Wizard adept III spells

[Jen]

<DIV>I mined both a coral and a silver cluster. Can anyone recommend what spells I should i make an adept III for?</DIV>

[RayneWaeter]

Depends on what wiz level you are now. I put my money into BOTT and Blaze given I like doing damage.

[killzo]

<DIV>I think silver and coral are for tier 2 spells so that would be 10-19.   If thats the case go for Blaze, Icy whirl, Freeze and painful meditation.</DIV>

[Koranu]

The previous people are thinkin very short term.im a level 28 wizard and i would upgrade these two spells.1. Frozen Manacles....at adept 3 this spell is incredible...it has saved me and my group insane number of time and makes soloing a breeze. It is also a nice level 19 spell which is the highest spell that can be upgraded with those components.2. Freezing Whirl....though only a lev 13 spell i still have yet to get an upgrade for this spell....and again thats me at level 28....so adept 3 wont go to waste by any means.Do not upgrade any of your current DD's such as blaze or ice spike because they get eclipsed very quikly by Ball of Fire Adept 1 (300-500 dam nuke) slow oneBreath fo Tyrant Adept 1 (100-200 dam nuke) speedy one.

[RayneWaeter]

given what they harvested they cant make those Adept level 3 spells....BOF and BOTT i mean.<p>Message Edited by RayneWaeter on <span class=date_text>12-10-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:08 PM</span>

[Deathwi]

i highly recommend Painful Meditation Adept III - helps a lot in group situations since we tend to run out of power real quick.

[chaosang]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> <DIV>1. Frozen Manacles....at adept 3 this spell is incredible...it has saved me and my group insane number of time and makes soloing a breeze. It is also a nice level 19 spell which is the highest spell that can be upgraded with those components.<BR><BR>2. Freezing Whirl....though only a lev 13 spell i still have yet to get an upgrade for this spell....and again thats me at level 28....so adept 3 wont go to waste by any means.</DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>yeah, 2 very good choices!!! specially freezing whirl doesnt get an upgrade till 29 ( icy coal, found an adeptI of that hehe, looking forward to 29 since i couldnt find a whirl yet better then appIII) and is dealing real nice dmg by itself, also the debufff factor at adeptIII will increase ur nukes A LOT. when ya can only make one id take this, as second manacles, and as third choice painful medi wich you will use still at 40 together with sume other health mana spells.</DIV>

[Ishma]

<DIV>I have upgraded 2 spells to Adept III. </DIV> <DIV>One of them is Summon Shadows, a great way to go back and get shards. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[NecroR]

<DIV>las night i just upgraded my ball of fire, and breath of the tryant to adept 3. the other one im going to do is icy coil at 29, an upgrade to freezing whorl i believe</DIV>

[Zanec]

<DIV>Well I am level 21 wizard and I have upgraded frozen manacles, freeze, blaze, summon shadows, painful meditation, freezing whirl all to adept 3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also Breath of tyrant, and have Ball of fire adept 3 in bank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My impressions of freezing whirl is not worth it.  I dont see myself doing more damage with my nukes debuff does no seem to be any better, and damage wise is not that great...a little bit better but nothing spectacular.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Frozen Manacles, Blaze and Painful Meditation are IMO the best spells with Freeze for adpet 3.  Frozen Manacles probably #1 if you solo a lot.  Painful meditaiton another must...and Blaze I think is well worth it.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[killzo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Zanec wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well I am level 21 wizard and I have upgraded frozen manacles, freeze, blaze, summon shadows, painful meditation, freezing whirl all to adept 3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also Breath of tyrant, and have Ball of fire adept 3 in bank.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My impressions of freezing whirl is not worth it.  I dont see myself doing more damage with my nukes debuff does no seem to be any better, and damage wise is not that great...a little bit better but nothing spectacular.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Frozen Manacles, Blaze and Painful Meditation are IMO the best spells with Freeze for adpet 3.  Frozen Manacles probably #1 if you solo a lot.  Painful meditaiton another must...and Blaze I think is well worth it.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Just wait <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Almost every 25+ mob will partially resist fire based spells.  I rarely cast a BoF without using an elemental debuff first.  Not only will you get less full resists, but you will hit for closer to max damage.<BR>

[Qq]

<DIV>Im lvl 22</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Got Adept 3 Blaze last night</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Went to Oakmyst to try it out before I went to bed.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Through it at a bear without debuffing.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Did right around 140 several times</DIV>

[Layz]

<DIV> <DIV>Ball of Fire in my opinion. As a 26 wizard currently, there is nothing like opening a fight with ball of fire. </DIV> <DIV>Then I would reccomend upgrading a root such as Frozen Mancles. </DIV> <DIV>Finally, I would go with Freezing Whorl or BoTT</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There is nothing like rooting, debuffing/dotting, and nuking so its at least below half of its life or even dead before it reaches you. </DIV></DIV>

[Culda]

<DIV>Where are you people getting this money?  god it pisses me off to see peeps 10 lvls lower then me getting spells I couldnt dream of affording!  I have made about 20 gld during my 30 levels in EQ all together and you people seem to have endless coin.  I know it can't be from mining 'cause I have yet to see any rare drop in any tier and my mining is at 162...."25 wiz LFG with all adept 3 spells"  *&^%$, i am still using a few app 3 spells!!!!</DIV>

[FordPrefect]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Culdahl wrote:<BR> <DIV>Where are you people getting this money?  god it pisses me off to see peeps 10 lvls lower then me getting spells I couldnt dream of affording!  I have made about 20 gld during my 30 levels in EQ all together and you people seem to have endless coin.  I know it can't be from mining 'cause I have yet to see any rare drop in any tier and my mining is at 162...."25 wiz LFG with all adept 3 spells"  *&^%$, i am still using a few app 3 spells!!!!</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I can't speak for the other posters but I have 4 adept3 spells 10-19 (blaze, frozen manacles and 2 others I can't recall ATM) and I crafted them all myself from coral and silver that I either mined myself or found cheap at auction. I'm with you; I can;t afford the 6-10 gp that I've seen adept3's go for on my server.</P> <P>Rasdauer 20 Wizard 20 Alchemist</P> <P>Everfrost server</P>

[isthisana]

I upgraded Painful Meditation yesterday and am very very happy with it. At Adept 3 (and level 21) it gives back 105 power and takes 152 health. Which in reality means you can cast 3 more nukes in a tight fight. From my testing it seemed like the app3 version gives about 66 power. When grouping this little bit does make a real difference.Saerin 21 Wiz of Unrest

[Bobbylve]

<DIV>I would do breath of tyrant becuase I am level 22 and the blaze spell adept one is going green which means if its adept three it will be in orange but after4 levels its usless. you should make a spell adept three that would be orange for wizards at level 24 and higher. that way you can get nice value of the spell when you sell it and the who eve buys it will know you did the smart move. </DIV>

[Qq]

<DIV>I know its silver and coral for adept 3 from lvl 10-19.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What is the rare to make adept 3 spells from level 20-30?</DIV>

[Bobbylve]

<DIV>that I dont know i am level 22 now in game play but in scholar I am level 10 so i still havent gone that far yet into it.</DIV>

[Asidious]

<DIV> <DIV><STRONG>I posted this in another thread but it seems to apply here quite nicely.</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This is the order i upgraded my adept 3 spells at tier 2:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1)<STRONG>painful meditation</STRONG> (you will not be dissapointed in this spell in either groups or solo at adept 3... i use it constantly and I am NEVER out of power... even if i burn all my power I still have a huge pool of hp to convert for a great ratio (havent tested but its nearly 1:1))</DIV> <DIV>2)<STRONG>freeze</STRONG> (I use this spell once or twice every fight... DD is great but the stun can be a huge help both solo (ie. buy time to land a root) or group)</DIV> <DIV>3)<STRONG>blaze</STRONG> (max hit from blaze ive seen at adept 3 is 180ish... but i regularly hit for about 125 dmg)</DIV> <DIV>4)<STRONG>freezing whorl </STRONG>(i start all my fights with this spell and havent been dissapointed)</DIV> <DIV>5)<STRONG>summon shadows </STRONG>(i could invis past con red mobs with up arrows in ruins of varsoon at lvl 22... so ya it rocks, especially since next upgrade is all the way at lvl 31 called Distorted Visions)</DIV> <DIV>6)<STRONG>freezing manacles </STRONG>(i may have upgraded this earlier but i dont do a whole lot of soloing... still was worth an upgrade if you use root since next upgrade is at lvl 33, NOTE : lvl 33 Tether breaks instantly on dmg making this spell even more important)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyway, I eventually got all my tier 1 adept 3 spells.  I have most of the tier 2 ones.  My next upgrade will definately be Ball of Fire adept 3.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Asidious</DIV></DIV>

[Bobbylve]

<DIV>Not for nothing has anyone figured out how to obtain the master spells verses the adept 3?</DIV>

[Kraf]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Qque wrote:<BR> <DIV>I know its silver and coral for adept 3 from lvl 10-19.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What is the rare to make adept 3 spells from level 20-30?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Jasper/Palladium</DIV>

[Kraf]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bobbylve wrote:<BR> <DIV>Not for nothing has anyone figured out how to obtain the master spells verses the adept 3?</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Extremely rare drop.

[Feezalsn]

<DIV>I used my hard earned coral to make myself Frozen Manacles Adept III - and honestly, I couldn't be more dissapointed.  I was hoping that going from App 3 to Adept 3 would have a big difference on how easily the root is broken... well, I notice absolutely no difference.  As a matter of fact, since upgrading the spell, I notice no difference in the spell what-so-ever.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone else noticed any differences after upgrading this spell? (I haven't checked to see if it does more DD.... ).</DIV>