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xard
05-02-2005, 12:15 PM
in the "examine" spell its write that the spell apply a dot to encounter members and slow their attack speed when the root effect will drop...so where is the dot? i remember there was other stuffs but i dont remember well...maybe are only dreams hehe other little thing...spells like plasmatic pulse and i think his upgrades says at the end of cast : apply a dot about 50 dmg every 4 seconds...but its real with a so less chances...and isnt write... i use gallit frostfire (trait update of blaze ^^) that hit for more dmg! and ice spyke adp3 that is the best quick DD i have LOOOL a lvl 42 who use a lvl 15 spell hauhuauha are these spells broken only for me or for all? Hand of the Tyrant stats bonus...stacks with dazzling seals one? mine do not...only override theme but are lower that dazz ones i dont know if are all broken spells or only broken examine (and then stupid spells like pulse etc) hi all <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope u can understand my poor english <div></div>

adamflanagan
05-02-2005, 12:52 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>xardus wrote:in the "examine" spell its write that the spell apply a dot to encounter members and slow their attack speed when the root effect will drop...so where is the dot? i remember there was other stuffs but i dont remember well...maybe are only dreams hehe <font color="#6633ff">i got RoC yesterday and i deffinately remember seeing a DoT, its not that much but it was deffinately there. as for the speed i didnt notice any difference</font> other little thing...spells like plasmatic pulse and i think his upgrades says at the end of cast : apply a dot about 50 dmg every 4 seconds...but its real with a so less chances...and isnt write... <font color="#6633ff">the DoT from PP isnt always applied, if you want to see it go back to antonica/commonlands and cast it on some MOBs there. i never noticed the DoT until i did this, its quite small but it deffinately gets applied about 1/2 the time</font> i use gallit frostfire (trait update of blaze ^^) that hit for more dmg! and ice spyke adp3 that is the best quick DD i have LOOOL a lvl 42 who use a lvl 15 spell hauhuauha <font color="#6633ff"> </font><font color="#6633ff">i cant believe im still using it either. i dont use it that often, usually just to finish HOs if nothing else is up or if im low on mana, but it has decent damage, low mana cost and low cast/recast time.</font> are these spells broken only for me or for all? <font color="#6633ff">all of us</font> Hand of the Tyrant stats bonus...stacks with dazzling seals one? mine do not...only override theme but are lower that dazz ones <font color="#6633ff"> </font><font color="#6633ff">i havent noticed this, might have to try it out</font><font color="#6633ff"> </font> i dont know if are all broken spells or only broken examine (and then stupid spells like pulse etc) hi all <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i hope u can understand my poor english <div></div><hr></blockquote></span><div></div>

Sorano
05-02-2005, 03:23 PM
ROC definitely has the DOT component. It saved my butt the other day. My whole group was dead and I was the last one standing totally OOP, waiting to die, when the mob suddenly keeled over dead. The DOT from ROC killed it :smileyvery-happy: If you ever evac and you have ROC cast on a mob, you will notice yourself raise your arms after evac has landed, which is when the DOT effect from ROC is cast. It's like when Tether breaks, you reapply it, same things happens with ROC once root breaks. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for Hand of the Tyrant, it does stack with Dazzling Seal, but only partially. The heat resistance stacks, everything else doesn't. Dazzling Seal overwrites everything else. Well at least it did the last time I checked.</DIV>

TheWhiteRaid
05-03-2005, 07:29 AM
The snare effect is broken,  but not the DoT.   It does about 100 per tick at my level.

xard
05-03-2005, 10:10 PM
i tested it....and the only dmg he do are about 60 dmgs when it expires....probably app1 is bugged ill try again when i find the adp1 <div></div>

roarfrost
05-04-2005, 06:02 PM
<DIV>Speaking of Ring Of Cold, has anyone noticed it dropping when there are still 9 seconds or so left on the timer??</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

Vanquishir3zi
05-04-2005, 06:17 PM
Roc does indeed break before the time runs out anywhere between 5 to 9 seconds early and I have no idea why the dot kicks in when the root breaks thats just silly <_> it constantly breaks truss while waiting for roc to refresh most annoying. Although the dot does hit for upto 135 or so at adept 3 lvl 50.

roarfrost
05-04-2005, 07:03 PM
<DIV>Thanks for confirming that it breaks early. I'm almost sure that it hasn't always done this. It seems like its only been since last patch. I will be submititng a /bug on this today. I encourage everyone else to do so also.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

SalBlu
05-04-2005, 07:29 PM
<DIV>Honestly... I've never seen it break more than 5 seconds early.  That still gives me about 20 seconds of hard nuking to kill the mob.  In most situations this is plenty of time.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>BUT... if you time things correctly it shouldnt matter if the RoC breaks.  Give yourself up to about 18 seconds to do your nuking, then cast Truss.  Wait on the DOTs that are ticking on the mob, then once it breaks, cast Paralyze to stun the mob.  This should give enough time to get RoC to pop up and enough time to recast.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm level 50, and I can solo blue ^^ with this method.  I was doing the same thing at 49 without my Ice Comet.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now... to address if it is broken or not.  No... not broken.  It CAN break early, but if you know how to use RoC correctly in conjunction with your other spells you can solo quite a bit.  </DIV>

roarfrost
05-04-2005, 07:42 PM
<DIV>Sal, I usually have no problem keeping a mob rooted by chaining different roots, but a bug is a bug.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last night I paid attention to it, and on almost every cast of ROC, it broke on me with the timer on 9 seconds. I don't recall it doing this when I first got the spell 2-3 weeks ago. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

SalBlu
05-04-2005, 07:53 PM
<P>True true.  I dont know that there is much we can do other than doing a /bug report to it.  And we ALLLL know how well those go lol.  For now, I think your best bet is to adapt to it, and consider it STILL a permanant root as it always has been, but to adjust for the timer difference.</P> <P>I'm sorry if you took me the wrong way btw.  I didnt mean to come off holier or better than thou.  I figured I'd just interject with a way to get around the issue in a manner that might be able to help ya =)</P>

FrostP
05-04-2005, 10:06 PM
<P>Just tried soloing level 40^^ mobs in one of the edventure pack zones I am a level 50 wizard with adept 1 Ring of cold.</P> <P> </P> <P>It has broken on me 15 seconds early twice!!! thats almost half the time its supposed to work for. First time I was nuking second time I just stood and watched the timer on the spell and sure enough it broke early again. I bug reported this.....I was horrified to see the mob 10 levels below me breaking free of my supposedly unbreakable root and killing me in 3 swipes of its sword before I could land a second root and step away.</P>

iceriven2
05-05-2005, 04:36 AM
Have you guys noticed that the icon for RoC disapears early but the mobs tends to stay rooted for a a few secs anyway just an observation