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suroktheslayer5

04-05-2005, 11:22 PM

<DIV> There some sort of reality disparity between the forums and my play experience. The forums seem to be chalk full of complaints about how wizards suck, I’ve checked other forums and this one seems to more whinny than the others. My game experience on the other hand is the complete opposite, people are always telling how awesome wizards are and that I do a very good job as a wizzy. I always own the dps pi$sing match and people are constantly bugging me to go on raids. So whats going on here? Why is it there are so many complaints on the forums (I wish there was more useful information on the forums rather than all the temper tantrums). To offer up some help or at least give you my perspective I shall lay out everything I’m doing. Spells that are adept3:Ice comet, Immolation, Iceflame, Ball of Flames, IcyCoil Adept1:Essential Intromission, Protoflame, Vital Flow, Painful Meditation, Scorching Pulse, Icy Wind, Blazing Intimidation, Mail of Frost, Enfeeblement. Piecing Icicles app4 Westfend’s Ice spear 5 concentration buffs:Hand of the Tyrant (app4),Nostahla’s Lucid Barrier, Dazzling seal (adept1), Augmentation (app1), El’Arad’s Shielding. 10-15 buffs I use<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />ecry (self and casters), and on the tank Fiery Grandeur, Frostshield, Singularity all adept1. Icebound gift for grp adept1 And a Manastone. For any ^^ mobs I cast in the following order, Piercing Icicles, Icy Coil, Protoflame. Ice Comet, Immolation, Ice flame, Ball of flames, Westfend’s Ice spear, Ball of Flames, Vital Flow, Manastone, Piercing Icicles, Icy Coil, Immolation, Ice Flame, Ball of flames….lather rinse repeat. Of course throwing the occasional blazing intimidation for hos and casting mail of frost if I get argo. I usually group with a very good tank, Pandoresa, and she is able to hold argo very well, I can always start nuking at the beginning of battle, granted all her taunts are adept 3. with other tanks they can’t seem to hold argo even if I sneeze and therefore I lose a lot of dps. For raid mobs or as I like to call it econo mode (trying to conserve power and stay alive). I do the following. Piecing Icicles, Icy Coil, Protoflame, Ice Comet, Immolation, Vital Flow, Manastone, and then depending who is lowest on power I’ll feed them with Essential Intromission and Rath’Adran’s Fiery Efflux. Then restart the cycle with Piecing Icicles and cast Ice Comet and protoflame on the next cycle after that. If I’m the one low on power I’ll cast Vitalic Harvest on myself adept1. For raid mode you don’t want to go all out on your nukes, the tank is conserving power as well so they won’t be able to hold argo if you nuke too much. I’ve much success with this pattern and was able to kill The Seraph of Stags ^^^ 47 x 2 epic mob with my 2 other of my guild mates, a Templar and a Guardian. Of course I change tactics if there is another wizard in the group or we have good mana regen. I always eat lv 40 high food and lv 50 high drink. If you are not lv 50 my advice in terms of casting is to be always casting something, no casting time is wasted casting time and I always managed to find a pattern to fill that time with something. As I stated before, I have no complaints about the wizard class, in fact I rather not play anything else but a wizzy. Surok lv 50 wiz Crushbone Heritage Officer </DIV>

Aslan's Friend

04-05-2005, 11:43 PM

<DIV>Speaking as a level 21 wizard, I couldn't agree with you more. In one of the other forums another wizard and I got into a discussion. Once you read it you wouldn't think we were talking about the same class of character. I can solo great, they couldn't solo at all. My roots tend to hold fairly well (depending on the mob), theirs hardly ever seem to work. I can solo up to solo yellow mobs and up-arrow blue and double up-arrow green mobs with up to three in a their group, they can only solo grey mobs. You get the picture.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think the key is understanding the class and developing different tactics for different encounters.</DIV>

Onion

04-06-2005, 04:34 AM

I love wizard and would not play anyother class. I love it and have a blast at it. The only issue for me is that DoT class like warlocks DD harder than you before you get to 50, and i do now know about their 50 spell. That makes me mad, but other than that, i love my class and will always love my class.

adamflanagan

04-06-2005, 04:44 AM

i love playing a wizard eventhough there are problems with the class. it nice to see some positive posts instead of the usual complaining. <div></div>

Nitefl

04-06-2005, 01:02 PM

<DIV>All classes have some problems, overall we're pretty good. After our big fix, us sorcerer's are usually on top of the DPS list</DIV>

Stavenh

04-06-2005, 06:45 PM

I love my playing time. I've said it before, and will say it again. My group couldn't do what they do without me. They KNOW I'm the dps and that they would go OOP for taunts and heals before the mob is dead if it weren't for me. Sure, a warlock might be able to have higher DPS, seems the debat is still out on that, but that doesn't mean my DPS sucks. Immolation? I LOVE IT!. When we fight multiple mobs, if one of them is a healer, we target that mob first and I burn it down quick. The best part of being a wizard, is low maintance. I don't have to be heavily buffed by other classes. The concentration buffs of my own and other classes are good for me. Because I have a great tank and healer to work with, I seldom get aggro, so I can nuke, and nuke hard. Now with ring of cold, I can nuke harder, ring of cold, and then nuke even harder. I've got tons of power! Other then enchanters and warlocks, who else has such amazing ability to restore power? No one! Heck, on long fights not only can I nuke hard, but keep the healer going to! I've had fights where not only am I nuking, but transfering power to both the healer and tank. And since my health tends to be around 2,000-2,400 fully buffed, when I need healing I'm not a huge power drain on the cleric. And I only need healing after converting.I really know I make a difference when the tank says, "Seesh i spend all day hitting the dame thing to get on bubble down, and you come up and one nuke, half it's life is gone". The few times I group with others in my guild has started them to see the value of a good DPSer and now they are trying to get me to group with them more. But I'm loyal to my friends.Wizards, it's a good thing.

suroktheslayer5

04-06-2005, 08:33 PM

Great, couldn't have said it better myself. I think people unrate our ablity to feed power or think you must either be feeding power or doing damage but not both. I submit you can do both very effectivly. Giving tanks and healers power while keeping up the dps in a raid makes the wizzy a key part of any raid. You can say, "warlocks will do more dps in the raid" yes but then they will get argo cause if there isn't a wizzy there to pump the tank with power, the tank won't be able to taunt anymore. Kinda of a catch 22 for warlocks, nuke real hard then get argo or hold back and reduce dps. I submit the combination of wizzy power feeding and nuking in a raid increases the raid's over all dps (and keeps everyone alive :smileywink:). If you want to hit the same nuke hotbutton over and over again then I suggest you should go back and play EQ1. We all know how hard it was to find a group back then as a wiz (I sure do :smileymad:). Who got picked instead of wizards, why enchanters of course, why is that, cause they had mana regen! Now in EQ2 we get power regen AND uber nukes! Yes we do have our cake and eat it too! Some look over to our warlock buddy's piece of cake and think they got a bigger slice of dps but fail to notice their slice have no frosting :smileytongue:. If you ask me I dunno why anyone would want to play a warlock other than for thematic reasons. Wizzy's just do more. Want to complain about warlocks doing a bit more dps? Go away:smileytongue:. I rather not play a class that is so one dimensional. Surok lv 50 wiz Crushbone Heritage Officer <div></div>

Kilferf 'U

04-06-2005, 08:56 PM

:smileywink:

DaWodin

04-06-2005, 09:15 PM

<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Seems wizards are just jealous of their cousins. As a 32 wiz my main DD (WIS) does 395-595 and my buddy (25 war) does 406-610 with his adept 1 dark distortion. Wizards are great, and I wouldn't change if i could knowing what I do. I have faith that both sorcerer types will be leapfrogging each other as the level cap is raised.

Stavenh

04-06-2005, 09:47 PM

I think alot of people feel that just because they aren't the top DPS that they don't have good dps. Oh and I have Flametongue master 1, and the proc is around 100 fire damage. Cast that on fast hitting melees, sheesh, there is some extra free damage. Even just 2-3 hits per mob is 200-300 extra damage. Wizard and summoner in the same group? Wow, talk about huge poer pool! I've gotten up to 2800 power at level 40!

IllusiveThoughts

04-06-2005, 10:59 PM

<DIV>I really like the adventure pack spell its power cost and casting time make it very useful, I find myself casting rotating between ice spike and ice flame, for cheap mana efficent dps.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>now If i can only find a adep 3 <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and oh yeah I like playing my wizard. </DIV>Message Edited by IllusiveThoughts on 04-06-2005 12:00 PM

suroktheslayer5

04-07-2005, 07:17 AM

Just find yourself an opal and a lv 30 alchemist and viola! Adept 3 Ice Flame:smileyhappy: Surok lv 50 wiz Crushbone Heritage Officer <div></div>

Lieuen

04-07-2005, 06:40 PM

I love playing my Wiz. Can't think why I would spend any time worrying about warlocks when I so enjoy learning the in's and out's of my class, both solo and grouped.

Lady Uaelr

04-12-2005, 01:02 AM

Where does mail frost adept 1 drop.....anyone know. Also, I used to get all wound up about the class problems......palying a wizard is fun but it would be more fun if they fixed the spells. But yes....for the most part playing a wiz is great fun just try not to steal aggro..=) Just want to say that the original post was the one of the best posts I have ever read and has made me feel better about the class. Thanks..... P.S. Can anyone tell me what protoflame effect looks like and what kind of damage does it do and is it working correctly?