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Lady Uaelr
05-06-2005, 01:01 AM
<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6628" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=24&message.id=6628</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is impressive.</DIV>

Beghard
05-06-2005, 10:59 AM
This is stupid. This is the onethousandth post of the SAME THING form you. And im going to mention that in ever single one if i can even finde them all. STOP SPAMING!

Lady Uaelr
05-06-2005, 08:55 PM
<DIV>I link things I find to allow other players to see it if they have not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many people do not look at other areas of the boards.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And this is a post from a warlock thread......I could say the same thing about you...stop adding to the spam by adding your comments.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Has it ever occured to you that maybe istead of posting to a thread that bothers you - try to find some self control and not post to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By posting to threads that you think are annoying you are just giving them attention and merit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is only a game........and I do not understand the rationale of people getting worked up about things.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IF ANY OF YOU THINK I COMPLAIN TOO MUCH THAT IS TOO BAD.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I AM USED TO BUYING THINGS THAT FUNCTION.  IF YOU BUY A MICROWAVE AND YOU GET IT HOME AND IT DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY - YOU ADDRESS IT BUY TAKING IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND HAVING IT FIXED OR RETURNING IT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I WANT THE PRODUCT THAT I PURCHASED FIXED------THE PRODUCT WAS A WIZARD WITH SPELLS WORK AS INTENDED AND EFFECTIVELY .</DIV><p>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <span class=date_text>05-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:12 AM</span>

Nibiuno
05-06-2005, 09:07 PM
Uh, just a FYI, a level 50 wizard can solo level 50 giants in Sol Eye. I've done it before.  I've killed a group of 3 level 50 giants at once when my group died/went LD. It's called skill.  Toss ring of cold onto the mob, toss a couple dots onto it as well. Nuke like crazy doing as much damage as you can.  8 seconds before Ring of Cold is up, cancel all of your dots you have on the mob. Reason being, youre now going to apply Truss.  Dots will break it fast.  If the mob is not dotted, you can keep it rooted with truss until Ring of Cold refreshes. Have your finger ready to cast paralyze if a miracle occurs and you get resisted twice in a row on truss. Rinse and repeat.  I have great gear, but its still doable by others. Quit being a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] and whining about what a skilled player can do.  The real issues are the resist rates mobs have against wizards main sources of damage, and our pathetic DPS compared to Fighter and Scout classes on these encounters. <div></div>

suroktheslayer5
05-06-2005, 09:10 PM
You only think it's broken cause you don't know how it operates. Surok lv 50 wiz <div></div>

Lady Uaelr
05-06-2005, 10:02 PM
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nibiuno wrote:<BR>Uh, just a FYI, a level 50 wizard can solo level 50 giants in Sol Eye.<BR><BR>I've done it before.  I've killed a group of 3 level 50 giants at once when my group died/went LD.<BR><BR>It's called skill.  Toss ring of cold onto the mob, toss a couple dots onto it as well.<BR><BR>Nuke like crazy doing as much damage as you can.  8 seconds before Ring of Cold is up, cancel all of your dots you have on the mob.<BR><BR>Reason being, youre now going to apply Truss.  Dots will break it fast.  If the mob is not dotted, you can keep it rooted with truss until Ring of Cold refreshes.<BR><BR>Have your finger ready to cast paralyze if a miracle occurs and you get resisted twice in a row on truss.<BR><BR>Rinse and repeat.  I have great gear, but its still doable by others.<BR><BR>Quit being a [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] and whining about what a skilled player can do.  The real issues are the resist rates mobs have against wizards main sources of damage, and our pathetic DPS compared to Fighter and Scout classes on these encounters.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>I never said solo mob is undoable I said double up 50  and Tundra Jack and Icberg.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And I am sure the level 50 doubel could be accomplished the point is the level of the warlock doing it. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I must say this is too much challenge against wizards....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am suprised you play one..........and I am not sure I understand the hostility from you as I do not even know who you are. Please do me a favor and take a couple of weeks off and take lexapro---it helps with your aggressiveness.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>LOL</DIV> <DIV><BR> </DIV>

WaachBack
05-06-2005, 11:18 PM
Thank you for admitding you can solo GROUP mobs, whooo.... im done here.

Kalel
05-07-2005, 02:21 AM
<P>Lady - </P> <P>What Nib means by solo is a Giant by himself. There arent any solo con giants in Sol's Eye. Any lvl 45 + Wizard can solo just as well as a warlock with skill. </P>

Beghard
05-07-2005, 04:32 AM
<P>"What Nib means by solo is a Giant by himself. There arent any solo con giants in Sol's Eye. Any lvl 45 + Wizard can solo just as well as a warlock with skill. "</P> <P>Soluseks eye is a hell hole:smileyindifferent:</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>Yes we wizards seem to have a problem at 50 with not being able to dps in raids. That must suck, we have the hardest hitting attack in the hole game so it must make those lvl 50 wizads feal kinda Fed. Have IC and not being able to land it a 55(4x)^^^ when we need it the very MOST is a shame, its a sham as well.</P> <P>But heres out point. Pretty much everything up untill that point works great. You said in another post that you debuffs arnt landing. I have always thought to my self, "it wroks fine for me but maby it will be diff when i hit 50?" Then i realized, im only 45 but ive been fighitng 52s since i was 42 and all my spells did just fine. Yes even the debuffs and mez. Im already fighing some of the same mobs a 50 would and i usualy rock. And what of a warlock anyway? Yes I have seen a 48 warlock hit for 2000 max on a dd spell. But geuss what? Ive seen immolation land for a tottal of 2500 on lvl 50^^(2x) mobs and im only 45! That 2500 dmg over i think 4 secs and its drawing LESS agro than that DD the warlock is useing! If we had a DD landing for 2500 you think any tank could hold agro in an average group in the mid 40s? No, they could not.</P> <P> </P> <P>PLEASE rethink what you are saying. Go back and have another look at your toon and try harder, upgread your spells at every chanse. If i have a spell thats not at least adept1 i feal horrible using it. ALL ADEPT1S AT THE VERY LEAST. Chek the market every time your in town for spells, but dont pay the 10gp the plat farmers want. Go get yourslef and adept3 immol, BoFl and your main hi lvl debuffs. And buy A3 IC now, you should have to to scribe as soon as you ding 50. Our spells are vastly more important than our gear, so save/spend your plat acordingly.</P> <P> </P> <P>And oh yeah and....</P> <P>PRAISE BE TO RING OF COLD AND TRUSS!</P><p>Message Edited by Beghard on <span class=date_text>05-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:33 PM</span>

TheC
05-09-2005, 02:13 AM
<span><blockquote><hr>Lady Uaelrea wrote:<div></div><div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div>I AM USED TO BUYING THINGS THAT FUNCTION.  IF YOU BUY A MICROWAVE AND YOU GET IT HOME AND IT DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY - YOU ADDRESS IT BUY TAKING IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND HAVING IT FIXED OR RETURNING IT.</div> <div> </div> <div>I WANT THE PRODUCT THAT I PURCHASED FIXED------THE PRODUCT WAS A WIZARD WITH SPELLS WORK AS INTENDED AND EFFECTIVELY .</div><p>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <span class="date_text">05-06-2005</span> <span class="time_text">10:12 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>ROFL, This made my day <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so because we don't do as much damage as warlocks the game is "broken" and "doesn't work"? I truely commend you on this post, hands down dumbest thing I've ever heard. </span><div></div>

Lady Uaelr
05-09-2005, 07:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheCoZ wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lady Uaelrea wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I AM USED TO BUYING THINGS THAT FUNCTION.  IF YOU BUY A MICROWAVE AND YOU GET IT HOME AND IT DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY - YOU ADDRESS IT BUY TAKING IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND HAVING IT FIXED OR RETURNING IT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I WANT THE PRODUCT THAT I PURCHASED FIXED------THE PRODUCT WAS A WIZARD WITH SPELLS WORK AS INTENDED AND EFFECTIVELY .</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <SPAN class=date_text>05-06-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:12 AM</SPAN><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>ROFL, This made my day <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so because we don't do as much damage as warlocks the game is "broken" and "doesn't work"?<BR><BR>I truely commend you on this post, hands down dumbest thing I've ever heard. <BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Not sure I understand were your anger stems from-- probably some major issues from your childhood and I feel sorry for you.  Never had a problem with a warlock outdamaging me-- it is a level 45 warlock outdamaging a level 50 but it is because they are faster at casting and I realize that now. Warlocks can cast more times and faster than a wizard can.</P> <P>My issue are spells like protoflame that do nothing and the casting and recast times of certain spells and spells hitting epic mobs.</P> <P>If the cast and recast times of some spells where decreased, spells actually hit epic mobs (ice comet) and if protoflame worked I would be happy.</P> <P>I think that is fair. None of my posts have ever said wizards are no good because they are unable to outdamage warlocks. So your post is irrelevant and incorrect.</P> <P>You are another rude person with pent up aggression please seek another hobby that does not make you so bitter and rude.</P> <P>God Bless....</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

WAPCE
05-09-2005, 08:14 PM
<a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=23&message.id=11070" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=23&message.id=11070</a>This is impressive.

Lady Uaelr
05-09-2005, 10:02 PM
<DIV>I never said a solo 50 mob is undoable by a lev 50 wizard. I know it can be done as I have done it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It is a double up that I have tried and found it very difficult and uable to do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the main reason I find it difficult is because in a group - correct me if I am wrong- if someone hits the mob the root breaks.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If I see the group low in hp and mana - is it possible to tell them to stop attacking so that I may cast Ring Of Cold in order to give them a chance to recover?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, I never thought of clicking the spell effects off to prevent the dot from breaking the root. Even though the majority of you insult me and attack me I would like to say thanks for helping me be more effective at gameplay.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have never seen so many mean people on a board before. Instead of being nice and helping or trying to see someone's point of view the majority of you insult and are disresepctful.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hope you don't handle things that way in real life because no one will tolerate it. </DIV>

SalBlu
05-09-2005, 10:15 PM
<DIV>The reason people are mean is because you post and post and post some more about supposedly broken Wizard abilities when we are no where near as broken as you make us out to be.  Not only the posts, but the numbers of new threads you've started and linked to in a few forums.  Its all the same skewed informational time and time again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You need a new perspective on your character methinks.  </DIV>

Lady Uaelr
05-09-2005, 10:55 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> SalBluee wrote:<BR> <DIV>The reason people are mean is because you post and post and post some more about supposedly broken Wizard abilities when we are no where near as broken as you make us out to be.  Not only the posts, but the numbers of new threads you've started and linked to in a few forums.  Its all the same skewed informational time and time again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You need a new perspective on your character methinks.  </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nice to know that you are aware and realize that you and so many people here on these boards are mean and that you feel it is justified.</P> <P>Thanks........ Your ancestors must have been the ones leading the witch hunts.</P> <DIV>Anways----since I apparently I need some help, can you please post some strategies on soloing grp mobs, solo mobs, double up mobs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, any strategies with epic mobs would be great also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please assist the wizard everyone loves to hate and insult..:smileysad:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <span class=date_text>05-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:04 PM</span>

IllusiveThoughts
05-09-2005, 11:33 PM
<P>she has a point to some extent.</P> <P> </P> <P>the warlock soloed the mob with only one or two canni spells.  Due to the simple fact that their spells cost less mana this warlock never went oom.</P> <P>the same wizard could still kill the mob albeit cost much more mana and use more time casting canni's, extending the length of the fight.</P>

dustye
05-09-2005, 11:44 PM
Um I can do this too really easily.  Big deal... <div></div>

SalBlu
05-09-2005, 11:53 PM
<DIV>No... see Lady... I was never mean.  Not in the least.  I never hurled an insult, but stated the reason why people are giving you tripe.  They are upset because you made it out like the whole class is broken beyond repair.  Just go back and look at your original posts and you'll see why people are annoyed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now... when you retort at me smart remarks like "Thanks........ Your ancestors must have been the ones leading the witch hunts." I get angry.  I dont debase myself to that level and call you names, so what made it necessary that I be on the receiving end of this?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm going to stick by what I said, and I'll requote the last sentence in the supposed insulting, witch hunting, character debasing post I made earlier:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>"You need a new perspective on your character methinks."</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No sense in being a pessimist about your character when you can just work with what you have at your immediate disposal.</DIV>

Lady Uaelr
05-10-2005, 12:00 AM
<DIV>What do suggest in groups.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If I see the group is doing poorly on a mob...should I tell them to step back inorder to re-root and commence this spell cycle until they recover?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many wipe outs I have noticed with the tank not letting me root when he is down on health.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Do you think it is because many tanks are not aware of wizard capabilities.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Suggestions- Coemments</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The wizard all of you love to insult and hate...:smileysad:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <span class=date_text>05-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:07 PM</span>

SalBlu
05-10-2005, 12:52 AM
<DIV>What I do is toss out a Stun, IE Paralyze, then fire off Ring of Cold.  I have RoC macro'd to say, "The target has been permarooted.  You have 20 seconds to deal death or recup."  I also have it written in GREEN lettering so that people notice it within group chat.  Normally people will step away from the mob at this point and let the root take hold.  This gives plenty of time to heal up, or give me time enough to start bolstering power levels.</DIV>

Raminicus
05-10-2005, 01:55 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lady Uaelrea wrote:<BR> <DIV>I link things I find to allow other players to see it if they have not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many people do not look at other areas of the boards.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And this is a post from a warlock thread......I could say the same thing about you...stop adding to the spam by adding your comments.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Has it ever occured to you that maybe istead of posting to a thread that bothers you - try to find some self control and not post to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By posting to threads that you think are annoying you are just giving them attention and merit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>This is only a game........and I do not understand the rationale of people getting worked up about things</FONT>.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>IF ANY OF YOU THINK I COMPLAIN TOO MUCH THAT IS TOO BAD.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I AM USED TO BUYING THINGS THAT FUNCTION.  IF YOU BUY A MICROWAVE AND YOU GET IT HOME AND IT DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY - YOU ADDRESS IT BUY TAKING IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND HAVING IT FIXED OR RETURNING IT.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I WANT THE PRODUCT THAT I PURCHASED FIXED------THE PRODUCT WAS A WIZARD WITH SPELLS WORK AS INTENDED AND EFFECTIVELY .</FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <SPAN class=date_text>05-06-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:12 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>somebody's got some emotional issues to work through</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Beghard
05-10-2005, 02:46 AM
<DIV>I ususaly just bind the mob if it is on a healer or otherwise killing some then tell them to move. Then the tank gets agro, well, or me because i keep nuking but o well:smileytongue:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Beghard on <span class=date_text>05-09-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:47 PM</span>

Lady Uaelr
05-10-2005, 09:26 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raminicus wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lady Uaelrea wrote:<BR> <DIV>I link things I find to allow other players to see it if they have not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many people do not look at other areas of the boards.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And this is a post from a warlock thread......I could say the same thing about you...stop adding to the spam by adding your comments.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Has it ever occured to you that maybe istead of posting to a thread that bothers you - try to find some self control and not post to it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>By posting to threads that you think are annoying you are just giving them attention and merit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>This is only a game........and I do not understand the rationale of people getting worked up about things</FONT>.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>IF ANY OF YOU THINK I COMPLAIN TOO MUCH THAT IS TOO BAD.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I AM USED TO BUYING THINGS THAT FUNCTION.  IF YOU BUY A MICROWAVE AND YOU GET IT HOME AND IT DOES NOT WORK CORRECTLY - YOU ADDRESS IT BUY TAKING IT BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER AND HAVING IT FIXED OR RETURNING IT.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ff0000>I WANT THE PRODUCT THAT I PURCHASED FIXED------THE PRODUCT WAS A WIZARD WITH SPELLS WORK AS INTENDED AND EFFECTIVELY .</FONT></DIV> <P>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <SPAN class=date_text>05-06-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:12 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>somebody's got some emotional issues to work through</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>So you are saying that all the broken spells and bugs is acceptable?</P> <P>If a product is working correctly you just let it be?</P> <P>It is not about emotional issues----- you just have a different perspective on things. Also, I have never addressed you or insulted you for you to make those comments about me.</P> <P>You are just more proof of how many rude and nasty people play this game. LOL</P> <P>Thanks for the comment and I hope when your mother gets insulted or your wife or your daughter for no reason you feel good about it.</P> <P>Let's hope it is soon.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

SalBlu
05-11-2005, 06:04 PM
<DIV>The product is also working well enough to be effective.  We're not broken at all.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please all stop the flaming.  It is getting us nowhere, except for making each other look like fools.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lady... we're not as bad off as you think.  Just give it a rest.  If you want to ask for tactics help in regards to your spells and mobs, just ask for help in alleviating a situation where you are getting hung up on.  I'll post all the help I can give you on it, and I know others will post help as well.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Posting problem after problem, and just stating how we are broken is not going to help our situation.  Especially when there are those of us out there (me included) who dont think that the Wizard class is broken much at all.  I think that if you're trying to get in touch with the developers in regards to a bug or error in our personal build, just do so by stating the bug in a thread, post the relevant information backing up said claim, add additional screenshots where necessary, and tack them onto one of these threads.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV>IE:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Protoflame:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Problem: DOT spell minions that tick for 5 damage each no matter what mob they are attacking.  Explosive Fire damage as a result of dieing is non existant.  Life length of protoflames too long and does not allow for timely explosion to end DOT.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Insert: =parse data=</DIV> <DIV>Insert: pictures</DIV> <DIV>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The worst thing you can do is start comparing us to other classes, especially the Warlocks.  There's no need to compare our two classes because we are not the same class.  Just because we fall short in damage by a little bit does not mean that we need a damage increase.  It also does not mean that our spells need to be reworked in order to be brought up to par with Warlocks.  We both do essentially the same thing using different methods, and we are both better at certain aspects of play</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So... other than EPIC Raid situations that we get resists on 70% of the time, what other issues or problems do you have?  Please post them, and I'll answer with as much detail as I can.  Just dont continue fueling everyone's flames.  I know if I had a /ignore command to use on the forums I could think of a few people I'd use it on, but before you go adding fuel to a fire just sit back and relax.</DIV>

Sac_jok
05-11-2005, 09:01 PM
<DIV>SalBluee wrote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <DIV>The worst thing you can do is start comparing us to other classes, especially the Warlocks.  There's no need to compare our two classes because we are not the same class.  Just because we fall short in damage by a little bit does not mean that we need a damage increase.  It also does not mean that our spells need to be reworked in order to be brought up to par with Warlocks.  We both do essentially the same thing using different methods, and we are both better at certain aspects of play</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 size=2>This is the best thing I have read in a long time on this forum. I have been trying to state this in the past and it always get overlooked. I am now glad that a LV50 Wizard has said it now people might begin to understand it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff0000 size=2>I have said it before and I'll say it again...Please stop comparing our jobs we are not the same, but we do the same thing ina different way. I would only ask to fix Raid Mobs so Wizards can enjoy that more and reduce their mana cost per cast slightly.</FONT></DIV></DIV>

SalBlu
05-11-2005, 09:58 PM
<DIV>And you know Sac... that's exactly the way i've felt ever since the damage increases went in for Wizards and Warlocks.  I just dont see the point in comparing two different classes.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Yes were are essentially built off of the same base class, Sorceror, but No, we are not the same class to be compared after lvl 20.  At lvl 20, our split in the ranks occurs and we opt to ascend to one or the other side of the two heaviest hitters in the game.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I know it was stated by Moorgard on a couple of occasions that Wizards and Warlocks are supposed to have the highest DPS in the game compared to all other classes.  I wish I had time to look for this quote, because I'm sure i'm not right on in my wording.  The fact remains though that this one thing is what I view as the root of our comparison issues.  Because of this, that quote has been misconstrued to mean that Wizards and Warlocks would be on equal footing.  That right there is the big misconception that is surrounding alot, if not all of these "Wizards are not as strong as Warlocks" threads.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm not going to tell you though that we have as high or higher DPS than Warlocks because we dont.  We've seen this.  Does this mean we are not powerful?  Not at all.  We have the highest burst DPS in the game, and as everything stands now, we are ranked #2 behind Warlocks as being the heaviest hitters.  Are we still holding true to Moorgard's statement about Wizards and Warlocks having the highest DPS?  Absolutely.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have to draw notice at this point that I have specifically NOT said anything about raiding for a reason.  This is where our role changes up as Wizards.  Some may not understand why our role as heavy nuker turns into that of Utilitarian Group Backup, but I want you to step back from this and think about what you are doing for your guild.  What type of service are you specifically giving freely to your comrades to get them through the fight?  Take a look at the survivability of your tanks because you've been there supplementing power to the healers who are mowing through power like nobody's business trying to keep that tank alive.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At the end of the fight, who played a humongous role in keeping the raid going?  Wizards.  Everyone plays a role in these raids, and Wizards are filling a very specific role in power supplementation.  Aside from Clarity/Breeze from Enchanters, Wizards are top of the food chain when it comes to single target power supplementation.  This is one thing that in raids is not easy to leave.  I specifically upgraded my power spells to Adept III JUST to help the people in the raids I join.  And you know what?  People appreciate me for this role.  They thank me for saving their collective butts with my power heals.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What would I improve about us?  One thing.  One single thing, and then i'd say we were complete.  That one thing is a fix to Protoflame.  That's it.  That is the only flaw I see with Wizards right now, and everything else is just fine.  We dont need our power increased.  Our powers are fine as they are.  The only other fix I can think of, isnt even a Wizard fix, but a world change.  That would be a change to the EPIC raid mobs to be more affected by Cold.  If even 50% of the raid mobs were Cold vulnerable it would end all of this "Warlocks rule in Raids" baloney.  All that needs to happen is to ease up on the Cold resists a bit.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm probably going to be labelled as a black sheep or traitor to my fellow Wizards, but I have to tell some of you to get realistic with what you think we should be doing.  We're not going to be the god of damage in this game.  Truthfully, I hope it stays that way.  This pushes us to excell in our class beyond the boundaries of what we think is our limits.  We do very well right now.  Very well indeed, and to keep asking for changes to our class which is fundamentally working as intended is asking for disaster.  We only need fixes to what is broken.  Beyond that is overkill.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>/shrug.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This may all sound so mean to some of you guys... but it has to be said by someone.  I know how to play my Wizard, and at lvl 50 I've seen a ton of content in the game.  I know what we're capable of.  I know what needs to be fixed because I've done extensive testing to everything.  We're fine guys.  I think that attentions should be placed in other areas of the game.</DIV>

Hiei_1
05-16-2005, 10:21 PM
<DIV> <DIV>Question for Lady U's posts/replies.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If your intention for posting is to get problems fixed with your class, then why do your posts always contain.</DIV> <DIV>1. exerpts from other class boards about what 1 person of that class did that you can't do with your toon.</DIV> <DIV>2. comments about how everyone on the board is mean and is against you, followed by</DIV> <DIV>3. some rude comment back at them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You say that you will continue to speak your whatever is on your mind on the forums which makes every word you say on the forums open for criticism/praise by every other eq2 player.  I've posted alot of things that people have liked or hated, and they let you know by their replies.  If 95% of the people have bitter replies to your post, don't you think it could have something to do with what you post?  If that isn't a clear enough hint for you, most of the people actually say "Why is it that you always post this (X) about this (Y)"  It's a pattern of responses for your same pattern of posts.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To save you the time of replying to my post, I will attach a reply in textbook Lady U format</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Section 1: Why is everyone alway so mean to me?</DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV>Hiei_187, I don't know why you are angry and feel you have to take it out on me.  You must have had a bad day at work/home and see me as an easy target.  </DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Section 2:Why you're wrong and i'm right.</DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV>I feel that I must continue posting the same problems continually on multiple threads because that's the only way to get problems addressed.  I don't care that Moorguard said: continually posting on the same topic/thread turning into rants would get threads locked and/or posters banned from the forums.  </DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Section3:The final insult back at you (No, I don't understand why it's hypocritical to say someone is mean and rude for insulting me then turn around and insult them back)</DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV>You have way too much pent up anger.  You should really seek psychiatric help before post anything to me again Make sure to request the strong meds for your advanced condition.</DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>:smiley pwned:</DIV></DIV>

Lady Uaelr
05-21-2005, 02:56 AM
<P>??</P> <P>Thank you but I have already spoken to people that are genuine and willing to give good advice and really help me.</P> <P>My issue was always primarily the epic mobs and broken spell (protoflame).</P> <P>Your post is misdirected and unecessary.</P> <P>The fact of the matter is no one deserves to be insulted or attacked or mocked in any forum for any reason. It is inappropriate, rude, low class and hateful.</P> <P>I have experienced this from the majority of the posters with the exeception of a few. I will not hold any resentment towards any of you since I do not know you and I am sure if saw you in the street I would most likely not even give you the time of day.</P> <P>So No hard feelings The Coz, Beghard, Janaru, Whaabach, Hiei,<A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=165959" target=_blank><SPAN>suroktheslayer5</SPAN></A>,<A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=6482" target=_blank><SPAN>Raminicus</SPAN></A>,<A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=18043" target=_blank><SPAN>Junaru</SPAN></A> , Pkachu</P> <P>Have fun on these boards because I assure you - you would not think twice of responding to someone like you do on these boards out on the street.</P> <P>Because in some places the attitudes you portray on these boards would not be tolerated by anyone.</P> <P></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN></P> <P>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <SPAN class=date_text>05-20-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>04:02 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Lady Uaelrea on <span class=date_text>05-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:02 PM</span>

Har
05-21-2005, 11:24 AM
<P>I could solo these at level 47.  They aren't too hard.</P> <P> </P> <P>Quixote</P>