View Full Version : Ice Comet damge ?
Eilza
04-19-2005, 12:35 PM
<DIV>I have the Adept 3 version of Ice Comet and it lists a range of 2992-3657 damage. However sometimes it hits for much less than that. in the 2800 range. I only had a short time so far to try and figure out why but has anyone noticed this ? Perhaps a problem with Descry or Augmentation perhaps ? Or grouping with lower players ? Any thoughts on this would be aprriciated. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>
I think the more likely cause is the elemental mitigation of the mob you are fighting. Even fully debuffed it still has some mitigation left. And if you are unlucky you Ice Comet hits for low damage and then mitigated, then the result damage can be lower than the stated damage of the spell. You can see this very clarely on mobs with high cold mitigation, like nameds in PF and Mengerie. You will experience the same with heat based spells with mobs in Lavastorm. Fnorg lvl 50 wizard, Splitpaw <div></div>
Falc618
04-20-2005, 01:02 AM
It depends on the mobs mitigation and your overall debuffs. I am the only wizzard on my server who has maxed out Ice Comet Adept 3, but I also have Piercing Icicles and Icy Wind, my 2 debuffs in Adept 3 and cast them both every fight.
Eilza
04-20-2005, 02:07 AM
<DIV>Thanks for the responses. They are appriciated.</DIV>
lol sometimes it's at 1900.. most of the time its around 1900-2900.. i dont know where the other 700dmg is going to.. when on the description it mentions deals 3.3k?-3.6k @ adp 3 :smileysad: At least hit for the minimum amount of damage and not go less than that.. geez 45sec recast.. what a waste. :smileymad:
FrostP
04-24-2005, 11:34 PM
<DIV>Mine has hit for 1400-3635 at Adept 3......higher numbers depend largely as people have said on debuff mitigation from dots aswell as other classess adding their debuff mitigation on top of yours.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for it being a waste.......I don't believe there is another nuke in the wizards list that can do more then about 900 damage so don't know where you got that from, even when you get a bad roll its still 400+ damage more then anything else you can cast in one spell. Immolation adept 3 can cause around 1400-1600 but thats not a nuke and relies on nobody else in the group using it when you want to.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sometimes you get low damage sometimes you get extremely good damage just happens that way too many factors in it to point at just one.</DIV><p>Message Edited by FrostPaw on <span class=date_text>04-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:36 PM</span>
Stavenh
04-25-2005, 06:20 PM
<blockquote><hr>FrostPaw wrote: <DIV>Mine has hit for 1400-3635 at Adept 3......higher numbers depend largely as people have said on debuff mitigation from dots aswell as other classess adding their debuff mitigation on top of yours.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for it being a waste.......I don't believe there is another nuke in the wizards list that can do more then about 900 damage so don't know where you got that from, even when you get a bad roll its still 400+ damage more then anything else you can cast in one spell. Immolation adept 3 can cause around 1400-1600 but thats not a nuke and relies on nobody else in the group using it when you want to.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sometimes you get low damage sometimes you get extremely good damage just happens that way too many factors in it to point at just one.</DIV><p>Message Edited by FrostPaw on <span class=date_text>04-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:36 PM</span><hr></blockquote>But I think the point is, when a spell says 3.3-3.6 damage, and you hit for 1400, thats less then half of the minimum damage. Perhaps the mobs have a ward? And what kind of mob? Lets say your using ice comet in Lava or Solusek, and it hits for 1400? That seems kinda sad, that a cold spell does such low damage on a fire creature.I don't see enough info to make a call on this.
Andre
04-26-2005, 03:22 PM
<DIV>"I am the only wizzard on my server who has maxed out Ice Comet Adept 3"...wow<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Pretty considering isn't it?<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is it a big problem that you have an spell adds 30-60 DPS only by 1 cast in 45 sec?</DIV>
Zcenicx
04-26-2005, 08:07 PM
<DIV>You should have all three and use all three.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Icy Wind Ad3</DIV> <DIV>Icy Coil Ad3</DIV> <DIV>Piercing Icicles Ad3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ice Comet max - 3610 damage</DIV>
Sliverhammer
04-27-2005, 01:59 AM
Well, the only A3 I have of those 3 is Ice Comet itself, but my max hit is 3656, ussually around the 3000-3400 mark.My int isn't over 200 yet, but I make sure my buffs are always up
Tabemo
04-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Yes, ice comet is fine and dandy until u try to fight Vox, Zalak, and Oxulius (maybe even kra'thuk) where your ice comet hits for nothing. <div></div>
Sliverhammer
04-27-2005, 02:11 AM
Yes Hibani, I feel your rage, but there's no point discouraging them. Isn't it fun to transfer power though!
Zcenicx
04-27-2005, 05:03 PM
<DIV>Mmm, though I can make a list of mobs resistant to heat *or* cold, I can make another list stating the mobs immune to all noxious, poison *and* disease.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Our main advantage over for example warlocks is the fact that no mob in the entire game resists us totally. If you're immune to cold you're vulnerable to heat, or vice versa. If you're immune to disease, you're also immune to poison.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you don't believe me, try the group x 2 mob in CT, forgot his name, but our warlocks kept getting these nice 'immune' messages and were left to use Ice Flame and Ice Spike.</DIV>
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