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Pkac
03-28-2005, 06:55 AM
Ok, I have a 34 wiz, 41 Provisioner. I can earn enough money to afford to buy adept 3's by grinding drinks and selling them for a couple of days or so. But, it's dead boring doing it, and i'd rather be out hunting. I've spent the weekend generating enough cash to finally purchase Ball of Flames at Ad3. I plan on doing the same for immolation weekend after next (when i have recovered a bit). Is it worth the time and effort to do this to upgrade anything else in Tier 4 past Adept 1? Thanks

Eleis
03-28-2005, 08:58 AM
<blockquote><hr>Pkachu wrote:Ok, I have a 34 wiz, 41 Provisioner. I can earn enough money to afford to buy adept 3's by grinding drinks and selling them for a couple of days or so. But, it's dead boring doing it, and i'd rather be out hunting. I've spent the weekend generating enough cash to finally purchase Ball of Flames at Ad3. I plan on doing the same for immolation weekend after next (when i have recovered a bit). Is it worth the time and effort to do this to upgrade anything else in Tier 4 past Adept 1? Thanks<hr></blockquote>It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every other spell either gets replaces at T5 or is just not worth the effort to get ad3. (a few are not even worth getting above app1 really...)

ailees
03-28-2005, 12:53 PM
I would say it all depends ! if you have money and/or time, getting your best spells at Adept3 is a good idea. <b>Icy cold</b>, that you can use a lot, <b>freezing wind</b> also (debuff is allways good) but also BOTT or BOfire if you plan on helping lowest level friends. Personally, I did not upgrade them, because I have them at adept1 and it is enough even if I mentor. I prefer keeping all the money I can get for the highest adept3 spells that are going to be SO expensive. <div></div>

Magu
03-28-2005, 01:52 PM
immo, Bofl, Icy  . . in that order <div></div>

Tanit
03-28-2005, 03:44 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Eleison wrote:It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every other spell either gets replaces at T5 or is just not worth the effort to get ad3. (a few are not even worth getting above app1 really...)<hr></blockquote>You couldnt be more wrong. Ball of flames and Immolation are great spells to get and dont get replaced by any T5 spell.</span><div></div>

Zcenicx
03-28-2005, 04:37 PM
<DIV>Ball of Flames, Immolation and Ice Flame are the T4 spells I use consistently.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Icy Coil is L29, ie T3, but also worth the effort.</DIV>

Eleis
03-28-2005, 07:30 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanith_ wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Eleison wrote:<BR><BR><BR>It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every other spell either gets replaces at T5 or is just not worth the effort to get ad3. (a few are not even worth getting above app1 really...)<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>You couldnt be more wrong. Ball of flames and Immolation are great spells to get and dont get replaced by any T5 spell.<BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>You couldn't be more blind. <EM>He asked "Is it worth the time and effort to do this to upgrade <STRONG>anything else</STRONG> in Tier 4 past Adept 1?" </EM>and I replied  <EM>"It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every <STRONG>other</STRONG> spell either gets replaces at T5..."</EM> He already stated that he's getting BoFl and Immo Adept and was asking if OTHER T4spells are worthy of getting adept III. If I didn't know BoFl and Immo are great spells I wouldn't even be posting here, so even logic is on my side.

Tanit
03-28-2005, 07:59 PM
<span><blockquote><hr>Eleison wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Tanith_ wrote:<span> <blockquote> <hr> Eleison wrote:It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every other spell either gets replaces at T5 or is just not worth the effort to get ad3. (a few are not even worth getting above app1 really...) <hr> </blockquote>You couldnt be more wrong. Ball of flames and Immolation are great spells to get and dont get replaced by any T5 spell.</span> <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>You couldn't be more blind. <em>He asked "Is it worth the time and effort to do this to upgrade <strong>anything else</strong> in Tier 4 past Adept 1?" </em>and I replied  <em>"It seems you put in lots of work to get an adept III. So in short, the answer is No. Every <strong>other</strong> spell either gets replaces at T5..."</em> He already stated that he's getting BoFl and Immo Adept and was asking if OTHER T4spells are worthy of getting adept III. If I didn't know BoFl and Immo are great spells I wouldn't even be posting here, so even logic is on my side.<hr></blockquote>Haha, i am very blind indeed. My apologies, after reading it again i see that you where very correct <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

TheC
03-28-2005, 10:40 PM
<P>While we're on the subject I was wondering if Icy Coil get's replaced in T5.  I'm at lv 37 now and jaspers still are kindof pricey and paying for someone to make the inks and adept 3 it can get expensive, and if it gets replaced I don't want to spend the coin.</P> <P>I was amased how much my adept3 boosted ball of flames, at app1 max dmg was 496 @ adept3 max was 750.</P> <P> </P>

Pkac
03-28-2005, 10:48 PM
<P>Thanks for the replies everyone. Looks like Immolation and Ball of Flames are must haves and worth the time and effort to raise the cash.</P> <P> </P> <P>If I get lucky on a harvest/Drop then I'll do a Debuff too. </P> <P> </P>

Luminox19
03-29-2005, 07:01 PM
<P>I basically upgraded all my DDs, but my first 2 were Ball of Flames and Immolation (before it got buffed).  Ice Flame is a great DD now, I upgraded it as soon as I got it.  If money is a issue you may want to upgrade Icy Coil before Immolation as you can always find the Adept 1 pretty easily and depending on your level it may not be a huge upgrade.  You have to remember that the spells get better when you master them, so Icy Coil may be a nice upgrade.  After I upgraded my DDs I started on my debuffs like Icy Wind and Percing Icicles.</P> <P>Luminox Thebulb</P> <P>50 Wizard of Phalanx</P> <P>Crushbone</P>