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Gobligat
06-02-2005, 09:52 PM
<div></div><div>I have post this MSG EVERYWHERE, BUT THE DEVS GOTTA READ THIS AND REALIZE SOMEDAY, POINT IS, WIZARDS and WARLOCKS are suppose to be the strongest DPS CLASS OUT THERE, but the catch is, Wizards is many stages down the food chain.</div> <div> </div> <div> <div>ON ALL the raid mobs, including the non resistant, and heroic mobs, our wizard dps does not even come close to the amount of dps the warlocks do.</div> <div> </div> <div>Parsing from the recent patches along with other lvl 50's wiz/warlocks, ive seen it all, and if you dont believe me, ask a wizard and a warlock to demonstrate for you.</div> <div> </div> <div>Here is the main thing that makes a warlock so much better.</div> <div> </div> <div>On average, the dps parser I use parse 400-600 DPS for anytype of mobs, while a wizard in the same exact fight will hit 100-200, if i'm really lucky, i would hit about 250-300.</div> <div> </div> <div>Notice the big difference there, NOT ONLY THEY OUTDMG us in DPS, the power usage/utility for casting their spells is a hell lot better than ours. I mean who signed up to be a battery charger for poeple who runs out of mana or evac the group? wizards right now are struggling to stay ontop of the dps classes like rangers and assassins, on average, the scouts are doing just as much dps as us PLUS THEY have 25% more power than us by the end of the fight, while a WARLOCK dumps Half the power bar doing 400-600 DPS, and wizard USING all his power bar to give out a silly 200 DPS? </div> <div> </div> <div>What kind of bull[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] is that? talk about unbalance! Even with upgraded spells, soloing mobs right now goes to warlocks being the best class to do it. I can solo a lvl 50^^ heroic with my wizard, but the way the warlock does it is 200 times better IMO.</div> <div> </div> <div>BTW, i have adept 3 spells for all nukes and dot's, when i was comparing to a warlock with app4 and adept 1's.</div> <div> </div> <div>Finally, stating what others have stated, I havent seen any signs of nerfing warlocks or giving wizards a bit more of an edge, if you want to Deal 100k Dmg to a raid mob compared to a wimpy 20K dmg total to a mob by end of 5min fight, go with the warlock, otherwise when you hit lvl 50, prepare yourself to just sit there and see "RESISTS" and low numbers hitting everything, also make a hotbar to have group buffs and power feeds ready, cuz thats all you will be doing.</div> <div> </div> <div>all stats were tested with COMBATSTATS.com, ive seen it all. out guild has like 5+ lvl 50 warlocks and 3+ wizards lvl 50. Moorgard said "equal", some bull[expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] there when you sign urself up for a DPS class, not a battery charging class.</div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>Gobligator</div> <div>LvL 50 Wizard (gimped)</div> <div>Steamfont</div> <div> </div> <div>p.s FoR ALL YOU LOW LVL WIZARDS THAT DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT DPS, get COMBATSTATS parser, theres alot of Wizards out there that backs my opinion that we are too [Removed for Content] to be helpful on end game mobs.  ITS SO SILLY THAT YOU WAIT 50 LEVELS TO REALIZE YOUR BEST NUKE DOESNT HIT ANY RAID MOBS, WHAT ELSE CAN YOU DO AT LVL 50?</div> <div> </div> <div>WE SIGNED UP TO KILL THINGS, NOT SIT THERE AND WATCH Other CLASSES TO OUTDPS US, give us 400-600 dps and more epic hittable spells, cuz end game sucks so bad right now.....</div> <div> </div> <div>ICE COMET IS A JOKE, WAIT 50 LVLS to get it and REALIZE your END GAME SPELL CANT HIT END GAME MOBS. <font color="#ff9900"><b>Repeatedly posting the same thing will not get you heard, but it could get your account banned. Please do not repost the same message multiple times. - Blackguard</b></font> </div></div><p>Message Edited by Blackguard on <span class=date_text>06-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:34 PM</span>

ecoskii
06-02-2005, 11:58 PM
<DIV>I love my 50 wiz <U>and</U> you are completely correct.  We do too little damage for too much power for our fragility on grp4 mobs.  I don't think wizzies need fixed for solo, grp, and grp*2 encounters ( I can live with the disparity there) but we aren't going to be doing much of this between now and September so my wiz is in semi-retirement.  All I'm focusing on is mana regen quests and nameds so i can be a better battery - what a fate for a mighty wiz.....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As the ultimate vote on this i'm now levelling a pally!!!! sad day <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

SalBlu
06-03-2005, 12:31 AM
<P>Come on.  Do you actually believe that we are THAT gimped?  I dont think so.  Not in the least.  As I see it, we have 2 problems:</P> <P>1) Protoflame not working</P> <P>2) Resists on EPIC raid mobs is a bit too skewed against our favor.</P> <P>That's it.  Is it all that upsetting for those two broken things that we have to see the resurgence of these threads again, and again, and again?  I'm sorry, but if you're not kicking [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] and taking names with your Wizard, then something's wrong.  Warlocks will outdamage us, yes... but i really dont see the HUGE damage issue until I'm in a raid.</P> <P>DPS numbers are not everything, and I can tell you for one that raids every other day with my guild that I'm RARELY a power battery.  We have a nice Coercer and Illusionist that comes with us for that.  We raided on Drayek last night, and I chain nuked the whole time.  Only once did I hit the power transfer button, and that was when the tank's Breeze/Clarity dropped from the long fight.</P> <DIV>I'm really not sure where this unhappiness is coming from regarding our class.  We kick ALOT of butt in what we do.  I know alot of classes who would be EXTREMELY glad to be able to do the things we do, yet over and over again I see these threads pop up saying we are broken and in need of fixing.  I have to remind you at this point that Wizards and Warlocks underwent a HUGE upgrade not a couple of months back.  In this regard, there are plenty of other classes who need to be helped out before we should even be considered for changes.  Scouts and Priests come to mind here especially</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have to say, that as a lvl 50 Wizard with all Adept III Nukes and most Debuffs, I dont back much of what you've said.  All you've pointed at is that you think Wizards should be the end all for damage above any other.  Just because a Warlock can outdamage you doesnt mean squat, and asking the devs to bring the nerf hammer down on them is asking for trouble.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Go back and compare yourself to EVERY class in the game.  List off how many of those classes are more damaging outside of EPIC raids.  I can only name three, and two of those three flip flop with the top hitters all the time.  Warlock is more damaging by just a little, and we flip flop around with Berserkers and Assassins.  Most of the time, however, I'm the highest DPS outside of raids.  I could go even farther and heighten my DPS even more, but in that situation I would be dead because of the aggro drag off of the tank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Making us out to be the most gimped class in the game... I just cant understand it, and dont know how you're coming to that conclusion other than a few DPS parses in EPIC raids.  Raids are not everything.</DIV>

Kamuj
06-03-2005, 12:33 AM
<P>From a person who plays ALOT of MMORPG's and really wanted to like EQ2...</P> <P>This game is surprisingly dead.</P> <P>These forums are surprisingly dead.</P> <P>This class is surprisingly dead.</P> <P> </P> <P>If your having fun, thats awesome. I am sincerely happy for you. </P> <P>There would alot more people happily playing this game if the classes and game mechanics were as well done as the beautiful graphics.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

Aeva
06-03-2005, 12:57 AM
<P>OP, I agree with you, but running around reposting this all over the place will only ensure your thread gets locks.</P> <P>I am personally waiting to see what happens with the giant combat/skill revisions, if they [Removed for Content] that its /complain-mode-on until then its /wait-and-grumble.</P> <P>until then raiding sucks, but at least I can kill my 24 solo writ critters in the time a tank or healer can kill 8 :smileywink:</P> <P> </P>

Beghard
06-03-2005, 01:26 AM
If you are all so made and want something done about it go play a new toon on Test <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>