They need to lower ball of flames' mana cost

[QQ-Fatman]

<DIV>As title. They made ball of flames1/2 cast time (2+6sec vs. 3+12sec), it means double the dps, but double the mana cost as well. <BR>So the damage / time / mana = 100% / 50% / 200% = 100%<BR> <BR>Warlock's level 37 nuke - Nil Distortion, has been made double the recast time (18sec vs. 9sec), but 240% the damage. It means 120% dps with 1/2 mana cost (Not to mention that you can do more dps with other spells if you only need to cast it once every 18 sec.) <BR>The damage / time / mana = 240% / 200% / 50% = 240%<BR> <BR>So, they really need to at least make ball of flames' mana cost 50%. For the two dps mage classes, why do we wizards have to run out of mana fast if we're not doing much more damage than warlocks?</DIV>

[Zcenicx]

<DIV>Nil Distortion is not the equivalent of Ball of Flames, it's comparable to Immolation (Wiz L39, 900-1300 at L39 Ad3) which is 6s cast, 19s recast. Ball of Flames and Ice Spear are inbetween-Immolations spells :smileywink:</DIV>

[Leucippus]

Which class has better power regeneration spells?

[Zcenicx]

<DIV>Neither. We have no power regen spells.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We have the same convertion ratios and our power heals do the same thing at the same level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Power regens are Enchanter-class, not Sorcerer.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Zcenicx on <span class=date_text>02-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:58 PM</span>

[Erow]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zcenicx wrote:<BR> <DIV>Neither. We have no power regen spells.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We have the same convertion ratios and our power heals do the same thing at the same level.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Power regens are Enchanter-class, not Sorcerer.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Zcenicx on <SPAN class=date_text>02-19-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:58 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff>????</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff>I had a lvl 26 Wizard when our guild switched servers...  second time I went with Warlock <STRONG><U>becasue of the Power regen features the class has.....!</U></STRONG>  We get Boon of the Void, Boon of the shadowed and finally Bolter Energy..!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Zcenicx]

<DIV>I was under the impression those were mana heals too, if they're not then ok.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wizards have only direct power feeds, ie the spells we use (Intromission, Surge of Flames) only have an instant effect.</DIV> <DIV>Haven't noticed any increase in mana regen when our warlocks use mana heals tho.</DIV>

[Erow]

<DIV><FONT color=#33ccff>Warlocks get conversion spells too....   (ie Painful Meditation and Invite Void.)  But we also get group buffs that act as clarity Power regen)... you don't see them cast it... it always on.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff>Here this might help: <A href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm" target=_blank>http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm</A>   You can learn alot from that link.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#33ccff></FONT> </DIV>

[Erow]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> QQFatman wrote:<BR> <DIV>As title. They made ball of flames1/2 cast time (2+6sec vs. 3+12sec), it means double the dps, but double the mana cost as well. <BR>So the damage / time / mana = 100% / 50% / 200% = 100%<BR> <BR>Warlock's level 37 nuke - Nil Distortion, has been made double the recast time (18sec vs. 9sec), but 240% the damage. It means 120% dps with 1/2 mana cost (Not to mention that you can do more dps with other spells if you only need to cast it once every 18 sec.) <BR>The damage / time / mana = 240% / 200% / 50% = 240%<BR> <BR>So, they really need to at least make ball of flames' mana cost 50%. For the two dps mage classes, why do we wizards have to run out of mana fast if we're not doing much more damage than warlocks?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff>Cannot compair apple to oranges.....  Wizards get greater Nukes later on... Warlock have to hang on to Nil Distortion all the way to lvl 50.  We are NOT the same class..!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[DeathKnight]

Never realized Warlocks had so many spells dealing with power regen/buff...interesting.

[Utar]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff>Cannot compair apple to oranges.....  Wizards get greater Nukes later on... Warlock have to hang on to Nil Distortion all the way to lvl 50.  We are NOT the same class..!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Wizards also have to hang on to Ball of Flames all the way to lvl 50.  The only greater Nuke we get is Ice Comet which is a 45 second recast.  Ball of Flames is our Main nuke and over time does more dmg than any other spell we have.<BR>

[QQ-Fatman]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Utar wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff>Cannot compair apple to oranges.....  Wizards get greater Nukes later on... Warlock have to hang on to Nil Distortion all the way to lvl 50.  We are NOT the same class..!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#3399ff></FONT> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Wizards also have to hang on to Ball of Flames all the way to lvl 50.  The only greater Nuke we get is Ice Comet which is a 45 second recast.  Ball of Flames is our Main nuke and over time does more dmg than any other spell we have.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The problem with ball of flames is its mana cost. Nil distortion = 3 ball of flames (180*3=540 mana cost.) If you use ball of flames as your main nuke, you'll run out of mana very fast. But if you dont, then you wont have enough dps...</DIV>

[Siltae]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DeathKnight99 wrote:<BR>Never realized Warlocks had so many spells dealing with power regen/buff...interesting.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Seems alot of people simply don't understand/know what warlocks are capable of....I know most of those I group with don't.