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Karl_Hungus
05-14-2005, 12:22 AM
<DIV>Right now I have several buffs (not including the buffs that take up concentration)  that I use.  I am curious what other Wizards are using these for.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lvl 18  Accord<BR>Lvl 26  Flametongue<BR>Lvl 35  Concurrence<BR>Lvl 38  Descry<BR>Lvl 40  Hand of the Tyrant (I don’t have this quite yet)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There’s also opportunities to have others from the special abilities however I can’t remember them.  Anyways I have several questions.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Who all do you cast these on?  What classes benefit most from these buffs and how?  At what point to you shelve the lower level ones?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess the only one I really know anything about is Descry, which gives an awesome int/wis buff for my Fury buddy and me.  The other’s I’m not sure if they do anything at all lol.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance for any advise!<BR></DIV>

Tanit
05-14-2005, 01:06 AM
I cast concurrence like spells (singularity) on the tank, frostshield as well, but you'll get it at lvl45. I cast flametongue (fiery grandeur) on all melee's. Hand of the tyrant is a group buff that takes concentration so is always up. I also try to always keep icebound gift up. I cast descry on myself, but only if i think about using it. I dont really need the int buff anyway. <div></div>

Tabemo
05-14-2005, 03:59 AM
<div></div><div></div>singularity and frostshield are almost useless. I cast:dazzling seal hand of the tyrant augmentation sometimes snow-filled steps fiery grandeur (I only cast this when we're raiding a mob that uses fire damage since I'm not usually in a group with a meleer anyways) icebound gift descry on all the casters (it gives wisdom too so I put it on the healer as well) and el'arad's shielding on me if I don't cast snow-filled steps When I'm grouped with another wizard, I usually drop augmentation and cast kazlo's accession <div></div><p>Message Edited by Tabemono on <span class="date_text">05-13-2005</span> <span class="time_text">05:01 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Tabemono on <span class=date_text>05-17-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:58 PM</span>

notyou
05-17-2005, 01:27 AM
<DIV>I was messing around with buffs yesterday and I noticed the two seal buffs (vivid and dazzling) aren't on the same timer, i.e. they can be up at the same time. But it doesn't seem like they stack when I cast both of them. My int, str and mitigations stay the same when I have dazzling seal up and I cast vivid seal on top of it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just thought of it when you mentioned that you use both of those.</DIV>

Varron
05-17-2005, 01:44 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> notyou wrote:<BR> <DIV>I was messing around with buffs yesterday and I noticed the two seal buffs (vivid and dazzling) aren't on the same timer, i.e. they can be up at the same time. But it doesn't seem like they stack when I cast both of them. My int, str and mitigations stay the same when I have dazzling seal up and I cast vivid seal on top of it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just thought of it when you mentioned that you use both of those.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>That's exactly right.  Even though they look like they stack , they don't.</P> <P>it's a waste of a con point. Same goes for Dazzling Seal and Hand of the Tyrant</P> <P>They can both be cast, but do not stack.</P>

Sorano
05-17-2005, 02:43 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Varron wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> notyou wrote:<BR> <DIV>I was messing around with buffs yesterday and I noticed the two seal buffs (vivid and dazzling) aren't on the same timer, i.e. they can be up at the same time. But it doesn't seem like they stack when I cast both of them. My int, str and mitigations stay the same when I have dazzling seal up and I cast vivid seal on top of it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just thought of it when you mentioned that you use both of those.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That's exactly right.  Even though they look like they stack , they don't.</P> <P>it's a waste of a con point. Same goes for Dazzling Seal and Hand of the Tyrant</P> <P>They can both be cast, but do not stack.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Actually Hand of the Tyrant and Dazzling Seal DO stack with each other, partially anyway. If you have them both up you get more str and heat resistance.  HoT is a poor replacement for DS since it actually buffs less int. It's the usually copy paste issue at work again, and until SOE get around to fixing it, I just have both buffs up.<BR>

roarfrost
05-17-2005, 05:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tabemono wrote:<BR> descry on all the casters (it gives wisdom too so I put it on the healer as well)<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Call me a noob, but I thought Descry was for the caster only? I always have it up, but have never tried to cast it on others. Was thinking the description said it was caster-only.<BR>

Isengrim
05-17-2005, 06:00 PM
I cast Descry on everyone, and cast my Proc spells on all melee members.  I also keep frostbound gift up as well as all my other group buffs.  Regards, Izzy <div></div>

Varron
05-18-2005, 02:25 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Sorano wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Varron wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> notyou wrote:<BR> <DIV>I was messing around with buffs yesterday and I noticed the two seal buffs (vivid and dazzling) aren't on the same timer, i.e. they can be up at the same time. But it doesn't seem like they stack when I cast both of them. My int, str and mitigations stay the same when I have dazzling seal up and I cast vivid seal on top of it...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just thought of it when you mentioned that you use both of those.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That's exactly right.  Even though they look like they stack , they don't.</P> <P>it's a waste of a con point. Same goes for Dazzling Seal and Hand of the Tyrant</P> <P>They can both be cast, but do not stack.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Actually Hand of the Tyrant and Dazzling Seal DO stack with each other, partially anyway. If you have them both up you get more str and heat resistance.  HoT is a poor replacement for DS since it actually buffs less int. It's the usually copy paste issue at work again, and until SOE get around to fixing it, I just have both buffs up.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I noticed that last night shortly after i posted. Another thing i noticed was that after i casted both and removed HoT the str and heat buff STAYED....no idea why...must be a bug.

Tabemo
05-18-2005, 04:58 AM
yeah, I just noticed dazzling and vivid don't stack too.  Gift of the Magi doesn't even stack (in case u really want that extra 50 sv) I wish frostshield gave cold resist like fiery grandeur gives heat resists <div></div>