New thread for soling tips plz..

[Fhursten]

<DIV>Hi wizzie friends.. I am lvl 28 wizzie now.. i have rolled 5 more chars to over lvl 25 and this far my wizzie are my favorite. Still i am not very good at soloing a mage class. I wont blame it on the class i know its all about my tactics<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. And then i was wondering if u guys could share soem ideas with me.. its no problem with my spells cause almost all of my spells are ad1. But only app1 on frozen manacles.. maybe thats the problem.. but i have never enjoyed that spell cause the MOB breaks loose when i nuke it. Will that change with a higher spell lvl like ad1??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Happy Playing <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV>Greaxindula</DIV> <DIV>Gnome</DIV> <DIV>Oggok server</DIV> <DIV>-----------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[TooFarGo]

Absolutely get Frozen Manacles upgraded to the highest level you can afford.  I have Ad3 right now, and If i ever see a decently priced master, I will pick that up as well.  You'll use it for the rest of your Wizzy career. =) <div></div>

[Optifre]

<DIV>I think you would do well to consider making Frozen Manacles adept III quality. I did right away and I'm still using it at level 34. I dont remember what level you get Freeze at but I took Daenor's Lingering Frost as well. Either of these spells can help buy some time when you need to recast your root spell. As you gain levels your frozen manacles will get stronger and last through several nukes.  Sometimes the mob won't even be able to touch me. Make sure you're using your DoT's too because they lower the enemies elemental mitigation and can make all the difference in the world when you are trying to take out a mob quickly. Ooh and make sure you arent fighting other mages. Fight melee classes if you can so that the mobs dont hit you once you've rooted them. I solo'd most of my way through to 34 with very minimal group time and I still love it.</DIV>

[adamflanagan]

deffinately get frozen manacles adept 1 or higher. at your lvl (acually most lvls) it is essential for soloing. also make sure your subjugation skill is maxed, if it isnt your roots will resist a lot and break early. as for tactics i have used one basic principle since i was a mage on the isle of refuge. root, dot/debuff, nuke, nuke, root, nuke, nuke, root etc... if a root breaks early: stun, root and carry on. the 3 dot/debuff i used at your lvl were incinerate, freezing whorl and chilling wind. nukes - you have ball of fire, ice spike, breath of the tyrant and blaze (or lvl 20 training upgrade). also try to throw in HOs, they're mana free damage and take very little extra time. <div></div>

[Fhursten]

<DIV>well thx for that tip.. but when i cast DoT spells on the mob i am not able to root it again with frozen ma cause they brake loose emidiatly.. why???</DIV>

[adamflanagan]

any damage has a chance to break FM but its probably you subjugation skill not being maxed. it can usually take a few ticks of damage and a nuke or two before it breaks <div></div>

[Fhursten]

adamflanagan wrote: <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV>deffinately get frozen manacles adept 1 or higher. at your lvl (acually most lvls) it is essential for soloing. also make sure your subjugation skill is maxed, if it isnt your roots will resist a lot and break early.<BR><BR>as for tactics i have used one basic principle since i was a mage on the isle of refuge. root, dot/debuff, nuke, nuke, root, nuke, nuke, root etc... if a root breaks early: stun, root and carry on. the 3 dot/debuff i used at your lvl were incinerate, freezing whorl and chilling wind. nukes - you have ball of fire, ice spike, breath of the tyrant and blaze (or lvl 20 training upgrade). also try to throw in HOs, they're mana free damage and take very little extra time.<BR>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The only nukes i am using are ,ice spike, fire ball, Freeze and blasing immi(dont remember the name of the whole spell).. i have only used breath of the tyrant once.. cause i thought it sucked big time<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.. cant see any good in it..</DIV>

[TooFarGo]

Get Breath of Tyrant Ad1. Its a great "filler" spell, and a great HO completer.  It also has a fairly decent cast time.  I think it uses minimal power, but i can't remember.  I hated it at first, but I came to think of it as a decent spell in my late 20's. <div></div>

[HairyDustBall]

I am level 26 and can easily solo level 31 reds along the beach in EL.  All my spells are adept 1,  The key is to take advantage of distances and time,  start as far as possible from the mob and cast a ball of fire que your fire dot (cant rember its name)  while you are casting the BOF. As soon as thes DOT goes of cast freeze then frozen manachles. Now run back to the max distance for the BOF again and cast or que it if it isnt ready.  if the frozen manachles hasn't broken you can follow up with Breath of the tyrant or the Ice spell that is like it(dont know its name) then cycle those 2 most likely by the time the root breaks you can kill it while it is running at you.   if FM breaks early recast and move away, always move a distance the extra time you get after the root breaks is well worth it.   if you want to do it nice and slow and very safe leave out the dot and wait for freeze to become available again before casting your second BOF this way if the root breaks you can always freeze reroot. Extra note dont fight on hills a bug that causes rooted Mobs to teleport may hit you if you fight on an incline.  If your mob starts teleporting game over ditch and run.

[La Trog]

<font size="2">Hi Fhursten, my general way of soloing (mostly based on root and stunts, as they're your only protection from non caster mobs) : - a remote debuff from a correct distance - while the beast is running to me, root - another debuff if you have the feel to - then the cycle of death with HO and everything if the mob de-roots, i stunt him (i keep blazing intimidation or freeze recast timers free to that situation), then try a root again and move backward and nuke again hope that helps</font>

[La Trog]

oops forgot: for group mobs of 2 or three, obviously, your only way to survive is to root the more mobs as you can before debuffing and nuking, if not 60% of your spell casting will be interrupted (depending on class of mob) .. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[IllusiveThoughts]

<P>soloing gets so much easier once you get your root upgrade from frozen manticles, aka tether.</P> <P>tether even allows for soloing ^^ blues and ^^ greenies.  Just make sure you dont use dots.</P> <P>at your lvl I used to fire off a ball of fire and root mob once it got in range.  then wait for bof to refresh and que up frozen manticles, rinse and repeat.  its a tad slower but you dont have to worry about being hit. and root wont break if there aren't any dots on the mob.</P> <P> </P> <P>I've soloed lvl 38's at lvl 39 with tether and immo.  takes about 6 min and if you use intromission in the down time on yourself you can end the fight at 100% health and 95% power, if you get bored you can rotate in ball of flames & frozen manticles while waiting for immo to refresh and drop it down to about 4 min.  I dont have any adep3 spells or orange armor, just a ton of int gear thats all green, any wizard my lvl can do it with practice.</P>

[3C HAVOK]

<div></div>At 39 the way i solo is this.   Single mobs     Cast tether on mob. Hit ho starter. Westefend ice spear( Goes to second root as soon as it hits) Ball of flames now depending on which ho is up if its the lighting one this ends my ho if its the ice one then i cast plasmatic pulse on it to compleate the ho, Then frozen manacles then immolation, Once immolation dot is done i cast tether on mob again rince and repeate. I keep Blazing intimidation free in case i get a resist on a root then i stun and root again.   Mobs of 2   Target the closest enemy to me. Begin casting tether on mob. As soon as it startes its cast i then target the second enemy. when he rushes i hit him with manacles, I dot/debuff him then nuke him, I use blazing and frozen manacles to keep him rooted. I stay away from group debuffs and the hos as i dont want tether to break on the first,   I keep an eye on my tether, as soon as it hits the second part of tether i recast it on him. Once the first gy is dead i revert back to single mob strat.   Mobs of 3.    These can be tough. I start out the same way by casting tether on the closest enemy. I then FM the second closest to me ( backing away as much as possible) as the last one gets to me i stun him and the burn him down This one gets no roots at all as you need to save them for crowd control on the other two., as soon as tether is back up i cast it on the one i had fm on. This takes pratice to get down. Controling the 2 roots is hard and there is one that you have to just stun and take damage from. If you are they type who cant stand xp debt done even thry this and i woldnt try it on any mob that is over a blue con to you.  Mobs of 4   Thhe only mob of 4 i have tried were the hill cat prowlers in zek and there were a mob of 4 green single down arrow. i rooted two as strat # 3 says, i then cast immolation on one and while that was running i used hos and nukes to kill the last one. I then targeted the one i had immolation on and finished him off with Westenfelds ice spear. then took the last two that were rooted down, It looked to me that these cats are not high damage and i took them with ease.         Now i know you dont have most of these spells but you do have roots and nukes and can just insert the spells you have in place of the ones i have used. The one thing that you dont have is an immolation spell.    I would reccomend that you get all of your wizzy skills maxed out. Just keep casting and casting and casting till they get maxed for your level. This is big and helpos alot. Also use your mana regen spells. You might not need them much atyour level( i didnt use them much) BUt as your spells get to cost more and power gets limited you will find yourself relying on them alot. You can also look for potions on the broker, there are some that will raise your in and wis, Some that have power regen and some that regen health. These are very helpfull while soloing or if you duo with just a tank.     I want to add that i have no spells at adept 3. All my spells are adept 1 or training upgrade adept 2. So you can do it on a budget <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div><p>Message Edited by 3C HAVOK on <span class=date_text>05-31-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:01 AM</span>

[TheC]

<P>This might be a stupid question but, as of now I'm a level 46 wiz, I have most of my spells @ adept3 but I still have frozen mantacles @ app1, it very rarely gets resisted, dmg is crap obviously and even at master it will still be crap since its a really low level spell.</P> <P>So my question is what does upgrading FM actually do? I use FM all the time when soloing and I've never had a problem with it.</P>

[MilkToa]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheCoZ wrote:<BR> <P>This might be a stupid question but, as of now I'm a level 46 wiz, I have most of my spells @ adept3 but I still have frozen mantacles @ app1, it very rarely gets resisted, dmg is crap obviously and even at master it will still be crap since its a really low level spell.</P> <P>So my question is what does upgrading FM actually do? I use FM all the time when soloing and I've never had a problem with it.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I've seen no empirical evidence that upgrading FM improves it in any way. Some people say it does, some say it doesn't but the evidence offered is anecdotal - because of this ambiquity I've been using an adept 1 version and it still works great for me at level 47.</P> <P> </P>