forebian]

<P>We had one drop Sunday in our guild. </P> <P> </P> <P>I wept.</P>

[OneBadAli]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Traldan Omegafyre wrote:<BR>Can anybody confirm that this spell is dropping a little bit more frequently now?  There have been at least 3 on my server in the last week or so, and the first one was a discovery. o_O<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Try killing the final named in Sanctorium. He definitely drops it.</DIV>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Even after the masta-spell nerf?<div></div>

[SonnyA]

<P>I got this after the master spell nerf. But I'm not a wizard. How much coinage could I possible squeeze out of you big-number addicts? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>10p? 20p? 45p?</P>

[OneBadAli]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SonnyA wrote:<BR> <P>I got this after the master spell nerf. But I'm not a wizard. How much coinage could I possible squeeze out of you big-number addicts? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>10p? 20p? 45p?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have had IC Master 1 for a really long time now, but i recently got another one to drop, im thinking 40-50p pricetag!!!</P> <P> </P>

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> OneBadAlien wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SonnyA wrote:<BR> <P>I got this after the master spell nerf. But I'm not a wizard. How much coinage could I possible squeeze out of you big-number addicts? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>10p? 20p? 45p?</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I have had IC Master 1 for a really long time now, but i recently got another one to drop, im thinking 40-50p pricetag!!!</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P>damned price gougers!

[NightGod473]

Not sure if your server has anything like it, but Guk has the raid channel (it's named "raid") that generally has high-end players in it. Best way to find out how much plat you could get for it would be to head in there on a Friday or Saturday night and start taking bids. <div></div>

[XBr]

<span><blockquote><hr>SonnyA wrote:<p>I got this after the master spell nerf. But I'm not a wizard. How much coinage could I possible squeeze out of you big-number addicts? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p> <p>10p? 20p? 45p?</p> <div></div><hr></blockquote>30-40 pp has been the going rate for spells like Devastation and Ice Comet up until recently. I think there has been some price inflation the last couple of weeks, so you can probably ask for 45pp now. </span><div></div>

[SonnyA]

Thank you all very much for your input. The spell is sold now. And what a great spell it is.

[Zanec]

<P>I just saw Ice comet on permafrost last night on the broker for 119 Plat...I was like wow.  20p even though I dont have is reasonable, but 119p?</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Friend of mine bought hers for 65 plat.A little steep, but I'd sell my soul for IC Master. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Rectus Mighty]

And because I did Mr. Tral.  You got yours for free and we can create more ownage than before. <p>Message Edited by Rectus Mighty on <span class=date_text>12-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:21 AM</span>

[SonnyA]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Rectus Mighty wrote:<BR> And because I did Mr. Tral.  You got yours for free and we can create more ownage than before. <P>Message Edited by Rectus Mighty on <SPAN class=date_text>12-13-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:21 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Two wizzies with IC Master 1 (ICBM). That's just sick.</P> <P>I sold mine for 40p. Good price. Everyone was happy. I don't know if the buyer ever got the 100p he said he would try to resell it for. And people called ME crazy for asking 40p.</P>

[NightGod473]

Two wizards with ICM1 has got to be pretty on raids...<div></div>

[Rectus Mighty]

The sweetest damage is inflicted when you have brig in the group debuffing like a madman.  An Illusionist with his super int buff is uber too.  The numbers on the spell description dont really mean much IMO because it does not take into account artic icecicles or your debuff doll either.  This is where your friend, Mr. Ice Comet Master shines, doing much much more dmg than what is says it does.  I also cast mail of frost if i can or use tartons wheel before so as to put myself lower on the hate list thereby decreasing my chance of getting aggro.  It's all about the debuff baby. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tedia</DIV> <DIV>No Debt officer. Crushbone Server.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Rectus Mighty on <span class=date_text>12-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:31 AM</span>

[Traldan Omegafyre]

Tedia speaks!  *gasp*<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>